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Re: Dzeko

Postby 1950 » Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:31 pm

Arjan Van Schotte wrote:
Dameerto wrote:Good management yet again - protecting the yellow carded Mario and giving Dzeko a chance to get over his previous poor performance.


plus, he is wewll fit


for an elephant.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby dazby » Sun Oct 23, 2011 5:59 pm

I'd actually have preferred him to have scored the one he missed and missed the one he scored. If you know what I mean.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby stommy » Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:06 pm

dazby wrote:I'd actually have preferred him to have scored the one he missed and missed the one he scored. If you know what I mean.


seriously? :)))

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Re: Dzeko

Postby CityFanFromRome » Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:04 pm

Dzeko's job is made of two things mostly; be in positions to score and then put the ball into the net, and help the team build attacking moves by holding up the ball and then passing it to the oncoming teammates when we do kick it long. He's doing well the first most of the time, as he's scored lots so far and he's often in positions to score even when he doesn't, so he's a constant threat to the opposition; he's doing the second far less well, but I think that's something which, despite his size, is not exactly part of his abilities; he might learn to do it better than now or not, but if he keeps scoring like he's done so far bar a couple bad games, he's fine by me.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Original Dub » Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:13 pm

I think the shite striker with the touch of an elephant is the top scorer for top team in england?

Remember that guy who was proved wrong, but then that proved to be wrong?

I think that has proved to be wrong.

I hope that hasn't confused those of you who aren't fickle tools :)
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Slim » Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:34 am

Original Dub wrote:I think the shite striker with the touch of an elephant is the top scorer for top team in england?

Remember that guy who was proved wrong, but then that proved to be wrong?

I think that has proved to be wrong.

I hope that hasn't confused those of you who aren't fickle tools :)


Like you were wrong about Hughes?
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Original Dub » Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:08 am

Slim wrote:
Like you were wrong about Hughes?


I think hughes is a cunt, but from his time at city I think quite a lot will agree he was sacked too early to judge.

Now go grab your own arguments. I believe rag hater is in the middle of bitch slapping you like the tart you are.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Slim » Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:21 am

Original Dub wrote:
Slim wrote:
Like you were wrong about Hughes?


I think hughes is a cunt, but from his time at city I think quite a lot will agree he was sacked too early to judge.

Now go grab your own arguments. I believe rag hater is in the middle of bitch slapping you like the tart you are.


I severely doubt that is the case.

As for Hughes, he proved from his time and actions at Fulham that it was the right move and we have more than enough to make judgment on.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby john@staustell » Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:02 am

Original Dub wrote:
Slim wrote:
Like you were wrong about Hughes?


I think hughes is a cunt, but from his time at city I think quite a lot will agree he was sacked too early to judge.

Now go grab your own arguments. I believe rag hater is in the middle of bitch slapping you like the tart you are.


At that minute I thought he was sacked too early. But after a few weeks of watching Mancini work with the team it became obvious (to me, not everyone I recall) that we had stepped up a level in class of manager and the club was right.

As for Dzeko - what an annoyng bugger he is! Touch of an elephant as said but always in the positions to score. Always goes for the strike, never touches round the keeper or anything skilful. But plays a percentage game in that way and always knocks in a few out of his chances.

To be honest I think he will be key in beating lesser teams by cricket scores, knocking in the odd couple against United (3 already this season) and keeping us in cups, like he did last season.

Great signing. The key is to be in the right position.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Slim » Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:39 am

john@staustell wrote:To be honest I think he will be key in beating lesser teams by cricket scores, knocking in the odd couple against United (3 already this season) and keeping us in cups, like he did last season.


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Re: Dzeko

Postby dazby » Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:17 am

So John, essentially what you are saying is he'll be useful whenever he plays.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:34 am

Played well. Mind you anyone surrounded by the quality we have would score as many tbh. Imagine how many darren bent would have
He's played better last two gamess but he still should work on his finishing. Against united he could of had 5 if he was a bit more clinical.still behind balo though
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Re: Dzeko

Postby john@staustell » Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:42 am

dazby wrote:So John, essentially what you are saying is he'll be useful whenever he plays.


Yep! Well, usually. But whether he'll be more use than Aguero or Balotelli in a particular match is up to Mancini!

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Re: Dzeko

Postby dbinod » Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:47 am

he scores about 1 in 3 good chances.according to the demand and ability we need, he should be scoring 2 in 3 chances.
even hernandes scores 2 in 3 chances.he cannot be worse then hernandes
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:14 am

dbinod wrote:he scores about 1 in 3 good chances.according to the demand and ability we need, he should be scoring 2 in 3 chances.
even hernandes scores 2 in 3 chances.he cannot be worse then hernandes



I wonder what the reality is about converting chances for top strikers. I would guess that any striker who converts 2 out of 3 will be world class and set staggering records.One of the very top strikers the prem has seen (Andrew Cole) was criticised by the then England manager I seem to recall for needing 9 chances to score a goal.I am sure that's not precise but you get the picture.I have seen Hernandez miss plenty even though clearly he is a quality finisher.I would bet that no striker has EVER had a record of converting 2 out of 3 chances.

There seems to be very vocal negative section towards Dzeko which I find disappointing. There are chances, like last night at Wolves,where he doesnt score and some deem it to be a sitter whilst someone else might say he didn't quite reach it.Fair enough in the game against Villareal where his all round game was shocking but give him a break.His record is excellent, he gets in good positions consistently and will score goals consistently.

If I were just to comment on training and what I see there the best striker we have is Dzeko without a doubt.Both feet and good in the air and always a threat and gets as many tap in scruffy ones as the real quality ones. Mario is good as well but his goals do tend to be more spectacular endless of the scrappy ones.Not seen enough of Aguero yet but and he hasnt scored many .From what I have seen in games though I suspect Aguero will turn out to be the best finisher and mario might be next best but Dzeko is still a very good striker.It just shows the quality we have.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Original Dub » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:29 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Played well. Mind you anyone surrounded by the quality we have would score as many tbh. Imagine how many darren bent would have
He's played better last two gamess but he still should work on his finishing. Against united he could of had 5 if he was a bit more clinical.still behind balo though


Oh shut the fuck up with the "surrounded by the quality" shit. He has scored more goals for the club that has scored more goals than any other in the entire premier league. "He should have scored five against united". Yes, as others tend to do that. Clown.

Stop shite bagging, he is a goal machine and you think he's shite.

Slim, I'm delighted we have mancini now. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. This is a dzeko thread so I don't know why hughes is coming into it... I supported him while he was our manager. I didn't jump from saying he's shit to saying he proved me wrong and then back again.

If the point you were trying to make is that I'm as fickle as this guy who is not impressed with our top scorer then I'm disappointed.

The deluded cunt's opinion is about as steady as wayne bridge's right foot.... Oh, I get that now!

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Re: Dzeko

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:32 am

I think Dzeko is a spectacular finisher but not a reliable finisher. In order to be worth a place in a City starting 11, he needs to have other strings to his bow, which he does have, in spades, but sometimes fails to produce.

Imo, if he busts a gut for the cause, runs his balls off & fights for every ball, he is a fantastic player; world class. When he doesn't, he's only worth a shirt if he scores 2 goals & we have others who can do that. Tbf though, Aguero was as bad 1st half v rags as Dzeko was in the previous game; he was fucking dogshite, but he got away with it due to the rest of the team. When Dzeko came on, he looked like the player he can be; thoughroughly dangerous but likely to miss a few as well as score. he looked better than Aguero.

He actually out paced Evra in a sprint yet we've seen him beaten to the ball by much slower players. That proves he doesn't always push himself hard enough.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:38 am

Ted Hughes wrote:I think Dzeko is a spectacular finisher but not a reliable finisher. In order to be worth a place in a City starting 11, he needs to have other strings to his bow, which he does have, in spades, but sometimes fails to produce.

Imo, if he busts a gut for the cause, runs his balls off & fights for every ball, he is a fantastic player; world class. When he doesn't, he's only worth a shirt if he scores 2 goals & we have others who can do that. Tbf though, Aguero was as bad 1st half v rags as Dzeko was in the previous game; he was fucking dogshite, but he got away with it due to the rest of the team. When Dzeko came on, he looked like the player he can be; thoughroughly dangerous but likely to miss a few as well as score. he looked better than Aguero.

He actually out paced Evra in a sprint yet we've seen him beaten to the ball by much slower players. That proves he doesn't always push himself hard enough.


Come on mate. I know you were not fan of the signing but you have got to give it to him that he has been phenomenal for us this season.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Original Dub » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:49 am

Ted Hughes wrote:I think Dzeko is a spectacular finisher but not a reliable finisher. In order to be worth a place in a City starting 11, he needs to have other strings to his bow, which he does have, in spades, but sometimes fails to produce.

Imo, if he busts a gut for the cause, runs his balls off & fights for every ball, he is a fantastic player; world class. When he doesn't, he's only worth a shirt if he scores 2 goals & we have others who can do that. Tbf though, Aguero was as bad 1st half v rags as Dzeko was in the previous game; he was fucking dogshite, but he got away with it due to the rest of the team. When Dzeko came on, he looked like the player he can be; thoughroughly dangerous but likely to miss a few as well as score. he looked better than Aguero.

He actually out paced Evra in a sprint yet we've seen him beaten to the ball by much slower players. That proves he doesn't always push himself hard enough.


Quite a fair assessment.

I get frustrated watching him in parts and I think alot of that is down to the type of player that he is - a world class crouch... Maybe gomez?

Anyway, he does exactly what mancini has wanted him to do by and large and is almost always in the right positions when the ball comes in from crosses. Even the villareal game he caused that own goal by being in the right place to tap it in had the defender not intercepted. Again, had aguero not reached that tap in, he was right behind him.

I also think he has more strings to his bow and he will improve even more because that what mancini demands. But the same could be said of aguero.

Its all the same whether we have the silky player who takes that one chance and is annonymous for the rest of the game, or the awkward looking forward who seems to have several chances throughout the game but scores only one.

He's not my favourite player...I don't think he's too many people's favourite... But he is a top quality striker and to say he's shite and we'd be better with darren bent is retarded.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:54 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:I think Dzeko is a spectacular finisher but not a reliable finisher. In order to be worth a place in a City starting 11, he needs to have other strings to his bow, which he does have, in spades, but sometimes fails to produce.

Imo, if he busts a gut for the cause, runs his balls off & fights for every ball, he is a fantastic player; world class. When he doesn't, he's only worth a shirt if he scores 2 goals & we have others who can do that. Tbf though, Aguero was as bad 1st half v rags as Dzeko was in the previous game; he was fucking dogshite, but he got away with it due to the rest of the team. When Dzeko came on, he looked like the player he can be; thoughroughly dangerous but likely to miss a few as well as score. he looked better than Aguero.

He actually out paced Evra in a sprint yet we've seen him beaten to the ball by much slower players. That proves he doesn't always push himself hard enough.


Come on mate. I know you were not fan of the signing but you have got to give it to him that he has been phenomenal for us this season.


I had no problem with signing him, just with relying on him without signing someone else. I still have the same opinion now; if Dzeko was our only fit striker we would lose some games we should win. I think he can be better than that & lead the line reliably even if he mises the odd chance. I don't see what's unfair in my comments; I've said how well he's played & also where I think he's not done it.

You think he's been that good in every game? I don't. I think he's alternated between awesome, decent, & utter shite. I personally thought he did ok at Bayern & shouldn't have been taken off but a couple of his performances have been unacceptably poor, when you see what he is capable of. He shouldn't drop his standards that far. Imo it's purely down to his attitude. If he fights for everything, an occasional missed chance isn't a problem, if he doesn't & gives the ball away all the time, then misses, it's not good enough. It's up to him if he wants the job. Bob has already shown what happens if he doesn't reach the level expected.
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