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Re: WIDTH / NEVER rest Clichy & Micah

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:30 pm

freshie wrote:IMO the fullback positions is where we lost the game. Napoli like to play the majority of the game through the middle and consequently left a lot of space for us in the wide positions, however, Zabaleta is nowhere near as good as Micah offensively and Kolarov is just awful (his crosses were shit on the rare occasion he chose to cross the ball and the rest of the time he just gave the ball back to whoever had passed it to him) so we couldn't maximise the space we had out wide.


Both fullbacks plus Yaya & Nige were a waste of space imo.
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Re: WIDTH / NEVER rest Clichy & Micah

Postby freshie » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:31 pm

Moonchesteri wrote:I'm pissed off because of the result too.

this thread (OP) is ridiculous....


It's not. Everything he says in his post is correct apart from his assessment of Dzeko who wasn't fairly absent but anonymous
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Re: WIDTH / NEVER rest Clichy & Micah

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:34 pm

freshie wrote:
Moonchesteri wrote:I'm pissed off because of the result too.

this thread (OP) is ridiculous....


It's not. Everything he says in his post is correct apart from his assessment of Dzeko who wasn't fairly absent but anonymous



Dzeko seems to me like he has to play almost every game or he's basically no threat whatsoever apart from as a late sub.
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Re: WIDTH / NEVER rest Clichy & Micah

Postby horlock2000 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:34 pm

Kolarov us not any jinx of full back, jogs back like he's got a poll stuck up his arse! Worst full back defensively I know of! Terrible!!!!!
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Re: WIDTH / NEVER rest Clichy & Micah

Postby LookMumImOnMCF.net » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:38 pm

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Nick wrote:Im seriously pissed off. On Saturday I was raving about Clichy (And was when we signed him) I think hes really underated and obviously Micah is shit hot at the moment. Clichy is so fast he bombs up and gives us options, whereas kolorov is so slow hes cautious sometimes because if they get a break we're fucked because he won't get back in time.


The problem with Kolarov isnt just his pace based on tonight.He had quite a few crossing opportunities and just got them all wrong.

Along with Dzeko he was the worst player out there tonight.

Difference is that Dzeko has impressed me at times, Kolarov has been crap his whole time at City. He's bad going forward and just as bad defending.

Really annoyed that our two best fullbacks, who have been outstanding all season, weren't playing one of our most crucial games.
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Re: WIDTH / NEVER rest Clichy & Micah

Postby freshie » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:40 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
freshie wrote:
Moonchesteri wrote:I'm pissed off because of the result too.

this thread (OP) is ridiculous....


It's not. Everything he says in his post is correct apart from his assessment of Dzeko who wasn't fairly absent but anonymous



Dzeko seems to me like he has to play almost every game or he's basically no threat whatsoever apart from as a late sub.


He's definitely left me scratching my head this season. Was amazing at the start of the season and deservedly won the Barclays player of the month in August as he was unplayable. Then he was rested against Wigan (I think) and hasn't really looked anywhere near that level since. An enigma
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Re: WIDTH / NEVER rest Clichy & Micah

Postby freshie » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:41 pm

LookMumImOnMCF.net wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
Nick wrote:Im seriously pissed off. On Saturday I was raving about Clichy (And was when we signed him) I think hes really underated and obviously Micah is shit hot at the moment. Clichy is so fast he bombs up and gives us options, whereas kolorov is so slow hes cautious sometimes because if they get a break we're fucked because he won't get back in time.


The problem with Kolarov isnt just his pace based on tonight.He had quite a few crossing opportunities and just got them all wrong.

Along with Dzeko he was the worst player out there tonight.

[highlight]Difference is that Dzeko has impressed me at times, Kolarov has been crap his whole time at City. He's bad going forward and just as bad defending.[/highlight]
Really annoyed that our two best fullbacks, who have been outstanding all season, weren't playing one of our most crucial games.


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Re: WIDTH / NEVER rest Clichy & Micah

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:45 pm

I recon Bob sees the Prem as the priority & that's why Micah & Clichy play there.
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Re: WIDTH / NEVER rest Clichy & Micah

Postby horlock2000 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:48 pm

I'm glad I'm not the only person on here that thinks Kolarov is wank! How do some people actually think he should be in that team?! I'm so pisses off that he's rotated it again and it's fucked is up! I'm not bothered about his once in a while decent free kicks cos most of the time is set pieces and corners hit the first man! Stupid signing! The only thing I like about him is that he wears a city shirt. Oh and he looks like a meerkat... And I like them!
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Re: WIDTH / NEVER rest Clichy & Micah

Postby LookMumImOnMCF.net » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:54 pm

What's even more disappointing is that this was a game where it looked like width could've really worked for us. Was genuinely surprised to see how narrow the Napoli fullbacks were all throughout the match. In the first half particularly Kolarov was given lots of time and space.

Still got some kind of sadistic feeling that we're going to qualify from this group anyway. Perhaps too much wine.
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Re: WIDTH / NEVER rest Clichy & Micah

Postby zuricity » Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:57 pm

Nonsense, there was plenty, plenty of width tonight, just poor quality crosses, poor quality corners and silly long distance shooting from around the box.
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Re: WIDTH / NEVER rest Clichy & Micah

Postby Moonchesteri » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:00 pm

zuricity wrote:Nonsense, there was plenty, plenty of width tonight, just poor quality crosses, poor quality corners and silly long distance shooting from around the box.


not to mention ridiculous number of hopeless attempts for through balls by Silva & Yaya when they really should've played it wide
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Re: WIDTH / NEVER rest Clichy & Micah

Postby london blue 2 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:01 pm

zuricity wrote:Nonsense, there was plenty, plenty of width tonight, just poor quality crosses, poor quality corners and silly long distance shooting from around the box.

Nail on head. We had the opportunities, just didn't take them. Zabs was a bit one dimensional, kolarov tried but was shit and no one supported them with any real quality.
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Re: WIDTH / NEVER rest Clichy & Micah

Postby zuricity » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:04 pm

Moonchesteri wrote:
zuricity wrote:Nonsense, there was plenty, plenty of width tonight, just poor quality crosses, poor quality corners and silly long distance shooting from around the box.


not to mention ridiculous number of hopeless attempts for through balls by Silva & Yaya when they really should've played it wide


I wont mention those points then, but you are correct
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Re: WIDTH / NEVER rest Clichy & Micah

Postby Sideshow Bob » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:21 pm

considering the rags' performance in CL this season, as well as ours, it really makes you question the strength of the PL...
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Re: WIDTH / NEVER rest Clichy & Micah

Postby The Original Special One » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:23 pm

Nick wrote:Every time we have zaba and kolorov at full back we lost our attacking threat from wide IMO. Kolorov is too slow to bomb up and down like clichy and Zaba just isnt micah.

That game was so frustrating because I think we could have had them on the wings. They had 10 men behind the ball all in the middle and I dont think we played anyone wide?! What a joke.

I wanted johnson to come on but when he did he proved why Mancini doesnt trust him.

Aguero should have been much sooner though. Dzeko was fairly absent.

Micah would have been a huge improvement, going forward, but which defensive Micah would show up tonight?
If it was the QPR Micah, Napoli would have been out of sight by half-time
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Re: WIDTH / NEVER rest Clichy & Micah

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:26 pm

Sideshow Bob wrote:considering the rags' performance in CL this season, as well as ours, it really makes you question the strength of the PL...


Not when you consider the same Spurs team we put 5 past, beat better teams than Napoli last season & the rags got to the final. We are not the same force in Europe as we are in the Prem. It's our fault we're going out.
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Re: WIDTH / NEVER rest Clichy & Micah

Postby london blue 2 » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:30 pm

Sideshow Bob wrote:considering the rags' performance in CL this season, as well as ours, it really makes you question the strength of the PL...

To be fair you and I both know the champs league is entirely different. It's full of diving cheating racist time wasting overrated european cunty clubs that wanna spend more time on the turf whinging and crying about a nothing challenge. The champs league is a chance for the world of football to bask In the overrated glory of the top teams cheating their way to success while the honest teams lose out because they have no experience of how to manipulate the ref and the fans and the media into believing they have the same right to be competing on a level playing field with the regulars.
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Re: WIDTH / NEVER rest Clichy & Micah

Postby The Original Special One » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:39 pm

horlock2000 wrote:I'm glad I'm not the only person on here that thinks Kolarov is wank! How do some people actually think he should be in that team?! I'm so pisses off that he's rotated it again and it's fucked is up! I'm not bothered about his once in a while decent free kicks cos most of the time is set pieces and corners hit the first man! Stupid signing! The only thing I like about him is that he wears a city shirt. Oh and he looks like a meerkat... And I like them!

Jeez, Clichy's extended family is busy tonight
Kolarov scored the equaliser against Napoli at the Etihad: he set up a superb cross for Ya Ya's headed goal against QPR
What exactly has Clichy done to compare?
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Re: WIDTH / NEVER rest Clichy & Micah

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:41 pm

The Original Special One wrote:
horlock2000 wrote:I'm glad I'm not the only person on here that thinks Kolarov is wank! How do some people actually think he should be in that team?! I'm so pisses off that he's rotated it again and it's fucked is up! I'm not bothered about his once in a while decent free kicks cos most of the time is set pieces and corners hit the first man! Stupid signing! The only thing I like about him is that he wears a city shirt. Oh and he looks like a meerkat... And I like them!

Jeez, Clichy's extended family is busy tonight
Kolarov scored the equaliser against Napoli at the Etihad: he set up a superb cross for Ya Ya's headed goal against QPR
What exactly has Clichy done to compare?


Played fullback. Kolarov can't, end of.
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