Ted Hughes wrote:Martin samuel is quality & has no agenda; breath of fresh air.
The thing is; so many fans of teams such as Everton, Villa etc have been reading this bullshit about FFP, looking at City & going "ha ha ha...that will fuck them up.."
No, we will get around it but all of you lot are condemned to mediocrity for the rest of eternity unless you manage to get the rules changed back, you stupid jealous bastards. We don't mind if you get an influx of money & compete with us, it's wankers like Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal & the foreign elite clubs who are trying to fuck you over with this, not us. With FFP YOU are fucked, not us, our backers are too big to be stopped this way.
Talk about turkeys voting for Christmas!!
Kladze wrote:I would add a comment but Samuel has pretty much covered everything.
I will agree with Ted though about Turkeys voting for Christmas.
I have an Evertonian mate who has insisted on telling me time and time again that Platini is right as "someone has to do something to stop City".
No matter how many times I respond that it's just dooming his team to eternal failure, he won't have it.
The Original Special One wrote:Kladze wrote:I would add a comment but Samuel has pretty much covered everything.
I will agree with Ted though about Turkeys voting for Christmas.
I have an Evertonian mate who has insisted on telling me time and time again that Platini is right as "someone has to do something to stop City".
No matter how many times I respond that it's just dooming his team to eternal failure, he won't have it.
They believe everything Sky tell them
And the Rags propaganda machine
Sad, innit?
The Original Special One wrote:Kladze wrote:I would add a comment but Samuel has pretty much covered everything.
I will agree with Ted though about Turkeys voting for Christmas.
I have an Evertonian mate who has insisted on telling me time and time again that Platini is right as "someone has to do something to stop City".
No matter how many times I respond that it's just dooming his team to eternal failure, he won't have it.
They believe everything Sky tell them
And the Rags propaganda machine
Sad, innit?
Ted Hughes wrote:Martin samuel is quality & has no agenda; breath of fresh air.
The thing is; so many fans of teams such as Everton, Villa etc have been reading this bullshit about FFP, looking at City & going "ha ha ha...that will fuck them up.."
No, we will get around it but all of you lot are condemned to mediocrity for the rest of eternity unless you manage to get the rules changed back, you stupid jealous bastards. We don't mind if you get an influx of money & compete with us, it's wankers like Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal & the foreign elite clubs who are trying to fuck you over with this, not us. With FFP YOU are fucked, not us, our backers are too big to be stopped this way.
Talk about turkeys voting for Christmas!!
Kladze wrote:I would add a comment but Samuel has pretty much covered everything.
I will agree with Ted though about Turkeys voting for Christmas.
I have an Evertonian mate who has insisted on telling me time and time again that Platini is right as "someone has to do something to stop City".
No matter how many times I respond that it's just dooming his team to eternal failure, he won't have it.
Ted Hughes wrote:Martin samuel is quality & has no agenda; breath of fresh air.
The thing is; so many fans of teams such as Everton, Villa etc have been reading this bullshit about FFP, looking at City & going "ha ha ha...that will fuck them up.."
No, we will get around it but all of you lot are condemned to mediocrity for the rest of eternity unless you manage to get the rules changed back, you stupid jealous bastards. We don't mind if you get an influx of money & compete with us, it's wankers like Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal & the foreign elite clubs who are trying to fuck you over with this, not us. With FFP YOU are fucked, not us, our backers are too big to be stopped this way.
Talk about turkeys voting for Christmas!!
The Original Special One wrote:He's only just now arrived at the same conclusion that every City fan was screaming from the rooftops the day after Platini announced this 'Fair Play Madness'
The thing is, though: Platini has already realised it was madness
(assuming, of course, that he wasn't pressganged into doing it by Man U and Real-Barca, and the other members of the established European 'elite')
ant london wrote:Agree massively with all said above and by Samuel. Had to post the following which is a letter from a united fan on f365 and a response yesterday from a lad who follows one of our other top 6 rivals (but not City)....funny (delusional) stuff from the former and just a good response from the latter.....
City Are Better. Full Stop.
Perhaps if fuel tanker crashes into a fireworks lorry on the training pitch during the 1st team vs reserves training match they might drop some points until the next transfer window opens.
Ted Hughes wrote:Martin samuel is quality & has no agenda; breath of fresh air.
The thing is; so many fans of teams such as Everton, Villa etc have been reading this bullshit about FFP, looking at City & going "ha ha ha...that will fuck them up.."
No, we will get around it but all of you lot are condemned to mediocrity for the rest of eternity unless you manage to get the rules changed back, you stupid jealous bastards. We don't mind if you get an influx of money & compete with us, it's wankers like Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal & the foreign elite clubs who are trying to fuck you over with this, not us. With FFP YOU are fucked, not us, our backers are too big to be stopped this way.
Talk about turkeys voting for Christmas!!
Alex Sapphire wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Martin samuel is quality & has no agenda; breath of fresh air.
The thing is; so many fans of teams such as Everton, Villa etc have been reading this bullshit about FFP, looking at City & going "ha ha ha...that will fuck them up.."
No, we will get around it but all of you lot are condemned to mediocrity for the rest of eternity unless you manage to get the rules changed back, you stupid jealous bastards. We don't mind if you get an influx of money & compete with us, it's wankers like Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal & the foreign elite clubs who are trying to fuck you over with this, not us. With FFP YOU are fucked, not us, our backers are too big to be stopped this way.
Talk about turkeys voting for Christmas!!
I reject both these ideas
I dislike the "acceptance" that we are somehow frigging the system
This is the first season that counts towards FFP and our income is up and spending down, so our first (of three qualifying years) will be a very different picture. We will comply with the regs, not "get round" them, and that's Samuel's point.
Our owners may be wealthy but they're not stupid and we should show them more respect than this big bollox nonesense that "my dad's bigger than yours". They have in fact been very shrewd indeed and will not need to flex their muscles half as much in future as the "drawbridge goes up" (again Samuel's point)
ant london wrote:Agree massively with all said above and by Samuel. Had to post the following which is a letter from a united fan on f365 and a response yesterday from a lad who follows one of our other top 6 rivals (but not City)....funny (delusional) stuff from the former and just a good response from the latter.....
Some Wonderul Straw-Clutching About City
I do not quite understand why people are getting so carried away with Man City. Yes, they have looked phenomenal when attacking with the creative talent of Silva and Aguero's ability to finish from pretty much anywhere he likes (with Balotelli and Dzeko not exactly looking like a pair of cloggers either as they did at times last season), however I think that people are forgetting that City have so far gotten pretty lucky in terms of injuries and the fixture list.
If you take an average position of the teams that City have played and compare it to the teams that Man United have played, Man United's average opposition has been ranked 9.7 whereas City's has been ranked 11.8. City's average is artificially higher than it should be as they played Newcastle, a team who are in a position way higher than they deserve also because of a very kind run of fixtures. These figures show that City still haven't had a proper test yet (apart from games vs Tottenham and Man Utd which were freak results due to Tottenham's pre-transfer window slump and a combination of injuries and the uselessness of Jonny Evans).
In the next month City have got to play Liverpool and Chelsea away and Arsenal at home. If City get nine points from these games then I will happily roll out the red carpet for the City title celebrations myself, however I think that the maximum they will get from these games is four points. This would mean that if Man Utd won all their games (which isn't exactly a given at the moment with their current run of form) then the two teams would be separated by goal difference at the top.
The reason I am confident that City will only get around four points from those three games is (as well as being handy to make Man Utd level on points with City at the top) is that their attacking prowess has been masking the fact that have been slightly dodgy at the back, giving a two-goal lead away at Fulham and conceding two goals against teams like QPR and Bolton. Liverpool haven't conceded more than one goal in a game in the league this season when they've had 11 men on the field and if they actually manage to convert their shots on target into goals then they have got a great chance of nicking points off City. Arsenal and Chelsea, whilst being slightly more porous at the back than Liverpool have got attacking talent that will be more than capable of exposing City's defensive frailties.
Remember, at the start of last season Chelsea went goal-crazy and ended up fading. Whilst City's form has been more sustained, once they start to pick up a few injuries to key players (compare the injuries that City have had so far to the ones suffered by Man Utd or Arsenal for example) they too will fade and we will finally be able to see just how good City really are.
Alex (comparing City to Barcelona is just silly) Hunter
Patrick wrote:ant london wrote:Agree massively with all said above and by Samuel. Had to post the following which is a letter from a united fan on f365 and a response yesterday from a lad who follows one of our other top 6 rivals (but not City)....funny (delusional) stuff from the former and just a good response from the latter.....
Some Wonderul Straw-Clutching About City
I do not quite understand why people are getting so carried away with Man City. Yes, they have looked phenomenal when attacking with the creative talent of Silva and Aguero's ability to finish from pretty much anywhere he likes (with Balotelli and Dzeko not exactly looking like a pair of cloggers either as they did at times last season), however I think that people are forgetting that City have so far gotten pretty lucky in terms of injuries and the fixture list.
If you take an average position of the teams that City have played and compare it to the teams that Man United have played, Man United's average opposition has been ranked 9.7 whereas City's has been ranked 11.8. City's average is artificially higher than it should be as they played Newcastle, a team who are in a position way higher than they deserve also because of a very kind run of fixtures. These figures show that City still haven't had a proper test yet (apart from games vs Tottenham and Man Utd which were freak results due to Tottenham's pre-transfer window slump and a combination of injuries and the uselessness of Jonny Evans).
In the next month City have got to play Liverpool and Chelsea away and Arsenal at home. If City get nine points from these games then I will happily roll out the red carpet for the City title celebrations myself, however I think that the maximum they will get from these games is four points. This would mean that if Man Utd won all their games (which isn't exactly a given at the moment with their current run of form) then the two teams would be separated by goal difference at the top.
The reason I am confident that City will only get around four points from those three games is (as well as being handy to make Man Utd level on points with City at the top) is that their attacking prowess has been masking the fact that have been slightly dodgy at the back, giving a two-goal lead away at Fulham and conceding two goals against teams like QPR and Bolton. Liverpool haven't conceded more than one goal in a game in the league this season when they've had 11 men on the field and if they actually manage to convert their shots on target into goals then they have got a great chance of nicking points off City. Arsenal and Chelsea, whilst being slightly more porous at the back than Liverpool have got attacking talent that will be more than capable of exposing City's defensive frailties.
Remember, at the start of last season Chelsea went goal-crazy and ended up fading. Whilst City's form has been more sustained, once they start to pick up a few injuries to key players (compare the injuries that City have had so far to the ones suffered by Man Utd or Arsenal for example) they too will fade and we will finally be able to see just how good City really are.
Alex (comparing City to Barcelona is just silly) Hunter
I can't believe this wasn't written by Bridges Right Foot
Patrick wrote:ant london wrote:Agree massively with all said above and by Samuel. Had to post the following which is a letter from a united fan on f365 and a response yesterday from a lad who follows one of our other top 6 rivals (but not City)....funny (delusional) stuff from the former and just a good response from the latter.....
Some Wonderul Straw-Clutching About City
I do not quite understand why people are getting so carried away with Man City. Yes, they have looked phenomenal when attacking with the creative talent of Silva and Aguero's ability to finish from pretty much anywhere he likes (with Balotelli and Dzeko not exactly looking like a pair of cloggers either as they did at times last season), however I think that people are forgetting that City have so far gotten pretty lucky in terms of injuries and the fixture list.
If you take an average position of the teams that City have played and compare it to the teams that Man United have played, Man United's average opposition has been ranked 9.7 whereas City's has been ranked 11.8. City's average is artificially higher than it should be as they played Newcastle, a team who are in a position way higher than they deserve also because of a very kind run of fixtures. These figures show that City still haven't had a proper test yet (apart from games vs Tottenham and Man Utd which were freak results due to Tottenham's pre-transfer window slump and a combination of injuries and the uselessness of Jonny Evans).
In the next month City have got to play Liverpool and Chelsea away and Arsenal at home. If City get nine points from these games then I will happily roll out the red carpet for the City title celebrations myself, however I think that the maximum they will get from these games is four points. This would mean that if Man Utd won all their games (which isn't exactly a given at the moment with their current run of form) then the two teams would be separated by goal difference at the top.
The reason I am confident that City will only get around four points from those three games is (as well as being handy to make Man Utd level on points with City at the top) is that their attacking prowess has been masking the fact that have been slightly dodgy at the back, giving a two-goal lead away at Fulham and conceding two goals against teams like QPR and Bolton. Liverpool haven't conceded more than one goal in a game in the league this season when they've had 11 men on the field and if they actually manage to convert their shots on target into goals then they have got a great chance of nicking points off City. Arsenal and Chelsea, whilst being slightly more porous at the back than Liverpool have got attacking talent that will be more than capable of exposing City's defensive frailties.
Remember, at the start of last season Chelsea went goal-crazy and ended up fading. Whilst City's form has been more sustained, once they start to pick up a few injuries to key players (compare the injuries that City have had so far to the ones suffered by Man Utd or Arsenal for example) they too will fade and we will finally be able to see just how good City really are.
Alex (comparing City to Barcelona is just silly) Hunter
I can't believe this wasn't written by Bridges Right Foot
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