does anyone know wher this 'citizens' crap started?

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Re: does anyone know wher this 'citizens' crap started?

Postby halnone » Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:28 am

people call us citizens?
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Re: does anyone know wher this 'citizens' crap started?

Postby john@staustell » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:08 am

I remember it being used when I was a kid, but never by City supporters.

Annoying really because I dont think any other clubs have a 'lazy media' nickname they didnt create or want. Nothing polite anyway.
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Re: does anyone know wher this 'citizens' crap started?

Postby pepsi_dave » Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:22 pm

rosbif cuisson 'bleu' wrote:I noticed Darren (english pundit) on Canal+(France) starting to call city fans 'citizens' about 2 years ago and thought it was just french telly that had made it up, but it seems to be catching on. What the fuck is that all about? I never knew anyone who called themselves a 'citizen' since i was a kid....( a long while now); Don't like it, it makes us sound like 'johhny come lately glory hunters', like you know who...


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Re: does anyone know wher this 'citizens' crap started?

Postby Chinners » Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:29 pm

Agreed, it's cringetastic isn't it
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Re: does anyone know wher this 'citizens' crap started?

Postby gary james » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:01 am

Personally, I think Citizens has never really been used by fans.

During my research for my various books I found material from the beginning of MCFC that talked of us as Citizens. Mostly in match reports. This started in 1894.

The Club have also been nicknamed The Brewery Men (due to links with Chesters), The Cits (shortened version of City) and before that the Ardwickites (when still Ardwick AFC). I don't really think the fans ever used those names either but all of those appeared in match reports and articles on the Club on a regular basis.

I did some research on nicknames when I was researching "Farewell To Maine Road" a decade ago and I found one old supporter who was adamant that Citizens was used by him and his friends when he was a boy in the 30s. Obviously, that was his view and I can't really argue with that, but I don't ever think any of the nicknames (other than Blues and maybe one or two others) were utilised much by regular fans.

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Re: does anyone know wher this 'citizens' crap started?

Postby sandman » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:22 am

Alex Sapphire wrote:
Florida Blue wrote:
sandman wrote:
rosbif cuisson 'bleu' wrote:I noticed Darren (english pundit) on Canal+(France) starting to call city fans 'citizens' about 2 years ago and thought it was just french telly that had made it up, but it seems to be catching on. What the fuck is that all about? I never knew anyone who called themselves a 'citizen' since i was a kid....( a long while now); Don't like it, it makes us sound like 'johhny come lately glory hunters', like you know who...


In an attempt to not sound like a 'Johnny come lately glory hunter' you have proven you are a 'Johnny come lately glory hunter' by not knowing a nickname that has gone back literally generations... Well done.



Ok this leads me to a question then, when is the date that is considered the glory hunter cutoff??


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12:44 you glory hunter!!
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Re: does anyone know wher this 'citizens' crap started?

Postby john68 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:20 pm

Around the time of the change between us being Ardwick and becoming Manchester City, we had strong links with Chesters Brewery and we were known as the Brewerymen.
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Re: does anyone know wher this 'citizens' crap started?

Postby Chinners » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:46 pm

john68 wrote:Around the time of the change between us being Ardwick and becoming Manchester City, we had strong links with Chesters Brewery and we were known as the Brewerymen.


Come on, I know you've been away for a bit but surely you remember to look at posts just a couple up from yours? You don't? Oh well ... carry on ... wibble
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Re: does anyone know wher this 'citizens' crap started?

Postby dazby » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:18 pm

The brewerymen. I love it. Make that stick please.
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Re: does anyone know wher this 'citizens' crap started?

Postby Florida Blue » Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:34 am

gary james wrote:Personally, I think Citizens has never really been used by fans.

During my research for my various books I found material from the beginning of MCFC that talked of us as Citizens. Mostly in match reports. This started in 1894.

The Club have also been nicknamed The Brewery Men (due to links with Chesters), The Cits (shortened version of City) and before that the Ardwickites (when still Ardwick AFC). I don't really think the fans ever used those names either but all of those appeared in match reports and articles on the Club on a regular basis.

I did some research on nicknames when I was researching "Farewell To Maine Road" a decade ago and I found one old supporter who was adamant that Citizens was used by him and his friends when he was a boy in the 30s. Obviously, that was his view and I can't really argue with that, but I don't ever think any of the nicknames (other than Blues and maybe one or two others) were utilised much by regular fans.

Cheers,

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Good stuff Gary, cheers. A shame John68 had to try and nick some of your hard work. He could have at least offered credit where do (although John may actually have been alive then)!
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Re: does anyone know wher this 'citizens' crap started?

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:20 pm

The Citizens tag can only be used for those fans who are/were a Manchester Citizen, surely?

The rest of you are just poor versions and are very lucky we put up with you.
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