Mancini IN !

[david yearsley]

No problem with Mancini at all and will back him to the hilt at the moment.

When he subbed Dzeko and the commentator says oh that's odd, I turned to my mate and said it means that he will bring Tevez on and is shoring up the midfield first. Exactly what he said post match. If you have been watching carefully he has done the same thing 3 times this season now. For me that shows a great insight into Mancini's thinking... ie. planning ahead with care. He is aware that the change of a striker isolated up front will make less impact while the midfield is struggling than if some parity has been restored.
He knows the value of a solid base and knows which way round is more likely to bring results.

When he came in and did all the boring stuff after Hughes it wasn't clear what he was about, but over the course of last season he showed exactly that he had a plan to solidify the team from defence to midfield and then on to the attack. He stuck with that plan when fans were moaning and got the team to show they could hold the midfield away from home at the best teams grounds.

Things that have got in the way imo have been players not doing what they are told to do, or unable to... read Adebayor, Jo.
With all the players brought in it is no easy feat getting a style of play and discipline sorted while trying to achieve something and learn about the Prem as well.

For me there is little doubt that Mancini is a cut above your average manager, he looks like he has a clear and detailed plan that he will push to realise as and when practicalities allow. If given the time and support I really have no doubt he will turn the squad into a team that rarely loses a game and has a mentality that backs that up.

The new players in this summer were always going to distort the balance while they find the roles and communication with the others already here that eez normaaal! What appears to have happened so far though is that the balance has gone too far towards creative play and a loss of discipline has crept in. Mancini is obviously aware of this and has said so on numerous occassions already, he doesn't appear to have found a way of sorting it though and Yaya and Barry combo just lacks the communication required for a top class watertight outfit.
Is that why Bob was asking for another proper midfielder?

DeJong is the answer, but isn't the real answer if you get that.
Bob will sort it of that we can have no doubt and that is why we can be confident in him imo.

While we are on the subject though, Yaya, Nasri and Aguero need to do more work, simples.

Re the midfield connundrum I think we´ll be seeing Hargreaves sooner rather than later , although not in the CL which is a shame considering Tevez has just wasted a spot

[avoidconfusion]

I'd have Tevez on the bench just so the fans can have a go at him .... actually, best save that one for the following week at home.

Hmm I think I'd rather put someone on the bench who wants to play and can be an option.

[1950]

I was worried when he started bitching about the "silly" goal we conceded during the drubbing of spurs - I thought "thats the end of that then" & sure enough, the flair and energy we showed during the early games started to dissipate - he's too much of a perfectionist imo and thats a weekness

How's that a weakness?

[Chinners]

I'd have Tevez on the bench just so the fans can have a go at him .... actually, best save that one for the following week at home.

Hmm I think I'd rather put someone on the bench who wants to play and can be an option.

Obviously ... but it would be nice to do so he could hear/get the fans reaction if he had to be in the stadium ... otherwise he'll just be holed up in his rented house thinking he's done nothing wrong and that we all love him still ...

[Beefymcfc]

I'm sure there won't be many who won't back Mancini on these issues but on the field of play he got it completely wrong.

[Waz]

On Saturday at Blackburn I want to see the 7,000 City fans there get behind him with a massive Mancini chant - send the right message to everyone to say that we're all behind him.

And maybe this to the tune of Sailing:

"F---- off Tevez,
F----- off Tevez
F----- off Tevez
From City.."

Basically we as fans should be doing what we can to make sure he never plays for the club again. I don't want Mancini to walk (which may happen if the board don't back him) as he's trying to do the right thing.

[paulmclaren]

Agreed.

However, one thing all the crap with Tevez has done is take the emphasis off what was a terrible decision last night over Lescott/Kolo.

it would have made no difference sticking lescott in, the goals were down to not closing down players on the edge of the box blame yaya and barry for that they both got run ragged

I thought Barry was by far the better of the two yaya was our worst player, lethargic, lazy, unconvincing all game, he needs dropping, give milner a shot.

[Tokyo Blue]

Roberto Mancini deserves 100% support in dealing with the Dzeko incident and others like it.

Mancini deserves our support in his stance on Tevez too now that the Argentine has started his denial of any wrongdoing.

Here's our chance to send our thoughts to the club about this situation.

The owners of the club have got to back the manager in the quickest, fullest and most public manner they can.

Tevez deserves to be training on his own for the remainder of his contract and should never pull on a City shirt again under any circumstances.

[brite blu sky]

I'm sure there won't be many who won't back Mancini on these issues but on the field of play he got it completely wrong.

Would you like to elaborate on that..

[steveo_88]

Watched the post-match press thingy and Mancini admits he got the tactics wrong by trying to be more offensive, fair enough he see's the mistakes and knows what to fix and importantly has the players. He is pissed by the lack of effort and defending which doesn't surprise me (mentioned working on defence for 4 days for Bayern!) as our midfield should be ashamed of their performance last night.

As for Tevez I wanted him gone before the end of last season and nothings changed.

I like the attitude of Mancini taking no whining from Dzeko (Silva did it at Fulham when we had lost control of midfield and was subbed), threatening to keep Edin on the bench in the conference. That's what the top managers do to win you play for the team or not at all. You don't play for Edin Dzeko or against Bayern for yourself you play for Manchester City!

I wasn't a fan of Mancini when he came but now I understand how the man works I believe, Bobby doesn't always throw on attackers needlessly but goes out to win the tactical battle (typically Italian). For example Bayern, [2nd half] we were winning nothing in midfield and getting no ball so he tried to stiffen us up (De Jong) and break up their play. Tevez should (and was going to) have come on as a fresh attacking option which could have turned the game, right moves. No point in bringing a striker on if you can't provide the service first!
Mancini is the man to take this team forward. He was picked by the Sheikh not inherited and he will be here long after Tevez is disposed of, ASAP please. There are players in this team who are still learning how to play, and what is required of them in the Champions League (Richards, Kompany, Lescott, Barry, Aguero, Dzeko, Hart etc).

May I add for all the Tevez worshippers for all of Mario Ballotelli's mental behaviour off the pitch has he been as much of a problem on it this year? Now weigh up the contributions the two players have made so far this year and who deserves to play next in line to Edin and Sergio? Tevez has no right to complain (he is payed to do a job after all) and if he refuses to take his chance let's get Guidetti or Bunn in there who will give 100% until January.

Mancini is the boss, keep the faith.

[ashton287]

I wouldnt say mancini out ever, i like him.

But dropping lescott for kolo was a shocking decision considering lescott has been better than kompany this season and kolo hasn't played in months. The mind boggles.

[CityGer]

Watched the post-match press thingy and Mancini admits he got the tactics wrong by trying to be more offensive, fair enough he see's the mistakes and knows what to fix and importantly has the players. He is pissed by the lack of effort and defending which doesn't surprise me (mentioned working on defence for 4 days for Bayern!) as our midfield should be ashamed of their performance last night.

As for Tevez I wanted him gone before the end of last season and nothings changed.

I like the attitude of Mancini taking no whining from Dzeko (Silva did it at Fulham when we had lost control of midfield and was subbed), threatening to keep Edin on the bench in the conference. That's what the top managers do to win you play for the team or not at all. You don't play for Edin Dzeko or against Bayern for yourself you play for Manchester City!

I wasn't a fan of Mancini when he came but now I understand how the man works I believe, Bobby doesn't always throw on attackers needlessly but goes out to win the tactical battle (typically Italian). For example Bayern, [2nd half] we were winning nothing in midfield and getting no ball so he tried to stiffen us up (De Jong) and break up their play. Tevez should (and was going to) have come on as a fresh attacking option which could have turned the game, right moves. No point in bringing a striker on if you can't provide the service first!
Mancini is the man to take this team forward. He was picked by the Sheikh not inherited and he will be here long after Tevez is disposed of, ASAP please. There are players in this team who are still learning how to play, and what is required of them in the Champions League (Richards, Kompany, Lescott, Barry, Aguero, Dzeko, Hart etc).

May I add for all the Tevez worshippers for all of Mario Ballotelli's mental behaviour off the pitch has he been as much of a problem on it this year? Now weigh up the contributions the two players have made so far this year and who deserves to play next in line to Edin and Sergio? Tevez has no right to complain (he is payed to do a job after all) and if he refuses to take his chance let's get Guidetti or Bunn in there who will give 100% until January.

Mancini is the boss, keep the faith.

Well said.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Mancini is supposed to be in charge, but this is a fiasco!
There are clearly problems off the pitch, and on it he has done nothing no other half decent manager couldn't have done.
The man is nowt special.
McCarthy IN!

[Crossie]

If you think about it properly, Bobby has had a fucking rough ride here. But he has stayed professional and held his head high.

He had to deal with several WANKERS, brought in by Hughes. No doubt it disrupts the squad. Ade, Bellers, Tevez, all have friends in the club, and in turn those friends would get abit miffed at the way we've had to ship out the trouble causers.

Then he has to put up with Cook and Marwoods transfer dealings, although we will never know whether they have conducted themselves properly, I cant help thinking having the manager sign the players is the right way to go.

Who knows what damage Tevez has done in the dressing room. I would hope that the rest of the squad are reasonably mature and can see the light here, and stay on Mancini's side.

We have only lost 1 game, away from home against a top 4 club in the world, its not the end of the world is it?? Back to reality on Saturday. A nice 3-0 win would be the best tonic.

[Feed The Goat]

Mancini is supposed to be in charge, but this is a fiasco!
There are clearly problems off the pitch, and on it he has done nothing no other half decent manager couldn't have done.
The man is nowt special.
McCarthy IN!

Stop this now it's not funny anymore. Remember when Chelsea had Jose and everyone was saying anyone can do that with the resources he's got and they fucked him off?

Well it turned out not to be so true didn't it? Since they got rid they've been looking for someone to do as good a job as he did well in my opinion bobby is our Jose and If we fuck him off we might spend another 3 seasons trying to replace him.

Let's all get behind him we are after all unbeaten in the league sitting rather nicely near the top.

[Blue Since 76]

Roberto Mancini deserves 100% support in dealing with the Dzeko incident and others like it.

Mancini deserves our support in his stance on Tevez too now that the Argentine has started his denial of any wrongdoing.

Here's our chance to send our thoughts to the club about this situation.

The owners of the club have got to back the manager in the quickest, fullest and most public manner they can.

Tevez deserves to be training on his own for the remainder of his contract and should never pull on a City shirt again under any circumstances.

why do they need to back the manager? There is no suggestion anywhere that it's him or herman they're choosing over. Mancini will clearly be backed when the punishment for herman is announced.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Stu you will follow any old shite the club throw at you. You have thought every manager we have ever had was the bee's knees.



>>>>> He had to deal with several WANKERS, brought in by Hughes. No doubt it disrupts the squad. Ade, Bellers, Tevez,

Look at those three names. Especially Tevez and Ade. What a waste of raw talent because Bob can't manage them. Sinful!

[Feed The Goat]

Stu you will follow any old shite the club throw at you. You have thought every manager we have ever had was the bee's knees.

>>>>> He had to deal with several WANKERS, brought in by Hughes. No doubt it disrupts the squad. Ade, Bellers, Tevez,

Look at those three names. Especially Tevez and Ade. What a waste of raw talent because Bob can't manage them. Sinful!

What Tevez did isn't bobby fault Tevez is a prick and ade went mental Cos he got shot.

Bobby has done an excellent job thus far a few mistakes along the way but that's to be expected

[Blue Since 76]

I'm sure there won't be many who won't back Mancini on these issues but on the field of play he got it completely wrong.

Would you like to elaborate on that..

I can't speak for Beefy, but...

Toure for Lescott was a strange one. I'm no fan of Lescott, but to bring in a player who'd only made one appearance this season in such a high profile match was odd.
Yaya and barry can't play together. It's like Yaya and Vieira last season - both ok in their own right, but too slow together. NDJ not being fit was a loss, but he should have found some energy and pace to go in there.
Especially considering the slow midfield, we were completely outnumbered. We had the same problem last time against Kiev when we suddenly became gung-ho and it happened last night. I would have expected us to be much more compact and high temp and to try and hit them on the break. If we went one down, we'd have had more to bring on in either a Nasri or Aguero, rather than not having a lot of attacking intent on the bench, made much worse by herman's antics.

A very poor performance from the players once we let one in, but I think tactically and in the team selected, Mancini got in wrong. Hopefully he gets it right in the remaining 4 games and we can get at least 2nd.

[simon12]

Agreed.

However, one thing all the crap with Tevez has done is take the emphasis off what was a terrible decision last night over Lescott/Kolo.

it would have made no difference sticking lescott in, the goals were down to not closing down players on the edge of the box blame yaya and barry for that they both got run ragged

We do this every week in the prem, yet go to germany and stand off all game and allow a team with CL experience bags of room at home. Top and bottom that was the problem last night end of.