Dutch Cup insanity - Ajax v AZ

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Re: Dutch Cup insanity - Ajax v AZ

Postby kinkylola » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:30 am

I would agree with your OTT comment, doug, if the keeper had been kicking the fan in the head or chest area. As it is, he aimed 2 kicks at the fans' legs. This is not life threatening and could even be argued was not meant to do any harm, only to keep him immobilized until authorities could arrive.

Seriously, kicking someone who just assaulted you from behind to keep them on the ground is not OTT. The keeper would not be in any legal trouble if the encounter had happened on a street somewhere, and I doubt there was actually any physical harm done to the fan.
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Re: Dutch Cup insanity - Ajax v AZ

Postby Crossie » Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:29 pm

GhoulishZombie wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Maybe the keeper should have sat the offender down and talked to him nicely instead of being "aggressive" and "violent" or perhaps let the offender kicked the shit out of him till proper "authority" had arrived.


This guy clearly never goes out lol



I've been waiting for abit of a kick off over the above tbh. Nothing yet. Maybe I read it wrong.
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Re: Dutch Cup insanity - Ajax v AZ

Postby Dameerto » Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:25 pm

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Dameerto wrote:The camera cuts to him as he's kicking the fan while he's on the ground. He's going to get sent off for that no matter what the provocation because it can be seen as excessive and likely to incite the opposition's fans.


Incite them into what ? Running on the pitch and attacking him ? Oh wait a minute..

If you fuck with people on their turf, in any walk of life, you're fair game imo; no right to whinge about it. I remember Keith Richards banjoing some cunt with his Telecaster in front of thousands, & his reason; " how the fuck do I know what he's going to do, he could have a knife ? " Remember Monica Seles ?

Why should the keeper risk the twat getting up & causing him damage ? He's entitled to do whatever it takes to put him right out of action imo.



Incite them to riot you knobend. As for being entitled, I'm presuming he put the fan on the floor in the first place, that's where selfdefence ends and excessiveness begins.
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Re: Dutch Cup insanity - Ajax v AZ

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:44 pm

Dameerto wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Dameerto wrote:The camera cuts to him as he's kicking the fan while he's on the ground. He's going to get sent off for that no matter what the provocation because it can be seen as excessive and likely to incite the opposition's fans.


Incite them into what ? Running on the pitch and attacking him ? Oh wait a minute..

If you fuck with people on their turf, in any walk of life, you're fair game imo; no right to whinge about it. I remember Keith Richards banjoing some cunt with his Telecaster in front of thousands, & his reason; " how the fuck do I know what he's going to do, he could have a knife ? " Remember Monica Seles ?

Why should the keeper risk the twat getting up & causing him damage ? He's entitled to do whatever it takes to put him right out of action imo.



Incite them to riot you knobend. As for being entitled, I'm presuming he put the fan on the floor in the first place, that's where selfdefence ends and excessiveness begins.


And if he gets up & puts you in fucking hospital, I gather you get him to apologise afterwards & it's all ok ? Fuck that.
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Re: Dutch Cup insanity - Ajax v AZ

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:58 pm

Crossie wrote:
GhoulishZombie wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Maybe the keeper should have sat the offender down and talked to him nicely instead of being "aggressive" and "violent" or perhaps let the offender kicked the shit out of him till proper "authority" had arrived.


This guy clearly never goes out lol



I've been waiting for abit of a kick off over the above tbh. Nothing yet. Maybe I read it wrong.


It was tongue in cheek to the do gooder snot brigade and pc clappy crew.
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Re: Dutch Cup insanity - Ajax v AZ

Postby andeez nutz » Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:15 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Crossie wrote:
GhoulishZombie wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:Maybe the keeper should have sat the offender down and talked to him nicely instead of being "aggressive" and "violent" or perhaps let the offender kicked the shit out of him till proper "authority" had arrived.


This guy clearly never goes out lol



I've been waiting for abit of a kick off over the above tbh. Nothing yet. Maybe I read it wrong.


It was tongue in cheek to the do gooder snot brigade and pc clappy crew.


I thought Obama wrote that!
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Re: Dutch Cup insanity - Ajax v AZ

Postby phips » Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:17 pm

damn, i wish that video still worked.
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Re: Dutch Cup insanity - Ajax v AZ

Postby Dameerto » Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:46 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Dameerto wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Dameerto wrote:The camera cuts to him as he's kicking the fan while he's on the ground. He's going to get sent off for that no matter what the provocation because it can be seen as excessive and likely to incite the opposition's fans.


Incite them into what ? Running on the pitch and attacking him ? Oh wait a minute..

If you fuck with people on their turf, in any walk of life, you're fair game imo; no right to whinge about it. I remember Keith Richards banjoing some cunt with his Telecaster in front of thousands, & his reason; " how the fuck do I know what he's going to do, he could have a knife ? " Remember Monica Seles ?

Why should the keeper risk the twat getting up & causing him damage ? He's entitled to do whatever it takes to put him right out of action imo.



Incite them to riot you knobend. As for being entitled, I'm presuming he put the fan on the floor in the first place, that's where selfdefence ends and excessiveness begins.


And if he gets up & puts you in fucking hospital, I gather you get him to apologise afterwards & it's all ok ? Fuck that.


They're not on a street corner sipping pints and arguing about football, they're in a ground surrounded with stewards and police. In fact I think they guy in grey with a hat on was a steward (who got on the scene just after the keeper's team mates pulled him away)
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Re: Dutch Cup insanity - Ajax v AZ

Postby Avalon » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:07 pm

phips wrote:damn, i wish that video still worked.


[youtube]JHL8InveiXM[/youtube]

Copyright cunts are active again, despite the fact that copyright cannot be used to enforce people not to share things when they are used for specific purposes. Fucking morons.
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Re: Dutch Cup insanity - Ajax v AZ

Postby Arjan Van Schotte » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:24 pm

keeper did the right thing - ref did the right thing, manager did the right thing. replay the tie behind closed doors - all costs to ajax.
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Re: Dutch Cup insanity - Ajax v AZ

Postby Biamp » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:18 pm

Top stuff..
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Re: Dutch Cup insanity - Ajax v AZ

Postby phips » Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:55 pm

glad the manager hauled the team off
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Re: Dutch Cup insanity - Ajax v AZ

Postby Dunnylad » Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:12 am

I see the Dutch FA have rescinded the red card
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Re: Dutch Cup insanity - Ajax v AZ

Postby PeterParker » Fri Dec 23, 2011 10:23 am

Weird stuff, i just saw on Eurosport a news about the incident and they said that if the pitch invader would like to press charges againts the keaper, Esteban can go to jail, if the trial goes on.
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Re: Dutch Cup insanity - Ajax v AZ

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:25 am

Dameerto wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Dameerto wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Dameerto wrote:The camera cuts to him as he's kicking the fan while he's on the ground. He's going to get sent off for that no matter what the provocation because it can be seen as excessive and likely to incite the opposition's fans.


Incite them into what ? Running on the pitch and attacking him ? Oh wait a minute..

If you fuck with people on their turf, in any walk of life, you're fair game imo; no right to whinge about it. I remember Keith Richards banjoing some cunt with his Telecaster in front of thousands, & his reason; " how the fuck do I know what he's going to do, he could have a knife ? " Remember Monica Seles ?

Why should the keeper risk the twat getting up & causing him damage ? He's entitled to do whatever it takes to put him right out of action imo.



Incite them to riot you knobend. As for being entitled, I'm presuming he put the fan on the floor in the first place, that's where selfdefence ends and excessiveness begins.


And if he gets up & puts you in fucking hospital, I gather you get him to apologise afterwards & it's all ok ? Fuck that.


They're not on a street corner sipping pints and arguing about football, they're in a ground surrounded with stewards and police. In fact I think they guy in grey with a hat on was a steward (who got on the scene just after the keeper's team mates pulled him away)


So was Monica Seles.
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Re: Dutch Cup insanity - Ajax v AZ

Postby usedtothespin » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:23 pm

It's off topic, so sorry for that, but I am yet unable to start my own.

Anyway there's a big piece in the biggest Dutch football magazine about Gerald Wiekens and his City days and his love for City, interesting stuff. If someone would like to read it (maybe more than one), I can translate is. If no-one is interested it's a bit of waste of time ;)

Let me know. (And if interested maybe one of you can start a new thread)
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Re: Dutch Cup insanity - Ajax v AZ

Postby bluej » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:42 pm

usedtothespin wrote:It's off topic, so sorry for that, but I am yet unable to start my own.

Anyway there's a big piece in the biggest Dutch football magazine about Gerald Wiekens and his City days and his love for City, interesting stuff. If someone would like to read it (maybe more than one), I can translate is. If no-one is interested it's a bit of waste of time ;)

Let me know. (And if interested maybe one of you can start a new thread)


I'd definitely be interested in that. I'd imagine that if you PM wonderwall or King Kev then they'll change your profile so you can post it.
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Re: Dutch Cup insanity - Ajax v AZ

Postby usedtothespin » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:45 pm

bluej wrote:
usedtothespin wrote:It's off topic, so sorry for that, but I am yet unable to start my own.

Anyway there's a big piece in the biggest Dutch football magazine about Gerald Wiekens and his City days and his love for City, interesting stuff. If someone would like to read it (maybe more than one), I can translate is. If no-one is interested it's a bit of waste of time ;)

Let me know. (And if interested maybe one of you can start a new thread)


I'd definitely be interested in that. I'd imagine that if you PM wonderwall or King Kev then they'll change your profile so you can post it.



OK, i'll get busy!

And to give this topic back a really funny tumblr about the guy who attacked Esteban:

http://hooliganwesley.tumblr.com/
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Re: Dutch Cup insanity - Ajax v AZ

Postby Avalon » Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:58 pm

PeterParker wrote:Weird stuff, i just saw on Eurosport a news about the incident and they said that if the pitch invader would like to press charges againts the keaper, Esteban can go to jail, if the trial goes on.


In this retarded world we live in these days, it will probably happen.
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Re: Dutch Cup insanity - Ajax v AZ

Postby zuricity » Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:08 pm

Why is the ref wearing the same colours as the goalie ?
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