Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

He's been top drawer for Spurs this season, Caught my eye every time I've seen them. To suggest that he is a poor player who doesn't work hard is ridiculous.

Winning this award and various other acolades seems to have brought him a lot of undeserved stick. It seems a lot of people aren't happy with it and are having a pop at him for it. Perhaps he doesn't deserve all the recognition he's getting but that shouldn't cloud people's judgement on a player who is clearly very good at what he does.

Does the dirty work well but offers far more than your everage water carrier. He makes some other players in his position at the top clubs look like pub team players. I'd have him ahead of Song, Lucas, Feltcher and Mikel any day of the week.

He's running Spurs' midfield and is a huge factor in the run they're on.

So would I (apart from Mikel maybe....that's a close contest). Thing is none of the players you mentioned are really that good either imo.

Fair point. However, these players are regularly selected by some of the best managers in the game to play for some of the best teams in the game in the best league in the world. If we agree that Scott Parker is better than them then he can't be all that bad a player, can he?

I don't think I called him bad player. However original question was is he as good as many people say and answer to that is definitely no.

[southaustralianblue]

of course not

[halnone]

He's average at best.

[ronk]

Spurs spend £5m on a 31 year old coming from a relegated team. That shows that he was sought after, but also if he was that desirable there'd have been more interest.

He's a good player, not sure if I'd say he's best in his position at the moment. Then again no one should take a Sky Sports team as definitive.

[Ted Hughes]

He's a more versatile de Jong. I would be very happy to have him in the squad as our token oldie if we didn't already have Hargreaves. Haven't seen many Spurs games this season but I gather he's a large factor in their sustained success.

Still, they are both what I would call "profile players". De Jong is miles better in his basic duty. Parker offers LITTLE more going forward but doesn't dominate nearly as much as De Jong.

Big question is that is there really demand for players like this in TOP clubs anymore. I mean, strikers are asked to be creative and aggressive and defenders are expected to join attacks in top clubs. No matter how good you are doing one thing isn't good enough overall anymore.

I've said before on here that much as I rate DeJong & Barry, in an ideal world their positions would be taken by, for instance, Colin Bell & R** Kea** who could do everything they do, twice as fast, without breaking sweat & also run up & down the pitch for 90 mins, dictate the pace of the game, score goals & make assists. Such players don't seem to exist anymore though. Gerrard should be such a player but somehow he isn't.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

Very good player. Similar to Barry, a lot of his good work goes unnoticed.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

I have just read in another thread that Scott Parker has been included in the squads chosen by SkySports and F365's Team Of The Season So Far. This comes after he was awarded the Football Writer's Player Of The Year last season.

Am I the only person who doesn't understand why the media love this average player so much??

1.)He failed to prevent West Ham being relegated
2.)He doesn't make it into the top 100 of the Player Performance Index
3.)He hasn't scored in the 8 games he has played this season.
4.)The Premier League's own Fantasy Football has him ranked 88th amongst midfield players
5.)He has only provided 1 assist this season (Micah Richards has 4)

So, what's so good about him??

What a stupid, stupid selection of stats.
1.) So what? Good players can be in bad teams.
2.) Oh well point proven then... Not.
3.) He's not a striker.
4.) Because he plays a defensive midfield role, so isn't likely to score much and they only get 1 point for a clean sheet.
5.) He's a defensive midfielder again.


Stats really prove fuck all.

[Ted Hughes]

I have just read in another thread that Scott Parker has been included in the squads chosen by SkySports and F365's Team Of The Season So Far. This comes after he was awarded the Football Writer's Player Of The Year last season.

Am I the only person who doesn't understand why the media love this average player so much??

1.)He failed to prevent West Ham being relegated
2.)He doesn't make it into the top 100 of the Player Performance Index
3.)He hasn't scored in the 8 games he has played this season.
4.)The Premier League's own Fantasy Football has him ranked 88th amongst midfield players
5.)He has only provided 1 assist this season (Micah Richards has 4)

So, what's so good about him??

What a stupid, stupid selection of stats.
1.) So what? Good players can be in bad teams.
2.) Oh well point proven then... Not.
3.) He's not a striker.
4.) Because he plays a defensive midfield role, so isn't likely to score much and they only get 1 point for a clean sheet.
5.) He's a defensive midfielder again.


Stats really prove fuck all.

They don't prove anything but when you look at them, they don't suggest 'great player' & it's quite ridiculous that such a player was voted POTY.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

I have just read in another thread that Scott Parker has been included in the squads chosen by SkySports and F365's Team Of The Season So Far. This comes after he was awarded the Football Writer's Player Of The Year last season.

Am I the only person who doesn't understand why the media love this average player so much??

1.)He failed to prevent West Ham being relegated
2.)He doesn't make it into the top 100 of the Player Performance Index
3.)He hasn't scored in the 8 games he has played this season.
4.)The Premier League's own Fantasy Football has him ranked 88th amongst midfield players
5.)He has only provided 1 assist this season (Micah Richards has 4)

So, what's so good about him??

What a stupid, stupid selection of stats.
1.) So what? Good players can be in bad teams.
2.) Oh well point proven then... Not.
3.) He's not a striker.
4.) Because he plays a defensive midfield role, so isn't likely to score much and they only get 1 point for a clean sheet.
5.) He's a defensive midfielder again.


Stats really prove fuck all.

They don't prove anything but when you look at them, they don't suggest 'great player' & it's quite ridiculous that such a player was voted POTY.

No they don't. How does no goals prove he isn't a great player? He's been so selective with his stats. You could find a bunch of stats to 'suggest' Silva was a crap player if you really tried hard enough. They prove fuck all. By all means say he's overrated but don't base the argument on Fantasy football.

[Ted Hughes]

I have just read in another thread that Scott Parker has been included in the squads chosen by SkySports and F365's Team Of The Season So Far. This comes after he was awarded the Football Writer's Player Of The Year last season.

Am I the only person who doesn't understand why the media love this average player so much??

1.)He failed to prevent West Ham being relegated
2.)He doesn't make it into the top 100 of the Player Performance Index
3.)He hasn't scored in the 8 games he has played this season.
4.)The Premier League's own Fantasy Football has him ranked 88th amongst midfield players
5.)He has only provided 1 assist this season (Micah Richards has 4)

So, what's so good about him??

What a stupid, stupid selection of stats.
1.) So what? Good players can be in bad teams.
2.) Oh well point proven then... Not.
3.) He's not a striker.
4.) Because he plays a defensive midfield role, so isn't likely to score much and they only get 1 point for a clean sheet.
5.) He's a defensive midfielder again.


Stats really prove fuck all.

They don't prove anything but when you look at them, they don't suggest 'great player' & it's quite ridiculous that such a player was voted POTY.

No they don't. How does no goals prove he isn't a great player? He's been so selective with his stats. You could find a bunch of stats to 'suggest' Silva was a crap player if you really tried hard enough. They prove fuck all. By all means say he's overrated but don't base the argument on Fantasy football.

Once again, statistics do not prove anything but the Player Performance Index is not connected to Fantasy football, it is the official ratings system of the Premier League. He is in the top 100 but at about 60 odd. When you put that next to some of his other stats, it doesn't build a picture of a particularly great player.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

I have just read in another thread that Scott Parker has been included in the squads chosen by SkySports and F365's Team Of The Season So Far. This comes after he was awarded the Football Writer's Player Of The Year last season.

Am I the only person who doesn't understand why the media love this average player so much??

1.)He failed to prevent West Ham being relegated
2.)He doesn't make it into the top 100 of the Player Performance Index
3.)He hasn't scored in the 8 games he has played this season.
4.)The Premier League's own Fantasy Football has him ranked 88th amongst midfield players
5.)He has only provided 1 assist this season (Micah Richards has 4)

So, what's so good about him??

What a stupid, stupid selection of stats.
1.) So what? Good players can be in bad teams.
2.) Oh well point proven then... Not.
3.) He's not a striker.
4.) Because he plays a defensive midfield role, so isn't likely to score much and they only get 1 point for a clean sheet.
5.) He's a defensive midfielder again.


Stats really prove fuck all.

They don't prove anything but when you look at them, they don't suggest 'great player' & it's quite ridiculous that such a player was voted POTY.

No they don't. How does no goals prove he isn't a great player? He's been so selective with his stats. You could find a bunch of stats to 'suggest' Silva was a crap player if you really tried hard enough. They prove fuck all. By all means say he's overrated but don't base the argument on Fantasy football.

Once again, statistics do not prove anything but the Player Performance Index is not connected to Fantasy football, it is the official ratings system of the Premier League. He is in the top 100 but at about 60 odd. When you put that next to some of his other stats, it doesn't build a picture of a particularly great player.

Well neither does Barry's or Dejong's but they're very good players. The OP is simply judging Parker of crappy stats.

[Ted Hughes]

I should imagine KK has seen Parker play just as often as you have & is just using the stats to back up the impression he gets from seeing him play, as am I.

[Bridge'srightfoot]

I should imagine KK has seen Parker play just as often as you have & is just using the stats to back up the impression he gets from seeing him play, as am I.

You could use stats to justify any point. If he's gonna use stats, then get some meaningful ones, not how many goals he's scored or how good Fantasy football reckons he is.
The OP often makes points and backs them up with extremely selective stats which mean fuck all.

[Chinners]

I personally think he's just one of those players that is very very good and should have had the chance at a top/better club about 5 years ago to reach his potential. Basically he's left it a bit late but might still end up being the cream. I think Spurs have made a good but not spectacular signing. Good luck to the fella I say ...

[Soccergal8611]

Totally overayed

[Slim]

I should imagine KK has seen Parker play just as often as you have & is just using the stats to back up the impression he gets from seeing him play, as am I.

Wait wait wait, you've seen him play and you don't rate him?

I am fairly certain that KK is on a windup as it's an international weekend and the board needs someone to kick over a rock, but you have seen him play and don't rate him? Oh that's just sad.

[Alioune DVToure]

Totally overayed

Like this fella?

[King Kev]

I have just read in another thread that Scott Parker has been included in the squads chosen by SkySports and F365's Team Of The Season So Far. This comes after he was awarded the Football Writer's Player Of The Year last season.

Am I the only person who doesn't understand why the media love this average player so much??

1.)He failed to prevent West Ham being relegated
2.)He doesn't make it into the top 100 of the Player Performance Index
3.)He hasn't scored in the 8 games he has played this season.
4.)The Premier League's own Fantasy Football has him ranked 88th amongst midfield players
5.)He has only provided 1 assist this season (Micah Richards has 4)

So, what's so good about him??

What a stupid, stupid selection of stats.
1.) So what? Good players can be in bad teams. True
2.) Oh well point proven then... Not. Sarcastic replies do not make the facts any less valid.
3.) He's not a striker. Can only strikers score goals? Somebody had better tell Lampard, Yaya, Van Der Vaart, etc etc
4.) Because he plays a defensive midfield role, so isn't likely to score much and they only get 1 point for a clean sheet. Plenty of defensive midfielders (and defenders) create chances, score goals and help to keep clean sheets, so why can't Super Scotty do any of these?
5.) He's a defensive midfielder again. Micah Richards plays in defence but still creates chances for his team-mates, hence the comparison


Stats really prove fuck all. True, all stats are pointless, for example City have more points than any other team in the league but that means nothing; Slva has more assists than anybody else, doesn't make him a good player; we beat the scum 6-1, but that doesn't mean we are a better team, etc, etc

[LookMumImOnMCF.net]

In other words, What Does Scott Parker Actually Do?

[Slim]

You are SO on the windup.

BTW, Nasri has 6 assists to Silva's 7. Therefore he must have created just as much from midfield as Silva, right? Agbonlahor also 6, what a wonderful creative player he is, City should sign him to replace Aguero, afterall he only has 3.