adam johnson

[Bridge'srightfoot]

One of the things Fergie does immensely is make good talented players into great ones.

Look at Ronaldo, first few seasons he wasn't that great but then look what happened, same with Nani who was a bit shit at first but now is a quality player.
The talent was already there, it needed someone to bring it out of them.
Ashley Young looks twice the player he did at Villa, same applies to Phil Jones and Smalling. He gets the very best out of his players- look at how many important goals and performances Park and Fletcher have given him over the years.

Johnson is a player who with the right coaching and management could be world class, he has brilliant close control skills, and can always be a danger.

Ferguson signs players to do a job. Ashley Young was exactly the same player at Villa but playing in a poor team. He & Milner carved up the rags two seasons ago. Milner would be doing the same alongside Young if he played FOR the rags now. I've watched us beat Villa & yet Ashley Young has put 5-6 brilliant crosses into our box. Ferguson sees that & pictures Wqayne Rooney scoring a hat trick. They have a system which works & they sign player who suit it. Imo, Jones may well play in midfield for Utd in the future (if they can find another CB to replace camelgob). He has the pace & power to do the job we are asking slow (Barry) or unfit (Toure) players to do, enabling Utd's wide men to get forward. If he doesn't play there, he has pace to add to the CB position which Wio & Vidic don't. We have, for years, lacked a CB with pace, a midfielder with pace who can get up & down & a bloke who can put crosses in. We still lack them £500 million later.

Ferguson has just signed all 3 in a simple & logical manner. That's why he wins stuff.

That doesn't really address my point. Johnson is a lot like Nani or Ronaldo when they were younger. The talent is most definitely there, he just needs someone to bring it out of him. Ashley Young does look better now imo, far more dangerous and the end product is there more often.

CB with pace? Richards, Distin, Onuoha, Kompany and Lescott aren't slow either

[Ted Hughes]

One of the things Fergie does immensely is make good talented players into great ones.

Look at Ronaldo, first few seasons he wasn't that great but then look what happened, same with Nani who was a bit shit at first but now is a quality player.
The talent was already there, it needed someone to bring it out of them.
Ashley Young looks twice the player he did at Villa, same applies to Phil Jones and Smalling. He gets the very best out of his players- look at how many important goals and performances Park and Fletcher have given him over the years.

Johnson is a player who with the right coaching and management could be world class, he has brilliant close control skills, and can always be a danger.

Ferguson signs players to do a job. Ashley Young was exactly the same player at Villa but playing in a poor team. He & Milner carved up the rags two seasons ago. Milner would be doing the same alongside Young if he played FOR the rags now. I've watched us beat Villa & yet Ashley Young has put 5-6 brilliant crosses into our box. Ferguson sees that & pictures Wqayne Rooney scoring a hat trick. They have a system which works & they sign player who suit it. Imo, Jones may well play in midfield for Utd in the future (if they can find another CB to replace camelgob). He has the pace & power to do the job we are asking slow (Barry) or unfit (Toure) players to do, enabling Utd's wide men to get forward. If he doesn't play there, he has pace to add to the CB position which Wio & Vidic don't. We have, for years, lacked a CB with pace, a midfielder with pace who can get up & down & a bloke who can put crosses in. We still lack them £500 million later.

Ferguson has just signed all 3 in a simple & logical manner. That's why he wins stuff.

That doesn't really address my point. Johnson is a lot like Nani or Ronaldo when they were younger. The talent is most definitely there, he just needs someone to bring it out of him. Ashley Young does look better now imo, far more dangerous and the end product is there more often.

CB with pace? Richards, Distin, Onuoha, Kompany and Lescott aren't slow either

Richards isn't playing CB. Distin walked out years ago & was a bottler in big games. Lescott & Vinny are slow. Ned's not good enough. Dunney was quick but a clumsy liability. Toure's defending is dodgy & he's not as quick as he used to be (why was he playing, is Lescott injured?) We have needed a (decent) CB with pace for years.

Imo, AJ isn't a conventional wide player; he could move inside. He's also never going to learn how to be one, playing on the wrong side.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Ted, that still isn't what I'm saying.

Johnson has fantastic potential, his quick footwork and great ability to beat a man need to be utilised more. All the talent is there, he just needs to be developed because he could be great. Look at Nani, for the first couple of years he wasn't great. The talent was always there but he didn't know how to use it and often made the wrong choices. A lot like Johnno in many ways. Now he's a different player who always looks a danger.

Back to the point, if you gave Ferguson Johnson, he'd turn him world class imo.

[Crossie]

F*rgie just gets players to realise they need to play in the team, for the team. Ronaldo was a fucking step over wanker, selfish, F*rgie eventually got him to realise he needed to use his team mates, and in turn, they would use him.

Fergie makes teams understand how to play as teams, how to play for each other. Each position has a job, and the player must understand and carry out that job, otherwise he's out.

Bobby is trying to do the same, there have clearly been players around that werent arsed about doing a job for the team, its still happening now. I think Tevez has never realised its about the team, I think in AJ, there is also abit of selfishness which needs to be developed into team work.

No doubting AJ's ability, although there is a doubt about his pace, and pace is something you cant just improve, maybe by 5-10% if your fit and keep at it. Being fit and staying confident that you can run at 100% and not injure yourself helps!

[aaron bond]

For me, AJ's problem is his decision-making. He has raw talent, most definitely, but more often than not his decision-making lets him down. He loses the ball almost every time he receives it.

On too many occasions when he should cross the ball, he chooses to take on another player. When he should take on another player, he chooses to cross or pass the ball. That's why he's a sub all of the time because his productivity is poor.

If he can improve his decision-making, I believe he could be a very good player for us. Until then, he'll only ever be a squad player for a very good side.

[paulmclaren]

He's not good enough, simple as that, good impact player to bring on for 20mins against tired legs, but i dont think he deserves to start. Certainly won;t feature if we sign the sort of players we hope too in the summer

He will go out on loan in jan and be one of the best players in the prem.
He just doesn't get enough time to show how good he is.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

He's not good enough, simple as that, good impact player to bring on for 20mins against tired legs, but i dont think he deserves to start. Certainly won;t feature if we sign the sort of players we hope too in the summer

He will go out on loan in jan and be one of the best players in the prem.
He just doesn't get enough time to show how good he is.

Players don't go on loan to smaller clubs and become "one of the best in the prem"

It's almost always a step u that brings that out. Playing with class week in week out and forcing your way into the team. If Aj goes on loan to a smaller club he might become the big fish in the small pond, but this is the place to become "the best"

[Ted Hughes]

Johnson will get opportunities to play & it's then up to him. If he plays well enough, he'll feature more & more. If not, he'll be a fringe player. No doors have been closed to him; it's all there in front of him if he want's to grab it (mind you the same applied to Titus Bramble & look how that ended up).

[irblinx]

Players don't go on loan to smaller clubs and become "one of the best in the prem"

It's almost always a step u that brings that out. Playing with class week in week out and forcing your way into the team. If Aj goes on loan to a smaller club he might become the big fish in the small pond, but this is the place to become "the best"

Jack Wilshere? Cleverley?

If he isn't getting games then he won't improve and at the moment even if he was fit he'd still be on the bench at most

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Remember when we signed him? He was going past players at will, he just needs to get that confidence back. More importantly he absolutely needs to play on the left, he is far to predictable and restricted on the right.

[Ted Hughes]

Remember when we signed him? He was going past players at will, he just needs to get that confidence back. More importantly he absolutely needs to play on the left, he is far to predictable and restricted on the right.

He has to play where Bob wants him to. If he can't do that, he needs to go somewhere else so we can bring in somebody who can.

[Hazy2]

Remember when we signed him? He was going past players at will, he just needs to get that confidence back. More importantly he absolutely needs to play on the left, he is far to predictable and restricted on the right.

He has to play where Bob wants him to. If he can't do that, he needs to go somewhere else so we can bring in somebody who can.

AJ is a victim of RM tactics,Milner has been used wide, not for his creative side but work ethic, we need to be more than the rigid way Mancini sets up at times, After he has had all week to work on his game plan Ted you can predict the subs as a fan, Fullbacks started well on Tues, however as Bayern played down one side for 90 mins Ribery, had space and one on one all night, That for me was a worry going forward is Mancini limited to his plan, Kidd and platt haveeyes,I know his head was distracted, with Twatez, but he had watched them get in plenty of times Lahm played where he wanted as we were top heavy in the middle and wide open out wide all night which he never addressed but to limit it to 2-0 Then say Tevez was coming on, which could be bullshit by the way ?

[Pretty Boy Lee]

Players don't go on loan to smaller clubs and become "one of the best in the prem"

It's almost always a step u that brings that out. Playing with class week in week out and forcing your way into the team. If Aj goes on loan to a smaller club he might become the big fish in the small pond, but this is the place to become "the best"

Jack Wilshere? Cleverley?

If he isn't getting games then he won't improve and at the moment even if he was fit he'd still be on the bench at most

Show me any single person on here that said Cleverly or Wilshere were the best in the prem last season and I'll digest my own testicles.

[Slim]

Players don't go on loan to smaller clubs and become "one of the best in the prem"

It's almost always a step u that brings that out. Playing with class week in week out and forcing your way into the team. If Aj goes on loan to a smaller club he might become the big fish in the small pond, but this is the place to become "the best"

Jack Wilshere? Cleverley?

If he isn't getting games then he won't improve and at the moment even if he was fit he'd still be on the bench at most

Show me any single person on here that said Cleverly or Wilshere were the best in the prem last season and I'll digest my own testicles.

A lot of people rate Wilshere very highly, I heard a line from Talkshite the other day that said Wilshere was the only midfielder left in the England side who could pick out a pass. Not sure AJ is destined to be "the best" anyway, but it certainly didn't harm either of those two.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Backed up my point, excellent ability. He has a chance to shine, he needs to grab it and become the player we all know he can be.

[Kladze]

Backed up my point, excellent ability. He has a chance to shine, he needs to grab it and become the player we all know he can be.

He needs to take his fucking eyes away from his boot laces now and again.


Great goal today though, so complaining seems a bit puerile.

[Slim]

I don't think AJ backed up anyone's point today, fantasticly taken goal though, right out of the top drawer.

[aaron bond]

Backed up my point, excellent ability. He has a chance to shine, he needs to grab it and become the player we all know he can be.

He needs to take his fucking eyes away from his boot laces now and again.


Great goal today though, so complaining seems a bit puerile.

I thought he was pretty abysmal up until his goal, but can't knock him for what was a magnificent goal. I really want him to succeed so hopefully the goal will boost his confidence and lead to an improvement in his all-round performance.

[ashton287]

I had just sen a text saying we need to get him off during the play that led to him getting the ball and scoring.

[OhDannyBoy]

Well i thought he was yet again very poor today, offered nothing until that goal. Yes it was a cracking goal and if he does that every game fair play.

He was poor though! Hes just not nearly as good as any other of our midfielders! Impact player - FACT.