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Re: Our Defense.

Postby twosips » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:01 pm

Haha - how was that ever an admission? You still blamed him! Brilliant.
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Re: Our Defense.

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:02 pm

Whilst we're (rightly) criticising the defence, it's worth remembering that, at the other end, Aguero was clean through in the box & could have picked out Dzeko, but chose to shoot from a stupid angle. At 3-0, the game would have been over. If we're going to play an attacking game, the forwards have to keep focused as well as the defence & that mistake is every bit as bad as those made by Micah & Co.
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Re: Our Defense.

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:02 pm

twosips wrote:Haha - how was that ever an admission? You still blamed him! Brilliant.


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Re: Our Defense.

Postby twosips » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:04 pm

No, can't say I have. You sound fun to work with.
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Re: Our Defense.

Postby sandman » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:04 pm

guv111 wrote:
sandman wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Whats wrong with it?


The S;

You have used the Anglo-French spelling for defense, as opposed to defence which is used in British English, however if you has kept the S in the derivative 'defensive' then you would be correct in either Anglo-French or British English.

Am I right, what do I win, wanker of the week badge?


I hate seeing American-English spellings too (defense, offense, etc), but with City fans hailing from all over the world it's something I'm (grudgingly) learning to live with.


It doesnt bother me too much on a forum, I probably make more errors than most, however when people use the American pronounciation (DE-fence) when talking about footy in the pub then I have a kicking screaming tantrum like a child in a supermarket.
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Re: Our Defense.

Postby Renato_CTID » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:05 pm

My own opinion is Barry and Yaya have much more responsability than our defense! Nigel when are you ready?
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Re: Our Defense.

Postby Chinners » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:06 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
twosips wrote:I've absolutely no idea what game you were watching. The ball deflected from about 8 yards out, sending Hart the wrong way. IT was about five yards away from him. He didn't get close to touching either.



Actually Ive just seen a slow motion and he wasnt near it at all......It would seem I was wrong Dammit.

Fucking Lescott...where was he when this goal went in ????


PMSL ... I just knew the Lescott comment was coming after reading the first bit ... he could have been subbed and you'd still find a way to have a go, mind, I was the same with Crocky last season .... even when he was on loan at Blackburn
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Re: Our Defense.

Postby Biamp » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:08 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:When Hughes was in charge, all you lot slated him every time someone made an individual mistake at the back in a side which tried to attack. Bob improved it by concentrating on defence, getting the whole team behind the ball & half the time boring the shit out of us. Now he's been trying to attack, we've suffered a bit defensively. It may be the price we have to pay to go up a level.

We can't expect to be instantly brilliant at both ends.


Great post. Totally agree, even though De Jong missing is another factor.
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Re: Our Defense.

Postby bluej » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:09 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:Whilst we're (rightly) criticising the defence, it's worth remembering that, at the other end, Aguero was clean through in the box & could have picked out Dzeko, but chose to shoot from a stupid angle. At 3-0, the game would have been over. If we're going to play an attacking game, the forwards have to keep focused as well as the defence & that mistake is every bit as bad as those made by Micah & Co.


Great shout, both Dzeko and Silva were screaming for the ball there, as was my fantasy football team.
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Re: Our Defense.

Postby sandman » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:09 pm

Chinners wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
twosips wrote:I've absolutely no idea what game you were watching. The ball deflected from about 8 yards out, sending Hart the wrong way. IT was about five yards away from him. He didn't get close to touching either.



Actually Ive just seen a slow motion and he wasnt near it at all......It would seem I was wrong Dammit.

Fucking Lescott...where was he when this goal went in ????


PMSL ... I just knew the Lescott comment was coming after reading the first bit ... he could have been subbed and you'd still find a way to have a go, mind, I was the same with Crocky last season .... even when he was on loan at Blackburn


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Re: Our Defense.

Postby Dubaimancityfan » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:13 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:Whilst we're (rightly) criticising the defence, it's worth remembering that, at the other end, Aguero was clean through in the box & could have picked out Dzeko, but chose to shoot from a stupid angle. At 3-0, the game would have been over. If we're going to play an attacking game, the forwards have to keep focused as well as the defence & that mistake is every bit as bad as those made by Micah & Co.


You have a point there Ted. We will always concede goals but we should score more than the other team and we should have scored at leat 4 today especially as we are now more of an attacking team with all the talent we have.
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Re: Our Defense.

Postby ayrshireblue » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:13 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:<null>


The one we use is "Oh oh! Look what WE'VE done!"
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Re: Our Defense.

Postby guv111 » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:14 pm

sandman wrote:
guv111 wrote:
sandman wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Whats wrong with it?


The S;

You have used the Anglo-French spelling for defense, as opposed to defence which is used in British English, however if you has kept the S in the derivative 'defensive' then you would be correct in either Anglo-French or British English.

Am I right, what do I win, wanker of the week badge?


I hate seeing American-English spellings too (defense, offense, etc), but with City fans hailing from all over the world it's something I'm (grudgingly) learning to live with.


It doesnt bother me too much on a forum, I probably make more errors than most, however when people use the American pronounciation (DE-fence) when talking about footy in the pub then I have a kicking screaming tantrum like a child in a supermarket.


Hehe!

The film Falling Down has a lot to answer for. I reckon that's buggered up a whole generation who spell it defenSe out of pure ignorance. I'm also fighting a bloody American spell checker every time I use this computer, as it insists on underlining words like travelling, organise, fuelled, manoeuvre, colour, flavour, etc, etc. My guess is that a lot of people's spelling has been fucked up big time because of errant spell checkers (I'd change it if I knew how).
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Re: Our Defense.

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:18 pm

To think I excelled in English Language and Literature when I was at school.

All the booze...women....mixing with Yanks who refuse to spell properly on emails has fucked it up good and proper...I cannot even fix my spelling with spell check anymore.

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Re: Our Defense.

Postby sandman » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:20 pm

guv111 wrote:
sandman wrote:
guv111 wrote:
sandman wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Whats wrong with it?


The S;

You have used the Anglo-French spelling for defense, as opposed to defence which is used in British English, however if you has kept the S in the derivative 'defensive' then you would be correct in either Anglo-French or British English.

Am I right, what do I win, wanker of the week badge?


I hate seeing American-English spellings too (defense, offense, etc), but with City fans hailing from all over the world it's something I'm (grudgingly) learning to live with.


It doesnt bother me too much on a forum, I probably make more errors than most, however when people use the American pronounciation (DE-fence) when talking about footy in the pub then I have a kicking screaming tantrum like a child in a supermarket.


Hehe!

The film Falling Down has a lot to answer for. I reckon that's buggered up a whole generation who spell it defenSe out of pure ignorance. I'm also fighting a bloody American spell checker every time I use this computer, as it insists on underlining words like travelling, organise, fuelled, manoeuvre, colour, flavour, etc, etc. My guess is that a lot of people's spelling has been fucked up big time because of errant spell checkers (I'd change it if I knew how).


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Re: Our Defense.

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:31 pm

The problem was the goalkeeper because the defence didn't stop the shots, which in turn was down to the midfield because they allowed them to get through, which in turn was the striker's fault because they should've been putting it into the oppo's net.

Simple this blame shit, isn't it.

For me though, we lost our way in midfield and they forced us back and over-ran us. Yaya and Barry aren't the option usually as they are both big guy's with limited speed who will run out of puff too early, especially after playing midweek. I can sort of understand why he brought Zab's on at the time but for the life of me cannot understand why he brought Big Dave off. If he wanted to cover the midfield, add to it by taking a striker off and affording us more flexibility both forward and rear, not just cover.

Sorry for going off on a tangent but I'm beginning to think that Mancini has a pre-set plan for rotating the players as I fail to understand where these decisions coe from.
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Re: Our Defense.

Postby david yearsley » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:47 pm

Makes it imperative to get Hargreaves and Nige fit as we will really need that DM cover soon as Yaya and Barry look clapped out already
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Re: Our Defense.

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:54 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:The problem was the goalkeeper because the defence didn't stop the shots, which in turn was down to the midfield because they allowed them to get through, which in turn was the striker's fault because they should've been putting it into the oppo's net.

Simple this blame shit, isn't it.

For me though, we lost our way in midfield and they forced us back and over-ran us. Yaya and Barry aren't the option usually as they are both big guy's with limited speed who will run out of puff too early, especially after playing midweek. I can sort of understand why he brought Zab's on at the time but for the life of me cannot understand why he brought Big Dave off. If he wanted to cover the midfield, add to it by taking a striker off and affording us more flexibility both forward and rear, not just cover.

Sorry for going off on a tangent but I'm beginning to think that Mancini has a pre-set plan for rotating the players as I fail to understand where these decisions coe from.


I recon they planned to only play some players for part of the game. We have to take care of these blokes as without both Nasri & Silva, we don't attack with the same quality. One of them should always be on the pitch though. Would have been better to play half a game each imo but Bob maybe thought the rags may draw & wanted to try & cash in at all costs.
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Re: Our Defense.

Postby Beefymcfc » Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:04 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:The problem was the goalkeeper because the defence didn't stop the shots, which in turn was down to the midfield because they allowed them to get through, which in turn was the striker's fault because they should've been putting it into the oppo's net.

Simple this blame shit, isn't it.

For me though, we lost our way in midfield and they forced us back and over-ran us. Yaya and Barry aren't the option usually as they are both big guy's with limited speed who will run out of puff too early, especially after playing midweek. I can sort of understand why he brought Zab's on at the time but for the life of me cannot understand why he brought Big Dave off. If he wanted to cover the midfield, add to it by taking a striker off and affording us more flexibility both forward and rear, not just cover.

Sorry for going off on a tangent but I'm beginning to think that Mancini has a pre-set plan for rotating the players as I fail to understand where these decisions coe from.


I recon they planned to only play some players for part of the game. We have to take care of these blokes as without both Nasri & Silva, we don't attack with the same quality. One of them should always be on the pitch though. Would have been better to play half a game each imo but Bob maybe thought the rags may draw & wanted to try & cash in at all costs.

Understandable but as we all know games are dynamic and you have to go with the flow of the game, no pre-ordained plan. This is 2 games where it hasn't worked and the players will start to get a bit pissed if they begin to be aware of his plans to take them off. What's the point in competition if you know what's coming.
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Re: Our Defense.

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:11 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:The problem was the goalkeeper because the defence didn't stop the shots, which in turn was down to the midfield because they allowed them to get through, which in turn was the striker's fault because they should've been putting it into the oppo's net.

Simple this blame shit, isn't it.

For me though, we lost our way in midfield and they forced us back and over-ran us. Yaya and Barry aren't the option usually as they are both big guy's with limited speed who will run out of puff too early, especially after playing midweek. I can sort of understand why he brought Zab's on at the time but for the life of me cannot understand why he brought Big Dave off. If he wanted to cover the midfield, add to it by taking a striker off and affording us more flexibility both forward and rear, not just cover.

Sorry for going off on a tangent but I'm beginning to think that Mancini has a pre-set plan for rotating the players as I fail to understand where these decisions coe from.


I recon they planned to only play some players for part of the game. We have to take care of these blokes as without both Nasri & Silva, we don't attack with the same quality. One of them should always be on the pitch though. Would have been better to play half a game each imo but Bob maybe thought the rags may draw & wanted to try & cash in at all costs.

Understandable but as we all know games are dynamic and you have to go with the flow of the game, no pre-ordained plan. This is 2 games where it hasn't worked and the players will start to get a bit pissed if they begin to be aware of his plans to take them off. What's the point in competition if you know what's coming.


I think that's how it works at most clubs in these circumstances though. The rags often start with a weaker side when resting players & bring them all on if the shit hits the fan. Sometimes they take them off as soon as they go a couple of goals up. I think we're suffering at the moment because Tevez always starts unfit & Nige + Milner are unavailable. Milner showed v Bolton that he can be a good allrounder next to Silva. That would allow Bob to rest Nasri, then swap him for Silva if needed.

Sooner or later Tevez & Balotelli will enter the starting lineups.
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