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[Bridge'srightfoot]

Who do you think is a better footballer Tevez or aguerro? Excluding off field factors.

Aguero is a better technical player than Tevez & a better finisher imo but so far on average, in his alround game, hasn't performed anywhere near Tevez' level from last season. It's been masked by the quality of the team & the moments of sheer brilliance he has produced but on the whole Aguero hasn't actually played that well in quite a few games. The difference is; we needed Tevez desperately last season. This season the others have stepped up a level. If you look at Aguero's 1st half performance v the rags for example, he stank the place out but nobody noticed because we were doing a job on them.

A fully fit/focused Tevez would have been fantastic in this team & played as much as anybody, especially whilst Aguero settles in.

It's a gret pity that he's decided to be an arsehole rather than do his job.

Agreed. Aguerro often seems to be right on the periphery of games whereas Tevez was always at the heart of them. The other thing about Tevez is that he wasn't amazingly quick, strong or technical but he had enough of everything to ensure he was truly world class.

That's the worst thing about this whole saga, we've lost a genuine world class player thorough no fault of our own.

[Blue Since 76]

Aguero is a better technical player than Tevez & a better finisher imo but so far on average, in his alround game, hasn't performed anywhere near Tevez' level from last season. It's been masked by the quality of the team & the moments of sheer brilliance he has produced but on the whole Aguero hasn't actually played that well in quite a few games. The difference is; we needed Tevez desperately last season. This season the others have stepped up a level. If you look at Aguero's 1st half performance v the rags for example, he stank the place out but nobody noticed because we were doing a job on them.

A fully fit/focused Tevez would have been fantastic in this team & played as much as anybody, especially whilst Aguero settles in.

It's a gret pity that he's decided to be an arsehole rather than do his job.

Don't think the team could play how it is doing with him in the side though. He demanded the ball and that the play wen through him. The team grew as a team last season during the semi-final when they realised they'd have to do it for themselves and they've got better ever since. If he could fit into that ethic, we'd be I beatable. The skill, interchanging and pace we've seen at times with a Tasmanian devil up front would be fantastic. But he's not a team player, never has been and I just don't see it working.

[Ted Hughes]

Aguero is a better technical player than Tevez & a better finisher imo but so far on average, in his alround game, hasn't performed anywhere near Tevez' level from last season. It's been masked by the quality of the team & the moments of sheer brilliance he has produced but on the whole Aguero hasn't actually played that well in quite a few games. The difference is; we needed Tevez desperately last season. This season the others have stepped up a level. If you look at Aguero's 1st half performance v the rags for example, he stank the place out but nobody noticed because we were doing a job on them.

A fully fit/focused Tevez would have been fantastic in this team & played as much as anybody, especially whilst Aguero settles in.

It's a gret pity that he's decided to be an arsehole rather than do his job.

Don't think the team could play how it is doing with him in the side though. He demanded the ball and that the play wen through him. The team grew as a team last season during the semi-final when they realised they'd have to do it for themselves and they've got better ever since. If he could fit into that ethic, we'd be I beatable. The skill, interchanging and pace we've seen at times with a Tasmanian devil up front would be fantastic. But he's not a team player, never has been and I just don't see it working.

I don't think Tevez has any problem playing as part of a team personally. I don't know where the idea comes from. I would imagine Balotelli or Dzeko are more likely to lose the ball during a move than Tevez. He has been playing pass & move with Argentina for years & often sacrifices his position to drop deep & make it work when some balloon like Maradona picks a totally unbalanced team.

I think he would have given us another threat to break down the Napolis etc with sheer endeavour but we'll never know now.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Aguero is a better technical player than Tevez & a better finisher imo but so far on average, in his alround game, hasn't performed anywhere near Tevez' level from last season. It's been masked by the quality of the team & the moments of sheer brilliance he has produced but on the whole Aguero hasn't actually played that well in quite a few games. The difference is; we needed Tevez desperately last season. This season the others have stepped up a level. If you look at Aguero's 1st half performance v the rags for example, he stank the place out but nobody noticed because we were doing a job on them.

A fully fit/focused Tevez would have been fantastic in this team & played as much as anybody, especially whilst Aguero settles in.

It's a gret pity that he's decided to be an arsehole rather than do his job.

Don't think the team could play how it is doing with him in the side though. He demanded the ball and that the play wen through him. The team grew as a team last season during the semi-final when they realised they'd have to do it for themselves and they've got better ever since. If he could fit into that ethic, we'd be I beatable. The skill, interchanging and pace we've seen at times with a Tasmanian devil up front would be fantastic. But he's not a team player, never has been and I just don't see it working.

I don't think Tevez has any problem playing as part of a team personally. I don't know where the idea comes from. I would imagine Balotelli or Dzeko are more likely to lose the ball during a move than Tevez. He has been playing pass & move with Argentina for years & often sacrifices his position to drop deep & make it work when some balloon like Maradona picks a totally unbalanced team.

I think he would have given us another threat to break down the Napolis etc with sheer endeavour but we'll never know now.

Dont agree.

Tevez is a greedy little shit and barely ever passes the ball when he gets to the edge of the box...Aguero..Ballo...Dzeko all pass more than him.

And even if the above was a load of Bollocks..Tevez can go FUCK HIMSELF...Ill be fucked if I will give him any credit at all..for anything....EVER....little drop of phlegm he is.

[Original Dub]

Agreed. Aguerro often seems to be right on the periphery of games whereas Tevez was always at the heart of them. The other thing about Tevez is that he wasn't amazingly quick, strong or technical but he had enough of everything to ensure he was truly world class.

That's the worst thing about this whole saga, we've lost a genuine world class player thorough no fault of our own.

Bang on. The cunt. Such a shame.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Aguero or Tevez?
Well from what I've seen so far Tevez is streets ahead. He is a great player, what a shame he is such a helmet.

[Beefymcfc]

How long did it take for us to see the best of Tevez?

[john@staustell]

Aguero or Tevez?
Well from what I've seen so far Tevez is streets ahead. He is a great player, what a shame he is such a helmet.

Not that simple mate. Tevez is less of a team player, because he hogs the ball and goes off at strange angles, or loses it. We wouldn't have played the same football this year with him in the side.

Tevez had played two years in our league before he came to us. Argie watchers say Agüero is better and that next season he will be immense. As if his goal ratio isn't any good already!!

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Aguero or Tevez?
Well from what I've seen so far Tevez is streets ahead. He is a great player, what a shame he is such a helmet.

Not that simple mate. Tevez is less of a team player, because he hogs the ball and goes off at strange angles, or loses it. We wouldn't have played the same football this year with him in the side.

Tevez had played two years in our league before he came to us. Argie watchers say Agüero is better and that next season he will be immense. As if his goal ratio isn't any good already!!

I'm not suggesting that Sergio won't get better or that he won't in time be a better player than Tevez, but Carlos has been exceptional for us. He has many faults as is plain to see, not least this present fiasco, but for two seasons he has been a very fine player. If Aguero does turn out even better, then City will have benefitted greatly

[Foreverinbluedreams]

How long did it take for us to see the best of Tevez?

Liverpool game at Anfield, can't be arsed checking the date but Hughes had benched him for the game and when he brought him on the game went from being a dull 0-0 stalemate to a 2-2 draw thanks to his introduction. He gave us a lethal goal threat but fucked up our shape.

[Bianchi on Ice]

I'm stating the obvious but Tevez's antics are overshadowing the entire season....his lack of professionalism is astounding.

[Kladze]

I'm stating the obvious but Tevez's antics are overshadowing the entire season....his lack of professionalism is astounding.

I don't agree with that.

The form and results from the team are actually overshadowing the whole Tevez saga imo.

[Bianchi on Ice]

I'm stating the obvious but Tevez's antics are overshadowing the entire season....his lack of professionalism is astounding.

I don't agree with that.

The form and results from the team are actually overshadowing the whole Tevez saga imo.

Perhaps I'm being a drama queen Kladze but even if this sorry affair seems just a sideshow Its a shame he's behaving this way. At least the window is close now, he can take his bed, make it, and lie in it somewhere else!

[Kladze]

I'm stating the obvious but Tevez's antics are overshadowing the entire season....his lack of professionalism is astounding.

I don't agree with that.

The form and results from the team are actually overshadowing the whole Tevez saga imo.

Perhaps I'm being a drama queen Kladze but even if this sorry affair seems just a sideshow Its a shame he's behaving this way. At least the window is close now, he can take his bed, make it, and lie in it somewhere else!

Oh don't misunderstand me BOI . It's a great pity all this shit is happening - but imagine how much worse it would seem if our form and performances were indifferent.

As it stands, even a fully fit and functioning Tevez would have problems holding down a guaranteed starting place.

[Ted Hughes]

It's not overshadowing the season, it's just a freak on a sideshow, at which people take a puzzled look whilst they wait for the big stars to appear.

[BlueinBosnia]

With him being away and 'not available' for games, does it mean that he can no longer cancel his contract on sporting grounds due to the '10% of all matches' clause? I'd guess this is so if he misses 2 or 3 games due to his apparent breakdown.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

With him being away and 'not available' for games, does it mean that he can no longer cancel his contract on sporting grounds due to the '10% of all matches' clause? I'd guess this is so if he misses 2 or 3 games due to his apparent breakdown.

By refusing to respond to a reasonable request to apologise for a wrongdoing that he has effectively admitted to he has already waived his right to terminate his contract on a 'sporting just cause' plea.

[Beefymcfc]

I miss Carlos, it's making me depressed.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Go play a round of golf Beefy. Apparently it's helping T***z overcome his depression if you believe the latest reports, it might work for you too.

[Blue Since 76]

It's not overshadowing the season, it's just a freak on a sideshow, at which people take a puzzled look whilst they wait for the big stars to appear.

I actually think the sideshow is helping. The press have so much interest in that they're not putting pressure on the team to perform or win the league. As long as it only distracts the press and not Mancini or the players, it won't do any harm and could do some good. Plus, we could win the league without our 'best' player. Impressive no matter how much you've spent