What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:46 pm

I'm looking forward to Ask Yaya on the OS.

I'm going to ask him what he actually does.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby bigblue » Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:14 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:Personally I don't think Yaya is a good defensive midfielder at all. I think he's a fantastic midfielder but makes loads of mistakes when asked to do a purely holding role & can sometimes be a liability there. He should only be asked to play that role v lesser teams or if we're desperate imo. He should be allowed to play his own game rather than be shoehorned into a role he doesn't perform too well.


Don't think Yaya is as lacking in the defensive department as you say and he can play there (or in center defence) as needed. But if De Jong is available, he should defiantly shield the defense for most big games. As good as Yaya is all-round, De Jong is the master at that role.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Ted Hughes » Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:21 pm

bigblue wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Personally I don't think Yaya is a good defensive midfielder at all. I think he's a fantastic midfielder but makes loads of mistakes when asked to do a purely holding role & can sometimes be a liability there. He should only be asked to play that role v lesser teams or if we're desperate imo. He should be allowed to play his own game rather than be shoehorned into a role he doesn't perform too well.


Don't think Yaya is as lacking in the defensive department as you say and he can play there (or in center defence) as needed. But if De Jong is available, he should defiantly shield the defense for most big games. As good as Yaya is all-round, De Jong is the master at that role.


Normally, but tbh I thought he went missing a little bit at times v Newcastle in that area just in front of the defence. He does look as if he's getting his old sharpness back in general though.

Second guessing Mancini on occasions like this is difficult. I would have bet my own knob against Kolo Toure starting in Munich.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Esky » Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:09 pm

Yaya Toure: Midfield
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Did you know? Toure has made the most successful passes in the Premier League this season (744).


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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Bluedj » Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:53 am

The Original Special One wrote:
bigblue wrote:
The Original Special One wrote:
paul_oresteia wrote:Yaya wins us games (FA Cup Semi, Final, Villarreal, QPR). I think he's an integral part of the team. Great energy, hard to push off the ball. I'm quite shocked any City fan doubts his ability but each to their own. I hope stays for many years to come.

Speaking as somebody who's frequently been critical of him it was more the question that when he was required to play a defensive midfield role his mind was often elsewhere, or he didn't seem sure what his role was meant to be.
Now I think we can get the best out of him by playing any two from Barry, De Jong, and Milner, - or perhaps Zaba, also, - as dedicated defensive midfielders, and Ya Ya always forward of the half-way line to better conserve his energy for those 'power surges'
(Which I think is how we should line up in Naples)


Just fess up that you were wrong for criticizing a world-class player. Enough backtracking and trying to re-write what you said.

He's played good where ever Mancini has asked him to play, thats why he keeps getting picked! Sure he has games where he isn't on the top of his game, but thats just like everyone else. Just because YOU don't know what his role is, it doesn't mean that Yaya or Mancini also don't know.

I'm not backtracking: I've been consistent in my views on Ya Ya: I still maintain he lacks the discipline to be a dedicated defensive midfielder, based on all the evidence I've seen him give in a City shirt.
Now that might be down to his role not being well enough defined for him, but I can only comment on what I've seen from him, and I think its best to play him just beyond the half-way line


As much as I love Yaya, and i really do, tonight he ambled back, leaving a their player free space to get the shot away and score their second. I've seen this happen a few to many times, this time it cost us big. James Miller was also in the same part of the pitch, don't know if he thought yaya would go get there player. If Yaya cant do this defensive duty, then get him up the pitch where here reaks havock
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Mase » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:25 am

Had a poor game against Napoli. Seemed like he was actually napping for most of the game actually. I'd say he could do with a rest but we're going to need him against Scouse 1 on Sunday!
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby King Kev » Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:03 am

He wins the African Player Of The Year Award, that's what Yaya does!
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Biamp » Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:24 am

King Kev wrote:He wins the African Player Of The Year Award, that's what Yaya does!


He deserves it the most, beside there aren't many players who deserve it more than him based on 2010/2011 season.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:04 am

I think I agree fully with Ted.In a full central midfield role where he can dictate the game he is world class.I am sure every team in the prem would love to have him. Give him a restricted defensive role and he can occasionally be found wanting.He's good but just not top top class. He isn't a perfect 2nd striker but he does scare the hell out of teams when he moves into that role.

He seems to know when the pace of the game needs to be upped and is ideal at making it happen but at the same time he is perfect to keep it calm and retain the possession with his excellent awareness and first touch control. And as for the lazy comments.......I give up.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Blue2 » Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:37 am

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:I think I agree fully with Ted.In a full central midfield role where he can dictate the game he is world class.I am sure every team in the prem would love to have him. Give him a restricted defensive role and he can occasionally be found wanting.He's good but just not top top class. He isn't a perfect 2nd striker but he does scare the hell out of teams when he moves into that role.

He seems to know when the pace of the game needs to be upped and is ideal at making it happen but at the same time he is perfect to keep it calm and retain the possession with his excellent awareness and first touch control. And as for the lazy comments.......I give up.



Sorry Doug, got to disagree there, he is definately top class.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:00 pm

Blue2 wrote:
Douglas Higginbottom wrote:I think I agree fully with Ted.In a full central midfield role where he can dictate the game he is world class.I am sure every team in the prem would love to have him. Give him a restricted defensive role and he can occasionally be found wanting.He's good but just not top top class. He isn't a perfect 2nd striker but he does scare the hell out of teams when he moves into that role.

He seems to know when the pace of the game needs to be upped and is ideal at making it happen but at the same time he is perfect to keep it calm and retain the possession with his excellent awareness and first touch control. And as for the lazy comments.......I give up.



Sorry Doug, got to disagree there, he is definately top class.


As a defensive player, you only have to go back to the Chelsea game & the first goal, for concrete proof that he isn't. Then check out the 2nd Napoli goal. A top quality defensive midfielder or even someone like Kevin Horlock, would have dealt easily with both.

As a midfielder in a free role though, he is in a very elite club. I can't think of anyone better in this league.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby FBlue » Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:33 pm

I remember Chelsea vs Barcelona in 2009 in the first leg. The lad was the best Barcelona player ahead of Messi, Xavi, Iniesta and Eto'o. There's very few (maybe no other) players who can put that on his CV.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Fesan » Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:21 pm

He seems to have found his rhythm in the prem more and more as of late. In the beginning he seemed to have good and bad games and fitness seemed to be a problem.

Lately he has almost only good games and plays 2x a week without fitness trouble. As people have said before he controls the pace of our games, every top team needs a player like that!

He is our version of a Fabregas type player who controls the flow.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Nigels Tackle » Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:00 pm

he doesn't play to the final whistle...

very disappointed to see him standing still after our final attack broke down...
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:03 pm

Nigels Tackle wrote:he doesn't play to the final whistle...

very disappointed to see him standing still after our final attack broke down...



hahaha in the previous minutes he had been everywhere and the key man driving us forward and showing real urgency. Won the ball at left back and powered forward and was everywhere all match.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby london blue 2 » Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:10 pm

Douglas Higginbottom wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:he doesn't play to the final whistle...

very disappointed to see him standing still after our final attack broke down...



hahaha in the previous minutes he had been everywhere and the key man driving us forward and showing real urgency. Won the ball at left back and powered forward and was everywhere all match.

I love yaya but I thought he was dog shit today.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby dazby » Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:21 pm

As I put in the match thread when he was good we were good and vice versa. Still, he gets involved so you can't ask for much more. I'd have liked him to have taken a couple of long shots to mix things up a bit.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby PeterParker » Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:24 pm

I really like Yaya, but the last games his passes were horrible. He lost a lot of important balls in some important moments.
Today he played in the first half were he loves two, at the same line with Nasri and Adam and for me he wasen't good at all.
Of course, this opinion is because he walked when Sunderland was on the counter, in the last moment of the game.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Douglas Higginbottom » Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:25 pm

dazby wrote:As I put in the match thread when he was good we were good and vice versa. Still, he gets involved so you can't ask for much more. I'd have liked him to have taken a couple of long shots to mix things up a bit.



One of our better players from a team performance that overall wasnt that good. We just lacked the quality needed on the final ball or shot but I am left feeling that we don't go for games early enough.The first half just lacked desire.
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Re: What Does Yaya Toure Actually Do?

Postby Im_Spartacus » Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:32 pm

Being picky here, but even before Sunderland got in our half at the end, I was screaming at Yaya to move his arse as he was badly out of position after making a forward run and allowed the free run through our midfield.

So yet again a major factor in conceding a goal was Yaya just sauntering back in his own time
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