Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby bluej » Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:52 am

Beefymcfc wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:Above, no, strike that, average player who the media have a love for. Now he's at the perfect club for them to continue there wank-fest for all that is Scotty Parker.

Similar to the ignorant view other teams fans have of Barry. Just because he doesn't score a lot or do anything fancy they assume he's crap. Parker like Barry does the dirty work and simple stuff exceptionally well.


What a fucking arrogant view. You think you are the only one who understand what defensive/holding midfielder does?

You know what, I played in that very same position for about a decade in very decent youth level, being inches away from getting U17 national side back in the day. Now I'm not saying I was some fucking Patrick Vieira but I DO think I have basic understanding of the demands of that position.

So fuck your stupid media recycling comments of "people don't understand what he does for the team". Football isn't complicated game really and I'm sure most people who who follow football regularily, which you would assume is the case with most people here, do understand what Gareth Barry and Scott Parker are supposed to do to their respective teams. I must've seen Scott Parker play close to 100 times in his career. I've seen him live for Charlton, Newcastle and West Ham. And I'm saying he is slitghly above average Premier League defensive midfielder. That is my OPINION. You might disagree with that, it's a game of opinions, but there's nothing ignorant about my OPINION.

I wasn't referring to you personally.
What I'm saying is a lot of my non City friends tend to think Barry is a bit shit. It's only really City fans mainly who really rate him because we watch him week in week out. He's not a spectacular player who scores great goals or defence splitting passes consistently and therefore you're not gonna watch a few games of him and think 'what a brilliant player'.

Parker likewise does that for Spurs, and just look how much they have improved since he's been in the team.

And that's a load of horse-shit as well. I don't know who you are talking to but the majority of the people I talk to know that Barry is a quality player and it's more our fans who have held the opinion that he is slow and clumbersome, but still a good player.

Did the Villa fans want to see the back of him? Didn't the Dippers get pissed off when he changed allegiances?

I just wonder if these fans you talk to adorne themselves in red?


To be fair to BRF, a lot of my (non rag supporting) mates don't rate Barry as well.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Ted Hughes » Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:09 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:but it isn't. He's a defensive midfielder. He's not in the team to get goals so why mention it? It adds nothing to the argument. It's like lambasting a striker because the team let a goal in.
It's not a part of his game which is lacking because he doesn't need to get goals or assists. Spurs have plenty of players capabale of that and Parker is in the team to allow them to do so.



Both Barry and Parker are only called 'defensive' midfielders because they're not good enough to contribute significantly in other areas; they are good at breaking up play & giving the ball to someone better. Imo, Barry is just about the best in the Prem at doing this because of his fantastic reading of the game & occasionally creates scores. Parker is an ok player in that position but vastly overrated.

However, if Colin Bell & Roy K***e were available, they would break up play just as well as Barry & Parker but still score goals & make assists & be quick/intelligent enough to get back & do their defensive jobs. Therefore, showing the stats of goals/assists re a so called defensive midfielder is perfectly valid. If there are two players with the same defensive qualities but one scores 20 goals a season, you sign the one who scores the 20 goals.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby King Kev » Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:07 pm

Super Scotty v Merlin this afternoon.

This could be amusing...

Unless SS injures David with one of his clumsy challenges.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby King Kev » Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:00 pm

Man of The Match!!

Well done Scotty!
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Wonderwall » Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:15 pm

thought he played well but milner was my motm
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:18 pm

Brilliant tonight and very much held his own against a world class midfield. He's a quality player.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Alioune DVToure » Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:24 pm

Lescott, Jagielka, Parker and Milner were brilliant tonight.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby brite blu sky » Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:51 pm

If that was motm performance then something somewhere has gone wrong. Directly passed to a Spain player 5 times, twice when there was a simple obvious pass begging that would have released a move. Constantly slow to release the ball, losing the impetous.
Hopeless. Ran around a lot and got a couple of decent challenges in. Far less than Lescott did, it should be pointed out.

If that was what some people call brilliant, I don't know what fucking crap would be!
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Hazy2 » Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:19 pm

Parker, had a good game.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:27 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:but it isn't. He's a defensive midfielder. He's not in the team to get goals so why mention it? It adds nothing to the argument. It's like lambasting a striker because the team let a goal in.
It's not a part of his game which is lacking because he doesn't need to get goals or assists. Spurs have plenty of players capabale of that and Parker is in the team to allow them to do so.



Both Barry and Parker are only called 'defensive' midfielders because they're not good enough to contribute significantly in other areas; they are good at breaking up play & giving the ball to someone better. Imo, Barry is just about the best in the Prem at doing this because of his fantastic reading of the game & occasionally creates scores. Parker is an ok player in that position but vastly overrated.

However, if Colin Bell & Roy K***e were available, they would break up play just as well as Barry & Parker but still score goals & make assists & be quick/intelligent enough to get back & do their defensive jobs. Therefore, showing the stats of goals/assists re a so called defensive midfielder is perfectly valid. If there are two players with the same defensive qualities but one scores 20 goals a season, you sign the one who scores the 20 goals.



He's a 'defensive midfielder'. He's not in the team to score goals, any goals he gets are a bonus and shouldn't be used to judge him. If he got 20 a season he wouldn't be played in a defensive role. Having players like him in the team allows players such as Lampard and VDV a license to attack. It isn't valid to compare the number of goals and assists. How many goals did Dejong get last season? Most people would still say he was class though.
He was superb tonight and got MOTM against Spain as well as keeping a clean sheet for the side. There's a stat for you.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Alioune DVToure » Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:30 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:but it isn't. He's a defensive midfielder. He's not in the team to get goals so why mention it? It adds nothing to the argument. It's like lambasting a striker because the team let a goal in.
It's not a part of his game which is lacking because he doesn't need to get goals or assists. Spurs have plenty of players capabale of that and Parker is in the team to allow them to do so.



Both Barry and Parker are only called 'defensive' midfielders because they're not good enough to contribute significantly in other areas; they are good at breaking up play & giving the ball to someone better. Imo, Barry is just about the best in the Prem at doing this because of his fantastic reading of the game & occasionally creates scores. Parker is an ok player in that position but vastly overrated.

However, if Colin Bell & Roy K***e were available, they would break up play just as well as Barry & Parker but still score goals & make assists & be quick/intelligent enough to get back & do their defensive jobs. Therefore, showing the stats of goals/assists re a so called defensive midfielder is perfectly valid. If there are two players with the same defensive qualities but one scores 20 goals a season, you sign the one who scores the 20 goals.



He's a 'defensive midfielder'. He's not in the team to score goals, any goals he gets are a bonus and shouldn't be used to judge him. If he got 20 a season he wouldn't be played in a defensive role. Having players like him in the team allows players such as Lampard and VDV a license to attack. It isn't valid to compare the number of goals and assists. How many goals did Dejong get last season? Most people would still say he was class though.
He was superb tonight and got MOTM against Spain as well as keeping a clean sheet for the side. There's a stat for you.


Please change the fucking record! Even when you make some reasonable points - this thread being an example - you insist on banging on and on about it, hoping to get in 'the last word' like some 9 year-old schoolchild. You've not said anything new since about page 3, and I'm pretty sure people are just encouraging you now for their own amusement. Seriously - know when to let it go.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby LookMumImOnMCF.net » Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:02 am

Parker was amazing today. Suggest some of you stop trying to lick kk's ballsack and get your own opinions.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:56 am

LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:Parker was amazing today. Sugges some of you stop trying to lick kk1's


Amazing ? If getting in the occasional tackle in a team full of defenders & getting caught in possession in your own half on several occasions is 'amazing' I think I'll chuck in watching football.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby LookMumImOnMCF.net » Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:04 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:Parker was amazing today. Sugges some of you stop trying to lick kk1's


Amazing ? If getting in the occasional tackle in a team full of defenders & getting caught in possession in your own half on several occasions is 'amazing' I think I'll chuck in watching football.

Was posting on a phone which is more difficult than I imagined.

Didn't read the main point of your post. As you post fifteen million times a day they all merge in to one monotonous drivel for me.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Kladze » Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:07 am

LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:Parker was amazing today. Sugges some of you stop trying to lick kk1's


Amazing ? If getting in the occasional tackle in a team full of defenders & getting caught in possession in your own half on several occasions is 'amazing' I think I'll chuck in watching football.

Was posting on a phone which is more difficult than I imagined.

Didn't read the main point of your post. As you post fifteen million times a day they all merge in to one monotonous drivel for me.


Which is something of a fucking improvement on reading just ONE of your posts pal.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:17 am

LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:Parker was amazing today. Sugges some of you stop trying to lick kk1's


Amazing ? If getting in the occasional tackle in a team full of defenders & getting caught in possession in your own half on several occasions is 'amazing' I think I'll chuck in watching football.

Was posting on a phone which is more difficult than I imagined.

Didn't read the main point of your post. As you post fifteen million times a day they all merge in to one monotonous drivel for me.


I'm deeply hurt.

I rate you so highly as a poster, my main reason for being on here is to impress you.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby King Kev » Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:13 am

LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:Parker was amazing today. Suggest some of you stop trying to lick kk's ballsack and get your own opinions.

He had a good (not amazing) game in a friendly match, let's not get carried away.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby john@staustell » Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:23 am

To be honest a defensive backs-to-the-wall set-up suits Parker ideally. Made for him.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:24 am

Alioune DVToure wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:but it isn't. He's a defensive midfielder. He's not in the team to get goals so why mention it? It adds nothing to the argument. It's like lambasting a striker because the team let a goal in.
It's not a part of his game which is lacking because he doesn't need to get goals or assists. Spurs have plenty of players capabale of that and Parker is in the team to allow them to do so.



Both Barry and Parker are only called 'defensive' midfielders because they're not good enough to contribute significantly in other areas; they are good at breaking up play & giving the ball to someone better. Imo, Barry is just about the best in the Prem at doing this because of his fantastic reading of the game & occasionally creates scores. Parker is an ok player in that position but vastly overrated.

However, if Colin Bell & Roy K***e were available, they would break up play just as well as Barry & Parker but still score goals & make assists & be quick/intelligent enough to get back & do their defensive jobs. Therefore, showing the stats of goals/assists re a so called defensive midfielder is perfectly valid. If there are two players with the same defensive qualities but one scores 20 goals a season, you sign the one who scores the 20 goals.



He's a 'defensive midfielder'. He's not in the team to score goals, any goals he gets are a bonus and shouldn't be used to judge him. If he got 20 a season he wouldn't be played in a defensive role. Having players like him in the team allows players such as Lampard and VDV a license to attack. It isn't valid to compare the number of goals and assists. How many goals did Dejong get last season? Most people would still say he was class though.
He was superb tonight and got MOTM against Spain as well as keeping a clean sheet for the side. There's a stat for you.


Please change the fucking record! Even when you make some reasonable points - this thread being an example - you insist on banging on and on about it, hoping to get in 'the last word' like some 9 year-old schoolchild. You've not said anything new since about page 3, and I'm pretty sure people are just encouraging you now for their own amusement. Seriously - know when to let it go.

He's a 'defensive midfielder'. He's not in the team to score goals, any goals he gets are a bonus and shouldn't be used to judge him. If he got 20 a season he wouldn't be played in a defensive role. Having players like him in the team allows players such as Lampard and VDV a license to attack. It isn't valid to compare the number of goals and assists. How many goals did Dejong get last season? Most people would still say he was class though.
He was superb tonight and got MOTM against Spain as well as keeping a clean sheet for the side. There's a stat for you.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Slim » Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:32 am

King Kev wrote:
LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:Parker was amazing today. Suggest some of you stop trying to lick kk's ballsack and get your own opinions.

He had a good (not amazing) game in a friendly match, let's not get carried away.


Not as good as the media make out, not as bad as some of the opinions on here.

How's that?
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