adam johnson

[TheGOAT]

is it just me or is he slow? on several occasions now i've seen him out 'sprinted' by players who i would have put money on being slower than him....

He isn't quick.For him to be effective it has to be in the last third where his quick feet and skill can get him the yard he needs to get past defenders.Any further back and they can usually get back to him.

Spot on

[DoomMerchant]

there is ultimately a reason he was sold to us for about 8M, right?

not chump change, but not the pricetag of a world class winger, is it? Oddly, look at what scouse filth paid for Downing? seems mad, but he's proven himself a more consistent producer than Jinky has, right?

ultimately for Johnson it seems it's both the system and our talent level that have given him a Malachi Crunch he needs to buck up and respond to. He prollee could have been as or more productive than Downing at Villa, who knows.

cheers

[Wonderwall]

there is ultimately a reason he was sold to us for about 8M, right?

not chump change, but not the pricetag of a world class winger, is it? Oddly, look at what scouse filth paid for Downing? seems mad, but he's proven himself a more consistent producer than Jinky has, right?

ultimately for Johnson it seems it's both the system and our talent level that have given him a Malachi Crunch he needs to buck up and respond to. He prollee could have been as or more productive than Downing at Villa, who knows.

cheers

£8m for a player from a relegated side who were underperforming in the championship is a decent fee, how many championship players have gone for more?!!

Downings fee is a stupid price that Liverpool have paid to try and et some width for Carroll, this we all agree with.
Which downing have you been watching? He started to perform late into last season, he was poor up until that and always goes missing against decent fullbacks.

Jinky got a grilling by Mancini for acting like a big time charlie, I would imagine he now knows he is in a very serious business and needs to be professional about his work and lifestyle.

[s1ty m]

there is ultimately a reason he was sold to us for about 8M, right?

not chump change, but not the pricetag of a world class winger, is it? Oddly, look at what scouse filth paid for Downing? seems mad, but he's proven himself a more consistent producer than Jinky has, right?

ultimately for Johnson it seems it's both the system and our talent level that have given him a Malachi Crunch he needs to buck up and respond to. He prollee could have been as or more productive than Downing at Villa, who knows.

cheers

I don't agree, Downing is a poor player; Liverpool have paid a daft fee for someone not anywhere remotely as good as AJ. AJ has his flaws and we all seem to see it, but in my opinion, he's way better than Downing.

[CityGer]

The fact Johnson was six months away from being out of contract was the major factor in his fee being as low as it was.

Downing couldn't lace his boots.

[DoomMerchant]

there is ultimately a reason he was sold to us for about 8M, right?

not chump change, but not the pricetag of a world class winger, is it? Oddly, look at what scouse filth paid for Downing? seems mad, but he's proven himself a more consistent producer than Jinky has, right?

ultimately for Johnson it seems it's both the system and our talent level that have given him a Malachi Crunch he needs to buck up and respond to. He prollee could have been as or more productive than Downing at Villa, who knows.

cheers

£8m for a player from a relegated side who were underperforming in the championship is a decent fee, how many championship players have gone for more?!!

Downings fee is a stupid price that Liverpool have paid to try and et some width for Carroll, this we all agree with.
Which downing have you been watching? He started to perform late into last season, he was poor up until that and always goes missing against decent fullbacks.

Jinky got a grilling by Mancini for acting like a big time charlie, I would imagine he now knows he is in a very serious business and needs to be professional about his work and lifestyle.

as i said, Johnson could have put up great numbers for Villa...and the point about the fee is duly noted. i suppose there isn't a reference for a Championship player going for much more that i can think of. Regardless, my basic point is -- is he really good enough to do a job for us? and as much as i love some of his attributes, i don't know that he is. i'm hopeful, and i'm frustrated that he's never been given a run on the left side, but i can only judge by what he's done, and not the potential.

What do you think?

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Downing couldn't lace his boots.

Spot on.

[DoomMerchant]

Downing couldn't lace his boots.

Spot on.

maybe we should have sold Jinky to scouse filth for 30M then if we can't find a way to use him?

cheers

[CityGer]

Downing couldn't lace his boots.

Spot on.

maybe we should have sold Jinky to scouse filth for 30M then if we can't find a way to use him?

cheers

ha ha

I think Bobby does rate him. I also think all the stuff you hear in the media about lack of game time is a bit of myth. I wouldn't know where to find the stats and I could be wrong but my recollection is that when fit he did ok last season in terms of appearances. He certainly sounds content enough in that interview.

Fact is players such as AJ are a bit of a luxury, they're not going to start every week unless they are top drawer and leave the manager with no choice. I think Bobby has and will continue to give him a fair crack of the whip and I'm glad he's in our squad. Yes he needs to keep the ball better and be a bit more consistent but he wins us points. It's up to him where his City career goes.

One thing I'm certain of and that is that the media linking him with clubs such as Everton and Sunderland in some sort of loan deal is some of the worst bollox I have read all summer.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Downing couldn't lace his boots.

Spot on.

maybe we should have sold Jinky to scouse filth for 30M then if we can't find a way to use him?

cheers

ha ha

I think Bobby does rate him. I also think all the stuff you hear in the media about lack of game time is a bit of myth. I wouldn't know where to find the stats and I could be wrong but my recollection is that when fit he did ok last season in terms of appearances. He certainly sounds content enough in that interview.

Fact is players such as AJ are a bit of a luxury, they're not going to start every week unless they are top drawer and leave the manager with no choice. I think Bobby has and will continue to give him a fair crack of the whip and I'm glad he's in our squad. Yes he needs to keep the ball better and be a bit more consistent but he wins us points. It's up to him where his City career goes.

One thing I'm certain of and that is that the media linking him with clubs such as Everton and Sunderland in some sort of loan deal is some of the worst bollox I have read all summer.

This.

Also, just because Scousepool spent 20m on Downing doesn't mean Downing is worth 20m. They were robbed.

[DoomMerchant]

Downing couldn't lace his boots.

Spot on.

maybe we should have sold Jinky to scouse filth for 30M then if we can't find a way to use him?

cheers

ha ha

I think Bobby does rate him. I also think all the stuff you hear in the media about lack of game time is a bit of myth. I wouldn't know where to find the stats and I could be wrong but my recollection is that when fit he did ok last season in terms of appearances. He certainly sounds content enough in that interview.

Fact is players such as AJ are a bit of a luxury, they're not going to start every week unless they are top drawer and leave the manager with no choice. I think Bobby has and will continue to give him a fair crack of the whip and I'm glad he's in our squad. Yes he needs to keep the ball better and be a bit more consistent but he wins us points. It's up to him where his City career goes.

One thing I'm certain of and that is that the media linking him with clubs such as Everton and Sunderland in some sort of loan deal is some of the worst bollox I have read all summer.

This.

Also, just because Scousepool spent 20m on Downing doesn't mean Downing is worth 20m. They were robbed.

Robbed you say? The scouse? interesting.

[Moonchesteri]

Is AJ injured? If so, how bad is it?
He would've been a good option yesterday as we needed some width badly imo. Could be useful at Blackburn too if he is fit

[irblinx]

Is AJ injured? If so, how bad is it?
He would've been a good option yesterday as we needed some width badly imo. Could be useful at Blackburn too if he is fit

According to Roberto he was injured at weekend so probably

[Bridge'srightfoot]

The thing about AJ is that he has so much potential but just can't get it right. I guarantee if Ferguson had Johnson for a year or two he'd make him world class. That's one thing Mancini can learn from whiskey nose, turning good players into great ones.

[King Kev]

He's the slowest winger we have had since Rick Holden.

[john@staustell]

The thing about AJ is that he has so much potential but just can't get it right. I guarantee if Ferguson had Johnson for a year or two he'd make him world class. That's one thing Mancini can learn from whiskey nose, turning good players into great ones.

For every Hernandez there's at least one Kleberson or Djemba Djemba mate.

[zuricity]

The thing about AJ is that he has so much potential but just can't get it right. I guarantee if Ferguson had Johnson for a year or two he'd make him world class. That's one thing Mancini can learn from whiskey nose, turning good players into great ones.

For every Hernandez there's at least one Kleberson or Djemba Djemba mate.

Hernandez was a good player before he went to Old Trafford. Which is why Ferguson BOUGHT him, he hasn't made him any better. Hernandenz is playing the same way he did before he went there. He's in a good team too.

Jonno developed his skills at other clubs also. Those skills get leant over years and years , not overnight when entering
OT.

Both players are refining their skills at a higher level and if anything are probably learning more about the intensity at this level ( PL , CL etc Intensity = concentration, determination, speed of the game, will to win etc ).

The jury is still out on the great 'New' United players , Ferguson 'Signed' in the summer. They even get automatic selection in the England squad which is a joke. Anyway, the couldn't even hold a two nil lead against a simply awful team like Basel ( honest , they've been shocking so far this season in the Swiss league- given the resources at hand in Basel).

United are imploding , imo, they got dead lucky against Chelsea, same too with WBA. I have a really nice feeling about Norwich having a go at them this weekend.

So i guess , I don't accept that Ferguson would make Jonno necessarily any better. Let's face it Giggs is a one off talent he would have fitted in any team if only because he's a brilliant left footed player. Which every team needs.

If Jonno could up his speed this would help him immensely. I think any manager could tell him to work on his pace.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

One of the things Fergie does immensely is make good talented players into great ones.

Look at Ronaldo, first few seasons he wasn't that great but then look what happened, same with Nani who was a bit shit at first but now is a quality player.
The talent was already there, it needed someone to bring it out of them.
Ashley Young looks twice the player he did at Villa, same applies to Phil Jones and Smalling. He gets the very best out of his players- look at how many important goals and performances Park and Fletcher have given him over the years.

Johnson is a player who with the right coaching and management could be world class, he has brilliant close control skills, and can always be a danger.

[Ted Hughes]

One of the things Fergie does immensely is make good talented players into great ones.

Look at Ronaldo, first few seasons he wasn't that great but then look what happened, same with Nani who was a bit shit at first but now is a quality player.
The talent was already there, it needed someone to bring it out of them.
Ashley Young looks twice the player he did at Villa, same applies to Phil Jones and Smalling. He gets the very best out of his players- look at how many important goals and performances Park and Fletcher have given him over the years.

Johnson is a player who with the right coaching and management could be world class, he has brilliant close control skills, and can always be a danger.

Ferguson signs players to do a job. Ashley Young was exactly the same player at Villa but playing in a poor team. He & Milner carved up the rags two seasons ago. Milner would be doing the same alongside Young if he played FOR the rags now. I've watched us beat Villa & yet Ashley Young has put 5-6 brilliant crosses into our box. Ferguson sees that & pictures Wqayne Rooney scoring a hat trick. They have a system which works & they sign player who suit it. Imo, Jones may well play in midfield for Utd in the future (if they can find another CB to replace camelgob). He has the pace & power to do the job we are asking slow (Barry) or unfit (Toure) players to do, enabling Utd's wide men to get forward. If he doesn't play there, he has pace to add to the CB position which Wio & Vidic don't. We have, for years, lacked a CB with pace, a midfielder with pace who can get up & down & a bloke who can put crosses in. We still lack them £500 million later.

Ferguson has just signed all 3 in a simple & logical manner. That's why he wins stuff.

[twosips]

Ashley Young just looks better cos he's playing with better players. Similar reason as to why Gael Clichy looks great now too - he's playing in a good, confident team again.