What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby brite blu sky » Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:46 pm

Not sure about you lot, but I've seen him be the same way each season.

If you ask me the clue to him is in the way he runs. Takes some doing to get going, but then when he does it is practically impossible to stop him.

Last season he was shite for the first 10 games, then just about ok, then kind of one of the key players, then putting in some good performances, then almost irreplaceble and then winning vital games by storming through the whole pitch knocking allcomers for six.

By the very end of the season he was just about ready to start!

If you ask me that's a bit wierd, but if it is correct then we should just not play him at all until at least xmas, or keep him back over summer and make him play the EDS team on his own ( well ok with a goalie then too ).

Mindboggling, but we can't afford the luxury of him prancing around, he could have stopped about 4 goals building up this season if he did a bit of running.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby freshie » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:32 pm

13021J wrote:Yaya would walk into the first XI of any Premiership team. Anyone who disagrees is on acid. The man is a Rolls Royce.


More like a clapped out Lada last night and most of this season
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby freshie » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:33 pm

Duckman wrote:Always, he just stands out there, watching the trains go by.


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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby getdressedmctavish » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:12 pm

Ted on the money. They can al do bits but none is a complete player.Ya ya has vision and passing ability plus a great 4th gear but players go past him as if he isn't there and he starts games incredibly slowly.Our midfield is why we struggle at the top level because we have to use four players where three would do and therefore cant play a winger. That said, there's no one out there whose buyable as far as I can see.Watched a clip of King Colin in Pardoes broken leg game chasing and crossing for Mike Doyle to head in. No wonder us old boys are always less than enthusiastic about the current crop.Fecking cream.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby aaron bond » Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:35 am

freshie wrote:
13021J wrote:Yaya would walk into the first XI of any Premiership team. Anyone who disagrees is on acid. The man is a Rolls Royce.


More like a clapped out Lada last night and most of this season


He was for a lot of last season too. He showed glimpses of his ability and finished last season strongly, but he took ages to get going. Looks like the same is happening this season.

The Yaya situation reminds me a bit of Shay Given. If you were only to see his highlights on MOTD, he'd look very good. But when you actually watch them for the whole game, they're not as great as what they're made out to be. Given is an amazing shot stopper but his distribution and command of the area is shockingly bad. Yaya does the occasional great burst up the pitch and some nice passes, but for most of the game he looks lethargic and uninterested.

He should be dropped this weekend.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby King Kev » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:18 am

13021J wrote:The man is a Rolls Royce.

Is this the same guy who has to have a lie down after a 40 yard run?

He's a good player when he wants to be but he's certainly no Rolls Royce!
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Rag_hater » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:11 am

I think that Mancini wants to win every game and picks the strongest team he can to do this.This team includes Yaya.
There seems to be a bit of a lets slag off Yaya bandwagon going on with some of our fans who have found a criticism and milked to the max.However if one was to observe the actual facts instead of just repeating soundbites which record Yaya as probably the most effective passer in the side one of the most effective tacklers in the side one of the best runners in the side people could begin to understand how vital he is, instead of being jealous about his wages and mythical lack of fitness.
But some need a scapegoat and Yaya fits the bill . There are some things in his game that are easy to critisize but every player is guilty of that.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby aaron bond » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:20 pm

Rag_hater wrote:I think that Mancini wants to win every game and picks the strongest team he can to do this.This team includes Yaya.
There seems to be a bit of a lets slag off Yaya bandwagon going on with some of our fans who have found a criticism and milked to the max.However if one was to observe the actual facts instead of just repeating soundbites which record Yaya as probably the most effective passer in the side one of the most effective tacklers in the side one of the best runners in the side people could begin to understand how vital he is, instead of being jealous about his wages and mythical lack of fitness.
But some need a scapegoat and Yaya fits the bill . There are some things in his game that are easy to critisize but every player is guilty of that.


So we're just supposed to ignore when he:
- won't attempt to control the ball if it's passed more than 2 yards away from him
- needs a good rest for a minute or two if he sprints for more than 10 seconds
- doesn't attack the area he's supposed to be marking from corners

He infuriates me so often it's ridiculous, e.g. the Spurs away game where he simply could not be bothered to challenge for the header that Spurs scored from, or Bolton away when Jaaskeleinen is about to clear the ball from a goal kick in the 93rd minute and all our players are rushing back to defend and Yaya casually walks back from the Bolton penalty area making no attempt to help his team out.

Yaya had sporadic periods of good play towards the end of last season but that's it. Even if he has set up X amount of goals and Y amount of assists, for too many periods of the game he goes missing and for that he should be dropped.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby CityGer » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:26 pm

Rag_hater wrote:I think that Mancini wants to win every game and picks the strongest team he can to do this.This team includes Yaya.
There seems to be a bit of a lets slag off Yaya bandwagon going on with some of our fans who have found a criticism and milked to the max.However if one was to observe the actual facts instead of just repeating soundbites which record Yaya as probably the most effective passer in the side one of the most effective tacklers in the side one of the best runners in the side people could begin to understand how vital he is, instead of being jealous about his wages and mythical lack of fitness.
But some need a scapegoat and Yaya fits the bill . There are some things in his game that are easy to critisize but every player is guilty of that.


You need to start watching games rather than forming an opinion based on statistics from some website.

He was a fucking passenger. Let the game pass him by and did fuck all to try and influence things.

He rightly gets praised when he performs but he deserves criticism after tuesday.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Kladze » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:53 pm

CityGer wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:I think that Mancini wants to win every game and picks the strongest team he can to do this.This team includes Yaya.
There seems to be a bit of a lets slag off Yaya bandwagon going on with some of our fans who have found a criticism and milked to the max.However if one was to observe the actual facts instead of just repeating soundbites which record Yaya as probably the most effective passer in the side one of the most effective tacklers in the side one of the best runners in the side people could begin to understand how vital he is, instead of being jealous about his wages and mythical lack of fitness.
But some need a scapegoat and Yaya fits the bill . There are some things in his game that are easy to critisize but every player is guilty of that.


You need to start watching games rather than forming an opinion based on statistics from some website.

He was a fucking passenger. Let the game pass him by and did fuck all to try and influence things.

He rightly gets praised when he performs but he deserves criticism after tuesday.


I have to admit, I'm by no means a detractor of Yaya but after the opening thirty minutes, the game totally passed him by on Tuesday.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Beefymcfc » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:14 pm

King Kev wrote:
13021J wrote:The man is a Rolls Royce.

Is this the same guy who has to have a lie down after a 40 yard run?

He's a good player when he wants to be but he's certainly no Rolls Royce!

He's like a Silver Shadow, good for weddings but no good on a decent run.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Rag_hater » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:15 pm

You would think our manager who has played the game at a pretty high level and won a few things along the way would be able to spot the games that have passed Yaya by like all the observers on here.Maybe being on the touchline he doesn't get as good a view as those in the other parts of the ground and sees the same as me where he thinks Yaya is doing all that he is supposed to,maybe thats why he keeps picking him and he was one of the most played outfield players last year and for me if he keeps the standard up that he playing now will be this year.However unless he puts in a MOM performance every game the critics on here think he is being a lazy twat.
By the way Bayern are a pretty good side if they have players that can do stuff that beats other players perhaps that's why they pick them.A player beating another player that never happens.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Beefymcfc » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:18 pm

Has he got something in his contract that states if fit, must play, which boosts his earnings/bonuses? This is the only reason I can see him getting every game.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:24 pm

Rag_hater wrote:You would think our manager who has played the game at a pretty high level and won a few things along the way would be able to spot the games that have passed Yaya by like all the observers on here.Maybe being on the touchline he doesn't get as good a view as those in the other parts of the ground and sees the same as me where he thinks Yaya is doing all that he is supposed to,maybe thats why he keeps picking him and he was one of the most played outfield players last year and for me if he keeps the standard up that he playing now will be this year.However unless he puts in a MOM performance every game the critics on here think he is being a lazy twat.
By the way Bayern are a pretty good side if they have players that can do stuff that beats other players perhaps that's why they pick them.A player beating another player that never happens.


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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby CityGer » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:31 pm

Rag_hater wrote:You would think our manager who has played the game at a pretty high level and won a few things along the way would be able to spot the games that have passed Yaya by like all the observers on here.Maybe being on the touchline he doesn't get as good a view as those in the other parts of the ground and sees the same as me where he thinks Yaya is doing all that he is supposed to,maybe thats why he keeps picking him and he was one of the most played outfield players last year and for me if he keeps the standard up that he playing now will be this year.However unless he puts in a MOM performance every game the critics on here think he is being a lazy twat.
By the way Bayern are a pretty good side if they have players that can do stuff that beats other players perhaps that's why they pick them.A player beating another player that never happens.


Did you watch the game?
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby PeterParker » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:34 pm

One thing that we forgot, Bob changed the system. Yaya last year was in most games where Kun is now, he loved to go up. Now he has Nige`s position as a defensive midfielder, a odd thing considering he was brought for that position in the first place.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:36 pm

CityGer wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:You would think our manager who has played the game at a pretty high level and won a few things along the way would be able to spot the games that have passed Yaya by like all the observers on here.Maybe being on the touchline he doesn't get as good a view as those in the other parts of the ground and sees the same as me where he thinks Yaya is doing all that he is supposed to,maybe thats why he keeps picking him and he was one of the most played outfield players last year and for me if he keeps the standard up that he playing now will be this year.However unless he puts in a MOM performance every game the critics on here think he is being a lazy twat.
By the way Bayern are a pretty good side if they have players that can do stuff that beats other players perhaps that's why they pick them.A player beating another player that never happens.


Did you watch the game?


He watches everything, sees nothing & reads a selection of random, incomplete statistics in order to try & understand what was going on, so he can be clever & tell everybody.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Nigels Tackle » Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:42 pm

King Kev wrote:
13021J wrote:The man is a Rolls Royce.

Is this the same guy who has to have a lie down after a 40 yard run?

He's a good player when he wants to be but he's certainly no Rolls Royce!


many on here described a certain vedran corluka as a royal royce of a player....
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Slim » Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:34 am

Yaya oozes class, surprisingly it's the same people criticising him who can't admit that Barry is too slow for a two man midfield...no no, he's underrated and those that think he's shit must not understand football, right?
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:34 am

I seriously don't get the Yaya bashing. He's not Nigel De Jong. Occasionally he goes forward and would like someone else to fill in.

10 years ago they called this kind of player a midfielder. Too many have become accustomed to the 1 dimesional.

That said He and Barry don't necessarily do the same job as one + Nige would in holding clean sheets. The balancee is the key and I think the two will rotate with Nige as will Nasri when he is fully fit.
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