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[bigblue]

The experts can point out all the shit things Downing does.
However the stats for the past few years tell a different story.
The fact of the matter is he has done what according to the experts he is incapable off.
AJ upto now has not.He may well have the potential but unless he betters what Downing has done over the next 3 years he has not done what Downing has already done.
Are the experts gonna deny the numbers Downing has achieved over the past years?
Are AJ's better?

I'll side with the "experts" over your clueless stats any day. Numbers out of context mean nothing, and I don't think you really understand that. A single stat proves nothing. Theres many factors that go into any stat such as the other players on the field, how the team is set up tactically, the end score of the game, all the other stats in the game, and actually seeing the game played.

It's like me saying that since agriculture only contributes 2% of England's GDP, it is practically worthless (only 2%!). When in reality England's agriculture supplies 60% of the country's food needs. Stats out of context are worthless

The argument is not about that.Why are the numbers out of context when they are used to highlight a fact.
The fact being pointed out using stats is that Downing has played better than AJ.
Downing may not play the way that people think he should.The fact of the matter is he gets the job done.
What argument is there that in every aspect that is being measured using the numbers that a player in that position is supposed to be judged on Downing has done better than AJ for some considerable time.
What Downing is worse at than AJ in the position they play is irrelevant.

I take it you read, but didn't understand my post at all. Sure you can have some stats about Downing vs AJ, but do they take into account: the other players on the field, how the team is set up tactically, the end score of the game, all the other stats in the game, and actually seeing the game played?

You question of "Why are the numbers out of context when they are used to highlight a fact" may be the dumbest thing I've heard on here and doesn't even merit a response.

I just can't see how as a City fan, you and Bridgesrightfoot would both choose fucking downing over Johnson. Boggles the mind

[Kladze]

Boggles the mind

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[1950]

The fact being pointed out using stats is that Downing has played better than AJ.

This are last season's stats:



Now please, tell us with a straight face, that Downing's stats are better. Hint: you might want to take an extra look at min per goal, chance conversation, avg succesful dribbles & pass completion among others.

The only, absolutely only thing Downing has over AJ is crossing accuracy, but then he's not even as good as Aaron fcking Lennon.

[Kladze]

Wow !

Valencia is fucking bobbins, those stats 'prove it'.




And they actually manage to make Dirk Kuyt look reasonable :-o

[Bridge'srightfoot]

The experts can point out all the shit things Downing does.
However the stats for the past few years tell a different story.
The fact of the matter is he has done what according to the experts he is incapable off.
AJ upto now has not.He may well have the potential but unless he betters what Downing has done over the next 3 years he has not done what Downing has already done.
Are the experts gonna deny the numbers Downing has achieved over the past years?
Are AJ's better?

I'll side with the "experts" over your clueless stats any day. Numbers out of context mean nothing, and I don't think you really understand that. A single stat proves nothing. Theres many factors that go into any stat such as the other players on the field, how the team is set up tactically, the end score of the game, all the other stats in the game, and actually seeing the game played.

It's like me saying that since agriculture only contributes 2% of England's GDP, it is practically worthless (only 2%!). When in reality England's agriculture supplies 60% of the country's food needs. Stats out of context are worthless

The argument is not about that.Why are the numbers out of context when they are used to highlight a fact.
The fact being pointed out using stats is that Downing has played better than AJ.
Downing may not play the way that people think he should.The fact of the matter is he gets the job done.
What argument is there that in every aspect that is being measured using the numbers that a player in that position is supposed to be judged on Downing has done better than AJ for some considerable time.
What Downing is worse at than AJ in the position they play is irrelevant.

I take it you read, but didn't understand my post at all. Sure you can have some stats about Downing vs AJ, but do they take into account: the other players on the field, how the team is set up tactically, the end score of the game, all the other stats in the game, and actually seeing the game played?

You question of "Why are the numbers out of context when they are used to highlight a fact" may be the dumbest thing I've heard on here and doesn't even merit a response.

I just can't see how as a City fan, you and Bridgesrightfoot would both choose fucking downing over Johnson. Boggles the mind

Oh yes because as city fan, every City player is world class and everyone else is shite.

[Moonchesteri]

I thought this thread is about micah... silly me.

[bluej]

The experts can point out all the shit things Downing does.
However the stats for the past few years tell a different story.
The fact of the matter is he has done what according to the experts he is incapable off.
AJ upto now has not.He may well have the potential but unless he betters what Downing has done over the next 3 years he has not done what Downing has already done.
Are the experts gonna deny the numbers Downing has achieved over the past years?
Are AJ's better?

I'll side with the "experts" over your clueless stats any day. Numbers out of context mean nothing, and I don't think you really understand that. A single stat proves nothing. Theres many factors that go into any stat such as the other players on the field, how the team is set up tactically, the end score of the game, all the other stats in the game, and actually seeing the game played.

It's like me saying that since agriculture only contributes 2% of England's GDP, it is practically worthless (only 2%!). When in reality England's agriculture supplies 60% of the country's food needs. Stats out of context are worthless

The argument is not about that.Why are the numbers out of context when they are used to highlight a fact.
The fact being pointed out using stats is that Downing has played better than AJ.
Downing may not play the way that people think he should.The fact of the matter is he gets the job done.
What argument is there that in every aspect that is being measured using the numbers that a player in that position is supposed to be judged on Downing has done better than AJ for some considerable time.
What Downing is worse at than AJ in the position they play is irrelevant.

I take it you read, but didn't understand my post at all. Sure you can have some stats about Downing vs AJ, but do they take into account: the other players on the field, how the team is set up tactically, the end score of the game, all the other stats in the game, and actually seeing the game played?

You question of "Why are the numbers out of context when they are used to highlight a fact" may be the dumbest thing I've heard on here and doesn't even merit a response.

I just can't see how as a City fan, you and Bridgesrightfoot would both choose fucking downing over Johnson. Boggles the mind

Oh yes because as city fan, every City player is world class and everyone else is shite.

Good grief, talk about taking everything out of context.

[Beefymcfc]

Hope he plays tomorrow, nice pat on the back from Mancini.

[bigblue]

Hope he plays tomorrow, nice pat on the back from Mancini.

He'll defiantly play tomorrow since zabba came back from south America.

Also bridgesrightfoot, almost every post I've read from you is strange, misinformed rubbish. Its weird because you're able to write pretty well, but the content of what you're saying is completely worthless. And the last post was no exception.

[Beefymcfc]

Hope he plays tomorrow, nice pat on the back from Mancini.

He'll defiantly play tomorrow since zabba came back from south America.

Also bridgesrightfoot, almost every post I've read from you is strange, misinformed rubbish. Its weird because you're able to write pretty well, but the content of what you're saying is completely worthless. And the last post was no exception.

I'm sure that there's certain people on the board that joined just to get some sort of social life and if they can't get acceptance they settle for attention.

That's why I joined ;-)

[Moonchesteri]

Hope he plays tomorrow, nice pat on the back from Mancini.

He'll defiantly play tomorrow since zabba came back from south America.

Yeah I'm pretty sure of that as well. I would be pleased to see MR play tomorrow and in the derby and Zabba to play vs. Villarreal.

[1950]

Bridge's right foot is as useless as his username suggests.

[Rag_hater]

The fact being pointed out using stats is that Downing has played better than AJ.

This are last season's stats:



Now please, tell us with a straight face, that Downing's stats are better. Hint: you might want to take an extra look at min per goal, chance conversation, avg succesful dribbles & pass completion among others.

The only, absolutely only thing Downing has over AJ is crossing accuracy, but then he's not even as good as Aaron fcking Lennon.

What those stats say to me is that Downing has many things that he is better than AJ.
If your argument is that Downing has played more minutes than AJ hence he has more of everything then I think it has to be noted that the reason IMO is that Downing has made himself undropable by his play whereas AJ played and did not do anything like Silva,Kompany NDJ, Yaya ,Barry who in our team made themselves undropable.
He was only injured during towards the end of Jan to the begining of March.That cannot be used as a reason.If he had been good enough he would have played
His bench warming season was because of his standard of play.

[Ted Hughes]

The fact being pointed out using stats is that Downing has played better than AJ.

This are last season's stats:



Now please, tell us with a straight face, that Downing's stats are better. Hint: you might want to take an extra look at min per goal, chance conversation, avg succesful dribbles & pass completion among others.

The only, absolutely only thing Downing has over AJ is crossing accuracy, but then he's not even as good as Aaron fcking Lennon.

What those stats say to me is that Downing has many things that he is better than AJ.
If your argument is that Downing has played more minutes than AJ hence he has more of everything then I think it has to be noted that the reason IMO is that Downing has made himself undropable by his play whereas AJ played and did not do anything like Silva,Kompany NDJ, Yaya ,Barry who in our team made themselves undropable.
He was only injured during towards the end of Jan to the begining of March.That cannot be used as a reason.If he had been good enough he would have played
His bench warming season was because of his standard of play.

So not only are you a fucking moron but your 'stats' are a load of fucking bullshit as well. Here's me trusting that you caharacters were telling the truth when in fact you're full of fucking shit & haven't even bothered to look it up. Why the fuck do you bother ?

If I was you I'd ditch football as a hobby & take up trepanning.

[bluej]

The fact being pointed out using stats is that Downing has played better than AJ.

This are last season's stats:



Now please, tell us with a straight face, that Downing's stats are better. Hint: you might want to take an extra look at min per goal, chance conversation, avg succesful dribbles & pass completion among others.

The only, absolutely only thing Downing has over AJ is crossing accuracy, but then he's not even as good as Aaron fcking Lennon.

What those stats say to me is that Downing has many things that he is better than AJ.
If your argument is that Downing has played more minutes than AJ hence he has more of everything then I think it has to be noted that the reason IMO is that Downing has made himself undropable by his play whereas AJ played and did not do anything like Silva,Kompany NDJ, Yaya ,Barry who in our team made themselves undropable.
He was only injured during towards the end of Jan to the begining of March.That cannot be used as a reason.If he had been good enough he would have played
His bench warming season was because of his standard of play.

So because the stats don't back up your argument, you've changed your tune about using them? Brilliant.

[ronk]

What those stats possibly say is that Kuyt is the form player.

[Mase]

So.................Micah Richards?

[Dameerto]

So.................Micah Richards?

Pretty sure he will start today - haven't read any press or club info about it, just a feeling. (assuming he is fit, obviously)

[Rag_hater]

The fact being pointed out using stats is that Downing has played better than AJ.

This are last season's stats:



Now please, tell us with a straight face, that Downing's stats are better. Hint: you might want to take an extra look at min per goal, chance conversation, avg succesful dribbles & pass completion among others.

The only, absolutely only thing Downing has over AJ is crossing accuracy, but then he's not even as good as Aaron fcking Lennon.

What those stats say to me is that Downing has many things that he is better than AJ.
If your argument is that Downing has played more minutes than AJ hence he has more of everything then I think it has to be noted that the reason IMO is that Downing has made himself undropable by his play whereas AJ played and did not do anything like Silva,Kompany NDJ, Yaya ,Barry who in our team made themselves undropable.
He was only injured during towards the end of Jan to the begining of March.That cannot be used as a reason.If he had been good enough he would have played
His bench warming season was because of his standard of play.

So not only are you a fucking moron but your 'stats' are a load of fucking bullshit as well. Here's me trusting that you caharacters were telling the truth when in fact you're full of fucking shit & haven't even bothered to look it up. Why the fuck do you bother ?

If I was you I'd ditch football as a hobby & take up trepanning.

What are on about
Downing has more starts and mins,
Downing has more total shots on and off,
Downing has better crosses and assists,
Downing has more passes there is more but cannot be arsed.
Trepan your head would love to

[bluej]

The fact being pointed out using stats is that Downing has played better than AJ.

This are last season's stats:



Now please, tell us with a straight face, that Downing's stats are better. Hint: you might want to take an extra look at min per goal, chance conversation, avg succesful dribbles & pass completion among others.

The only, absolutely only thing Downing has over AJ is crossing accuracy, but then he's not even as good as Aaron fcking Lennon.

What those stats say to me is that Downing has many things that he is better than AJ.
If your argument is that Downing has played more minutes than AJ hence he has more of everything then I think it has to be noted that the reason IMO is that Downing has made himself undropable by his play whereas AJ played and did not do anything like Silva,Kompany NDJ, Yaya ,Barry who in our team made themselves undropable.
He was only injured during towards the end of Jan to the begining of March.That cannot be used as a reason.If he had been good enough he would have played
His bench warming season was because of his standard of play.

So not only are you a fucking moron but your 'stats' are a load of fucking bullshit as well. Here's me trusting that you caharacters were telling the truth when in fact you're full of fucking shit & haven't even bothered to look it up. Why the fuck do you bother ?

If I was you I'd ditch football as a hobby & take up trepanning.

What are on about
Downing has more starts and mins,
Downing has more total shots on and off,
Downing has better crosses and assists,
Downing has more passes there is more but cannot be arsed.
Trepan your head would love to

Downing has all this in a weaker team, ergo has more starts etc. When you look at their comparative stats (i.e cross completion %, chance creation %) Downing's is either no better, or indeed weaker than Johnson. Is it really that hard to work out?

The stats point out that Downing has played more than Johnson, not better.