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Postby Beeks » Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:25 am

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Manchester United refer City to the FA in dispute over Cup tickets

Manchester United have asked the Football Association to intervene after becoming embroiled in a ticket row with Manchester City that demonstrates the growing scale of rivalry between the two clubs competing at the top of English football.

United want the FA to take up their case after learning that City are prepared to make only 5,400-5,800 seats available to supporters of Sir Alex Ferguson's team for the FA Cup third-round tie at the Etihad Stadium on 8 January.

This falls short of the 15% allocation to which visiting clubs are entitled under FA rules, and has left United complaining that their fans are being treated unfairly. The Old Trafford club had requested 7,170 tickets and they have now asked the FA to write to City to remind them of their responsibilities.

The Premier League's first and second-placed clubs have had since 4 December, when the draw was made, to reach an agreement but have been unable to find a compromise, with neither side apparently willing to change their stance. United's deadline for ticket applications passed last Friday but they have been unable to inform their supporters of what happens next, and there is a suspicion at Old Trafford that it may be a tit-for-tat act on City's part. Roberto Mancini's City deny this, and say it is purely a logistical and security issue.

United are not bound to give visiting clubs the usual 15% allocation because they are given special dispensation from the FA on the basis that Old Trafford is the largest ground in the country. Instead, they routinely give away fans 8,500 tickets for cup ties, and have informed City during discussions about the possibility of a replay that they would not make an exception for their local neighbours, offering roughly 11.2% of their 76,000 capacity. City's offer is almost identical percentage-wise and United have been left to wonder whether this is deliberate.

City say that is not the case and that, owing to the design of their stadium, they have never been able to offer anything higher than 6,100 seats for away fans since leaving Maine Road eight years ago.

They will tell the FA that they have looked at every measure to offer United as close to the stipulated 15% allocation as possible, but they are also bound by strict segregation and security issues for a match that will see one of the largest police operations at a football game in Manchester since the England national team were based at Old Trafford during the rebuilding of Wembley.

The tie has been designated in the highest-risk category because of the history of trouble between rival supporters, in particular the first leg of the Carling Cup semi-final at City's ground in January 2010, which ended 2-1 to the home side.

On that occasion, United accepted City's allocation of 5,300 tickets, so there is an element of surprise at the Etihad Stadium that the two clubs have not been able to agree the allocation this time.

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Re: City vs Rags in ticket row

Postby Beefymcfc » Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:51 am

Obviously they need a bit of publicity, complaining about something they already know about and I'm amazed that they have the audacity to put it in writing. So, they've got the biggest stadium but why do they not have to give the stipulated 15%? Makes no difference, the rules are the rules and if they can bend them so can we.

Just tell them we've reduced it for 'Persistant Standing', there's been a precedent set for that. The less of the greasy skanks the better.

Saying that, their KiBs will need that many just to have the balls to slap a few old men, women and kids. Some of their lot are absolute scum who you'd never stop slapping with their soggy arm. The thought of the old geezer who left early and got floored by 4 of them will remain indelibly inked in my mind. These are the people who shouldn't be allowed to breath, never mind let into society.
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Re: City vs Rags in ticket row

Postby sandman » Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:54 am

I am amazed that they are so eager to watch their shower of shit lose to us?
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Re: City vs Rags in ticket row

Postby King Kev » Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:56 am

Since when have the scum given a full allocation to cup games at the swamp??

They have been getting away with it for years.
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Re: City vs Rags in ticket row

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:58 am

Pity they did not get the 5.00pm start, Buy one get 30.
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Re: City vs Rags in ticket row

Postby john@staustell » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:10 am

I've always been mystified as to why the largest ground can get away with less of a percentage. Surely that would be the small grounds?

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Re: City vs Rags in ticket row

Postby Hazy2 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:32 am

King Kev wrote:Since when have the scum given a full allocation to cup games at the swamp??

They have been getting away with it for years.


C'mon Kev, Tie Rack at Euston have been running a deal for them for years.
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Re: City vs Rags in ticket row

Postby ashton287 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:51 am

So they don't have to give 15% because they don't want to.

We don't want to give them the 15% because they rip up seats and throw them at our fans, throw fireworks, try sneeking darts into the ground to throw, light flares, bottle our players and beat old men up after the game.

We probably don't have a leg to stand on as long as those corrupt cunts are involved.

Atleast this explains the delay in ticket info.
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Re: City vs Rags in ticket row

Postby sandman » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:55 am

ashton287 wrote:throw fireworks


I dont remember that one? When was that?
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Re: City vs Rags in ticket row

Postby lets all have a disco » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:41 am

Id push for a reduced allocation some of the bollocks they have done recently.
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Re: City vs Rags in ticket row

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:53 am

They get away with giving teams a smaller percentage because their ground is big ? WHAT ? WHY ?
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Re: City vs Rags in ticket row

Postby Goaters 103 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:57 am

So let me get this straight. Utd are trying to invoke a specific ticket allocation rule, the very same rule that they have continually flouted for years and years; however when this is repaid to them, they want to complain?

You really coudnt make it up could you. Classic do as I say and not as I do.
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Re: City vs Rags in ticket row

Postby simon12 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:19 am

FUCK OFF!





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Re: City vs Rags in ticket row

Postby Wonderwall » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:30 am

Beeks wrote:United are not bound to give visiting clubs the usual 15% allocation because they are given special dispensation from the FA on the basis that Old Trafford is the largest ground in the country. Instead, they routinely give away fans 8,500 tickets for cup ties, and have informed City during discussions about the possibility of a replay that they would not make an exception for their local neighbours, offering roughly 11.2% of their 76,000 capacity. City's offer is almost identical percentage-wise and United have been left to wonder whether this is deliberate.


Damn you city! Not giving the rags the full 15% allocation even though they have confirmed they will not comply with the 15% if it goes to a replay. I am sure the thought of 11,400 city fans celebrating at the swamp is a little too much for them.
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Re: City vs Rags in ticket row

Postby zuricity » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:36 am

Wonderwall wrote:
Beeks wrote:United are not bound to give visiting clubs the usual 15% allocation because they are given special dispensation from the FA on the basis that Old Trafford is the largest ground in the country. Instead, they routinely give away fans 8,500 tickets for cup ties, and have informed City during discussions about the possibility of a replay that they would not make an exception for their local neighbours, offering roughly 11.2% of their 76,000 capacity. City's offer is almost identical percentage-wise and United have been left to wonder whether this is deliberate.


Damn you city! Not giving the rags the full 15% allocation even though they have confirmed they will not comply with the 15% if it goes to a replay. I am sure the thought of 11,400 city fans celebrating at the swamp is a little too much for them.


Won't need a replay anyway.

Here's why ( see my op from the Semi final day )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0MUwTCbYKg4#t=219s
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Re: City vs Rags in ticket row

Postby zuricity » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:40 am

Wonderwall wrote:
Beeks wrote:United are not bound to give visiting clubs the usual 15% allocation because they are given special dispensation from the FA on the basis that Old Trafford is the largest ground in the country. Instead, they routinely give away fans 8,500 tickets for cup ties, and have informed City during discussions about the possibility of a replay that they would not make an exception for their local neighbours, offering roughly 11.2% of their 76,000 capacity. City's offer is almost identical percentage-wise and United have been left to wonder whether this is deliberate.


Damn you city! Not giving the rags the full 15% allocation even though they have confirmed they will not comply with the 15% if it goes to a replay. I am sure the thought of 11,400 city fans celebrating at the swamp is a little too much for them.


Won't need a replay anyway.

Here's why ( see my op from the Semi final day )

Edit : Sorry that's better


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Re: City vs Rags in ticket row

Postby Mark Garrett » Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:01 pm

This needs to be sorted sooner rather than later though because the game is two weeks on Sunday and no tickets have been sold yet.
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Re: City vs Rags in ticket row

Postby ashton287 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:35 pm

sandman wrote:
ashton287 wrote:throw fireworks


I dont remember that one? When was that?


CC home game, they threw fireworks (bangers i think).
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Re: City vs Rags in ticket row

Postby Beefymcfc » Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:45 pm

ashton287 wrote:
sandman wrote:
ashton287 wrote:throw fireworks


I dont remember that one? When was that?


CC home game, they threw fireworks (bangers i think).

They had red flares mate (very Turkish), set them off when the lights went down for the Bluemoon Rising bit. I'm sure we've not done it since.
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Re: City vs Rags in ticket row

Postby sandman » Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:51 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
ashton287 wrote:
sandman wrote:
ashton287 wrote:throw fireworks


I dont remember that one? When was that?


CC home game, they threw fireworks (bangers i think).

They had red flares mate (very Turkish), set them off when the lights went down for the Bluemoon Rising bit. I'm sure we've not done it since.


I remember the flares before the match when the lights went down but I dont remember any fireworks, a young lad near me (about 5 years old) got hit by a coin and he ended up in tears. I really despise them, they are the absolute arse end of English Football, they go abroad and complain about foreign police but then prove on our own soil what degenerate arseholes they really are. Its funny how many other clubs go abroad with little or no trouble yet when Utd, Liverpool and Leeds have been abroad its gone off as often and as bad (for me all 3 are in the top 5 worst sets of fans in britain)
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