Beefymcfc wrote:guv111 wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Btw, it's not the end of the world that we didn't win at WBA but those of you who just brush it off need to wake up. You are all so used to losing & competing for fuck all, that you don't realise the potential importance of it. It's time as a club when we have to take this kind of thing on board & deal with it rather than sticking our heads under the bedclothes & pretending it didn't happen.
'Oh it's ok, well played WBA' is absolutely the wrong attitude to take. The correct attitude is ' this is not good enough, lets win the next ten & make sure it doesn't happen again'.
I agree. With the long run of what look like very hard games coming up (barring , maybe, Wigan away, though after WBA who can tell?) points dropped at West Brom wasn't a luxury we could really afford. As you say, an away point at a decent Premier League team isn't the end of the world, though the manner of it and the lack of sharpness gave grounds for concern. And sharpness is key, as we are anything but a methodical side, even though we do grind teams down with our possession and movement. We rely a lot of burst of creativity and sparks of individual brilliance, so tiredness and dullness are things we need to avoid as best we can, and in the next five weeks that will mean relying on the depth of our options. The games with Liverpool and United are likely to be especially grinding. With what lies ahead in the immediate future, West Brom wasn't the time or place to have an off day. That's where the anxiety stems from.
Also, congratulating opposition teams on playing well is folly, unless we've beaten them. After all, it's their job (even duty) to play well which many PL sides seem to forget. They are clubs taking part in one of the best league divisions in the world, they should be good.
If they should be good, what's the problem when they get a draw against us? If these teams are so good why should we have the automatic right to beat them on their own manner, are they not allowed to play on the same park?
I find yours and Ted's view quite disconcerting, somehow believing we have a divine right to win home or away against 11 other players that are set out to do a job. Yes, we should've won with the chances we had but I just don't believe we are at a point where 'We'll do what we want', if you get my drift.
Unlike you and Ted, I have no anxiety issues, this is football. There'll be many twists and turns to come and I for one am loving what's happened so far. Rags on their best points total ever, we're still top of the league. Work that one out.
It's nothing to do with a 'divine right' of anything. I saw a City side playing well below par, not an invincible WBA defence. I would have expected most of the top 6 to beat West Brom on that peformance as they were stood in their own penalty box offering us the opportunity to shoot, cross dribble, basically do almost all of the things you do whe you score a goal. It was not the same City team we have been watching recently, who would have scored.
In a normal season, when we expect to win fuck all, this performance doesn't matter. When you are top of the league & intend to be sure of staying there, it means you have to get the points back from somewhere at a later date or expect the rags to also give us a gift back & fuck up there. A lot of people on here are expecting the likes of chelsea & Arsenal to do it for us by beating them, rather than us taking responsibility & getting the points on the board ourselves. If we all want to just go 'ooh isn't it wonderful' then fine, we can come 2nd & talk about how well we played at the end of the season. If we want to win the league, expecting to score a couple of goals v West Brom, in a game where we have 72% of posession in not arrogant or unrealistic, it's perfectly reasonable.
We fucked up yesterday. Why on earth people refuse to accept that is beyond me.