Dzeko

[branny]

it was one of those days for him, I dont doubt his ability.

BUT, am I the only one to see Džeko doing a bit of diving when in villareal penalty area?

No mate, I saw it too - I THINK it was Dzeko's way of saying I'm playing shite but could still get something for the team if I fall over and convince the ref. I hope his form picks up so he doesn't do it again though because it's not nice to see.

He did it over near the touch line as well looking for a free kick after the slightest nudge whereas if he'd got hold of the ball we were in a decent attacking position.

[Avalon]

There's no pleasing some.

If he doesn't score, he's the worst ever and his forst touch is appaling. If he scores three, he should have scored more. For fuck's sake, are you this bitter, negative and annoying in your daily life too?

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

The touch of an elephant:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SHAjK3c ... ata_player

That is brilliant!

He is certainly a big lad.
I think I'd enjoy Rhombus Gob trying to stop him.

[Original Dub]

I thought he'd proved me wrong after Spurs, I thought he'd turned a corner but since that he's gone back to his form of last season where he was utter shite. I don't doubt there's a good player in there somewhere but he just isn't showing it. He's not even been that great a finisher since joining us. How did he miss those two chances the other night? In such a big game. Especially the header, for someone who's so good in the air, that effort was pathetic. Not only that but he seems incapable of trapping a ball played to his feet. Most times it bounces off him, hence the touch of an elephant.

Certain posters can pretend that issue doesn't exist but everyone can see it. He needs to step it up because right now he sticks out like a sore thumb.

So you thought you were proved wrong but that proved to be wrong?

Settle down lad, stop exaggerating to the extreme, slagging our second top scorer off and move on.

Then some might begin to think of your fickle opinion as perhaps being the least knowlegable on the entire board.

[zuricity]

When some on here criticise Dzeko for his first touch being poor.....

Well here goes.....

1. He is a striker and must accept the way the ball is played to him. I remember on Tuesday Yaya rocketing a pass to him in the second half almost at stomach height. Not surprisingly ( two 'R's remember), Dzeko wasn't able to control it. In the lone striker role ( if that really was what he was playing on Tuesday), the player must not only be able to stop the ball however it's played to him, but also must at times, shield the ball. Oftentimes with his back to the goal.

Midfielders i think, have it a bit easier. Either they play a straight one-two or can run onto the ball. even go on mazy dribbling runs like our little god, El David and even Yaya likes to dribble.

A punt upfield from Joe is a 50-50 ball anyway and most of those passes that get peddled around in midfield and at the back are not critical passes(but make your pass completion stats look great! ), as compared to the ball being played into the oppositions box, a situation that Dzeko must deal with under pressure (usually).

2. To actually start picking holes in players when we're top of the league and doing well in most competitions so far, is unbelievable !
Sure , not everything goes perfectly to plan but we still are unbeaten in the league and but for a weak referee in the Allianz area, ( two defo pens , imo), we could have got something from it.

To say Dzeko is not in form is also a joke. I watched him play the full 90 minutes in Paris last week and he had a very good game. He had a difficult game in Bayern that's all . As has been pointed out elsewhere, at least he's always there or thereabouts when the goals are being scored as was the case on Tuesday.

Kolorov had a great game but his crosses at times were not so great either on Tuesday.,even overhit a few times (also on corners. btw, I never understand why we take outswinging corners as Kolorov does from the left side).

We've got some fantastic, really good , young , strong and talented players. We should be grateful for it. Blimey I remember seeing Franny Lee stub the pitch loads of times ( sometimes looked like a foul too )

[Crossie]

I always thought out swinging corners favoured the attacking team. Faster and lower, meeting the head on a player facing towards goal creates more to pace to head back into the net.

If you swing in, the ball ends up curling towards goal, and potentially curving away from a jumping attackers head, making it harder to get good pace and angle on the header.

I might be wrong.

I also think Elephants playing football is a fucking philistine thing to enjoy, although I'm sure the elephant really had a natural urge to kick a ball around, just for fun, obviously it wasn't starved to near death until it learnt how to do that........... One day it'll trample the fuckers to death for exploiting it. Karma's a bitch.

[FA cup winners 2006]

When some on here criticise Dzeko for his first touch being poor.....

Well here goes.....

1. He is a striker and must accept the way the ball is played to him. I remember on Tuesday Yaya rocketing a pass to him in the second half almost at stomach height. Not surprisingly ( two 'R's remember), Dzeko wasn't able to control it. In the lone striker role ( if that really was what he was playing on Tuesday), the player must not only be able to stop the ball however it's played to him, but also must at times, shield the ball. Oftentimes with his back to the goal.

Midfielders i think, have it a bit easier. Either they play a straight one-two or can run onto the ball. even go on mazy dribbling runs like our little god, El David and even Yaya likes to dribble.

A punt upfield from Joe is a 50-50 ball anyway and most of those passes that get peddled around in midfield and at the back are not critical passes(but make your pass completion stats look great! ), as compared to the ball being played into the oppositions box, a situation that Dzeko must deal with under pressure (usually).

2. To actually start picking holes in players when we're top of the league and doing well in most competitions so far, is unbelievable !
Sure , not everything goes perfectly to plan but we still are unbeaten in the league and but for a weak referee in the Allianz area, ( two defo pens , imo), we could have got something from it.

To say Dzeko is not in form is also a joke. I watched him play the full 90 minutes in Paris last week and he had a very good game. He had a difficult game in Bayern that's all . As has been pointed out elsewhere, at least he's always there or thereabouts when the goals are being scored as was the case on Tuesday.

Kolorov had a great game but his crosses at times were not so great either on Tuesday.,even overhit a few times (also on corners. btw, I never understand why we take outswinging corners as Kolorov does from the left side).

We've got some fantastic, really good , young , strong and talented players. We should be grateful for it. Blimey I remember seeing Franny Lee stub the pitch loads of times ( sometimes looked like a foul too )

sometimes the best time to pick holes in someones game is when we are going well as there is time to get it right. Dzeko had a stinker on tuesday, his 1st touch was brutal and he did not show any of the attributes of a lone striker. We shouldn't blind ourselves with just bare stats without looking deeper into them. it was not just on tuesday were his touch was questionable, can't remember who it was against but in 1 game he completely missed the ball when trying to control a light pass on the ground (the one where it rolled to barry and it just missed the top corner.

For me ballo is now nr. 1 top striker (counting sergio as a deep lying striker) and must start the derby, although not a typical lone striker he can drop off and be more involved in the build up than dzeko.

what really gets me is that we have a potentially perfect line striker out on loan at spurs

[stommy]

- 1st league place

- champsleague...not bad standing

and there are some never satisfied people....yes Dzeko was awful vs Villareal, but is he the only one??? one game goes wrong and for all of you critics is Edin the first to blame for...I'm sick of your "touch" "pace" etc. talking.

You're not wrong at all, these are his weak points, but after every game that he plays not as well as your football experts wanted to, always the same posts.

The lad's here, he's getting paid and HE PLAYS at least....some of them don't

[Duckman]

it was one of those days for him, I dont doubt his ability.

BUT, am I the only one to see Džeko doing a bit of diving when in villareal penalty area?

No mate, I saw it too - I THINK it was Dzeko's way of saying I'm playing shite but could still get something for the team if I fall over and convince the ref. I hope his form picks up so he doesn't do it again though because it's not nice to see.

He did it over near the touch line as well looking for a free kick after the slightest nudge whereas if he'd got hold of the ball we were in a decent attacking position.

I understand that professional footballers, generally, are fucking machines with unbearable desire to win, thus are ready to do whatever it takes, especially when not playing good enough and nothing goes their way.

But I just don't like to see that.

Still, I ain't saying I wouldn't be kinda happy if something like that get us over.

it seems that it almost never happens in EPL games?!?

[Blue Since 76]

- 1st league place

- champsleague...not bad standing

and there are some never satisfied people....yes Dzeko was awful vs Villareal, but is he the only one??? one game goes wrong and for all of you critics is Edin the first to blame for...I'm sick of your "touch" "pace" etc. talking.

You're not wrong at all, these are his weak points, but after every game that he plays not as well as your football experts wanted to, always the same posts.

The lad's here, he's getting paid and HE PLAYS at least....some of them don't

Thing is, he's been pretty poor in every game he's played. He looked great in the spurs game, so there's something there, but without that glimmer of hope he'd be completely labelled a flop. Even now I'm wondering how much of his success was down to poor spurs defending as he's looked nowhere near that since.

With no Herman, he needs to step it up as we need strikers we can rely on. Mario has improved, Edin needs to too and very quickly

[stommy]

- 1st league place

- champsleague...not bad standing

and there are some never satisfied people....yes Dzeko was awful vs Villareal, but is he the only one??? one game goes wrong and for all of you critics is Edin the first to blame for...I'm sick of your "touch" "pace" etc. talking.

You're not wrong at all, these are his weak points, but after every game that he plays not as well as your football experts wanted to, always the same posts.

The lad's here, he's getting paid and HE PLAYS at least....some of them don't

Thing is, he's been pretty poor in every game he's played. He looked great in the spurs game, so there's something there, but without that glimmer of hope he'd be completely labelled a flop. Even now I'm wondering how much of his success was down to poor spurs defending as he's looked nowhere near that since.

With no Herman, he needs to step it up as we need strikers we can rely on. Mario has improved, Edin needs to too and very quickly

Completly agree with you with the improvement part, but to be honest he wasn'n poor in every game but the spurs. The fact that he didn't always score is NOT the same.
I'm really angry about his bad performances and he has to change that to earn his place in the first eleven, but all I'm saying when a game goes wrong there are no 11 Dzekos on the pitch, remember that...

[Slim]

I think he needs a friend. Either Yaya or Aguero playing near him to take some of the heat from him and allow him at times to run off the defensive line and pick the ball up deeper. He looks good given some time on the ball and with his back to goal and under pressure, usually from two centrehalves, he doesn't. His size makes you think he should be an Emile Heskey lump able to fend off defenders, but I don't think he is that sort of player and Mancini needs to make adjustments to the way he is utilised. It's not all about Dzeko making himself into something he isn't, we bought Dzeko for Dzeko, not for the player we wanted him to be. If you want that, you buy the 17 year old Lukaku and mold him not an established striker who is established for a particular style of play.

[stommy]

I think he needs a friend. Either Yaya or Aguero playing near him to take some of the heat from him and allow him at times to run off the defensive line and pick the ball up deeper. He looks good given some time on the ball and with his back to goal and under pressure, usually from two centrehalves, he doesn't. His size makes you think he should be an Emile Heskey lump able to fend off defenders, but I don't think he is that sort of player and Mancini needs to make adjustments to the way he is utilised. It's not all about Dzeko making himself into something he isn't, we bought Dzeko for Dzeko, not for the player we wanted him to be. If you want that, you buy the 17 year old Lukaku and mold him not an established striker who is established for a particular style of play.

Wow, a rational football expert-like post, without a trace of sarcasm....Slim is that really you:))

[Kladze]

I think he needs a friend. Either Yaya or Aguero playing near him to take some of the heat from him and allow him at times to run off the defensive line and pick the ball up deeper. He looks good given some time on the ball and with his back to goal and under pressure, usually from two centrehalves, he doesn't. His size makes you think he should be an Emile Heskey lump able to fend off defenders, but I don't think he is that sort of player and Mancini needs to make adjustments to the way he is utilised. It's not all about Dzeko making himself into something he isn't, we bought Dzeko for Dzeko, not for the player we wanted him to be. If you want that, you buy the 17 year old Lukaku and mold him not an established striker who is established for a particular style of play.

I'm tempted to agree with this because, on the face of it, it all seems perfectly reasonable. However, it's also true that every player (other than the extremely long in tooth) should be seeking to improve aspects of their game which may be a weakness, to succeed in the premier league in any big way and with consistency Edin simply HAS to learn to use his physique better.

[Original Dub]

I think he needs a friend. Either Yaya or Aguero playing near him to take some of the heat from him and allow him at times to run off the defensive line and pick the ball up deeper. He looks good given some time on the ball and with his back to goal and under pressure, usually from two centrehalves, he doesn't. His size makes you think he should be an Emile Heskey lump able to fend off defenders, but I don't think he is that sort of player and Mancini needs to make adjustments to the way he is utilised. It's not all about Dzeko making himself into something he isn't, we bought Dzeko for Dzeko, not for the player we wanted him to be. If you want that, you buy the 17 year old Lukaku and mold him not an established striker who is established for a particular style of play.

Well said marie.

With you all the way.

[Beefymcfc]

I think he needs a friend. Either Yaya or Aguero playing near him to take some of the heat from him and allow him at times to run off the defensive line and pick the ball up deeper. He looks good given some time on the ball and with his back to goal and under pressure, usually from two centrehalves, he doesn't. His size makes you think he should be an Emile Heskey lump able to fend off defenders, but I don't think he is that sort of player and Mancini needs to make adjustments to the way he is utilised. It's not all about Dzeko making himself into something he isn't, we bought Dzeko for Dzeko, not for the player we wanted him to be. If you want that, you buy the 17 year old Lukaku and mold him not an established striker who is established for a particular style of play.

So, you do read my posts ;-)

Good analysis mate.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Fair play to him today, two goals at OT will do him the world of confidence. Could of been 4 mind!

[BlueinBosnia]

Fair play to him today, two goals at OT will do him the world of confidence. Could of been 4 mind!

Exactly. Couldn't agree more.

[Dameerto]

Good management yet again - protecting the yellow carded Mario and giving Dzeko a chance to get over his previous poor performance.

[Arjan Van Schotte]

Good management yet again - protecting the yellow carded Mario and giving Dzeko a chance to get over his previous poor performance.

plus, he is wewll fit