Tinchy Stryder

[Dameerto]

I hope you have the figures to back that up, Karaoke King.

[Rag_hater]

I hope you have the figures to back that up, Karaoke King.

I thought that was in the chart.
Is that something else?

[london blue 2]

Anybody who gets money for entertaining people IMO should not be called a tosser

What about Gary Glitter ?

He should be called a paedo

[simon12]

I started my last post by saying he`s a tosser cos he`s a rag. I personally think there`s no talent in it. If other people do that`s fine by me. i don`t like the concept of the show as it`s conning people. There votes really don`t count. It`s meant to be a talent show but it`s not. Why do you have to wear skiny jeans and have spikey hair to prove if you can sing after all that`s what it`s meant to be about, however if that`s what you like fill your boots. I just think it`s wank..only my opinion.

Tedious, superficial, pretentious guff.
Cos something is popular does not mean it's crap.
All the stuff about conning people is bollox.

Not really. Music is more important to me than it is to others does not make it tedious, superficial or pretentious. The Who, Pink Floyd and Michael Jackson are examples of something popular that i would say aren`t guff they just created themselves, they weren`t formed and modelled into something we are told we should like. If you`re not being conned why can`t you vote for free. After all these extraordinary talents have been discovered for our popular enjoyment.

I didn`t realise you were such a fan of x factor....it`s nothing to be ashamed of...honest.

[spiny]

Plastic Rag on the coat tails of Mario. Without reference to "Why Always Me" and Mario Balotelli, it is a banal bedroom track.

Typical glory hunter.

Ignore. Don't give it publicity.

[Rag_hater]

I started my last post by saying he`s a tosser cos he`s a rag. I personally think there`s no talent in it. If other people do that`s fine by me. i don`t like the concept of the show as it`s conning people. There votes really don`t count. It`s meant to be a talent show but it`s not. Why do you have to wear skiny jeans and have spikey hair to prove if you can sing after all that`s what it`s meant to be about, however if that`s what you like fill your boots. I just think it`s wank..only my opinion.

Tedious, superficial, pretentious guff.
Cos something is popular does not mean it's crap.
All the stuff about conning people is bollox.

Not really. Music is more important to me than it is to others does not make it tedious, superficial or pretentious. The Who, Pink Floyd and Michael Jackson are examples of something popular that i would say aren`t guff they just created themselves, they weren`t formed and modelled into something we are told we should like. If you`re not being conned why can`t you vote for free. After all these extraordinary talents have been discovered for our popular enjoyment.

I didn`t realise you were such a fan of x factor....it`s nothing to be ashamed of...honest.

I have never denied being a fan of the x factor like the people on here that pretend they are being elitist,superior,pontificating by being to clever to watch it.By the way if all them highbrow lot who turn it over when it comes on apply the same thing when suppository comes on they would have less to be paranoid about.There is as much talent around now as when the bands you mention were around.How they become visible to the public may have changed but to say someone like Leona lewis or Alexandra Burke or Jls to name a few have no talent is being a bit unkind to say the least.
I've never voted.People who want to spend money doing so are told of the cost of it.If they want to do that then jt is their business.The Who.Pink floyd(bloody hell youre showing your age)Wacko gave all their records for free did they?I missed that one.Individual taste is one thing but if something is as popular as the x factor gets millions of people watching they are doing something right.

[Mase]

Can we all just agree that he's a little rag twat and we all love Mario?

[simon12]

I started my last post by saying he`s a tosser cos he`s a rag. I personally think there`s no talent in it. If other people do that`s fine by me. i don`t like the concept of the show as it`s conning people. There votes really don`t count. It`s meant to be a talent show but it`s not. Why do you have to wear skiny jeans and have spikey hair to prove if you can sing after all that`s what it`s meant to be about, however if that`s what you like fill your boots. I just think it`s wank..only my opinion.

Tedious, superficial, pretentious guff.
Cos something is popular does not mean it's crap.
All the stuff about conning people is bollox.

Not really. Music is more important to me than it is to others does not make it tedious, superficial or pretentious. The Who, Pink Floyd and Michael Jackson are examples of something popular that i would say aren`t guff they just created themselves, they weren`t formed and modelled into something we are told we should like. If you`re not being conned why can`t you vote for free. After all these extraordinary talents have been discovered for our popular enjoyment.

I didn`t realise you were such a fan of x factor....it`s nothing to be ashamed of...honest.

I have never denied being a fan of the x factor like the people on here that pretend they are being elitist,superior,pontificating by being to clever to watch it.By the way if all them highbrow lot who turn it over when it comes on apply the same thing when suppository comes on they would have less to be paranoid about.There is as much talent around now as when the bands you mention were around.How they become visible to the public may have changed but to say someone like Leona lewis or Alexandra Burke or Jls to name a few have no talent is being a bit unkind to say the least.
I've never voted.People who want to spend money doing so are told of the cost of it.If they want to do that then jt is their business.The Who.Pink floyd(bloody hell youre showing your age)Wacko gave all their records for free did they?I missed that one.Individual taste is one thing but if something is as popular as the x factor gets millions of people watching they are doing something right.

The Who and Floyd were groups I was brought up on, Wacko was the first name that came into my head. The x factor will never create long standing superstars comparable to these as long as I have a hole in my arse mate. Leonna Lewis and Alex Burke are no Whitney Houston or Mariah Carey (neither my cup of tea but they have a 5 and 7 octave vocal range respectively dependant on the amount of coke the first one is having). It`s hard enough for real talent to break through(if it was burke and lewis wouldn`t need this show would they) without the extra obstacle of this show flooding the market with this stuff. I agree with you that everything is down to individual taste and what i like wouldn`t get on the x factor. As for being popular, it has the 2 prime spots bought and paid for by cowell what do you expect.

I also agree with Mase...He`s a rag twat.

[Rag_hater]

I started my last post by saying he`s a tosser cos he`s a rag. I personally think there`s no talent in it. If other people do that`s fine by me. i don`t like the concept of the show as it`s conning people. There votes really don`t count. It`s meant to be a talent show but it`s not. Why do you have to wear skiny jeans and have spikey hair to prove if you can sing after all that`s what it`s meant to be about, however if that`s what you like fill your boots. I just think it`s wank..only my opinion.

Tedious, superficial, pretentious guff.
Cos something is popular does not mean it's crap.
All the stuff about conning people is bollox.

Not really. Music is more important to me than it is to others does not make it tedious, superficial or pretentious. The Who, Pink Floyd and Michael Jackson are examples of something popular that i would say aren`t guff they just created themselves, they weren`t formed and modelled into something we are told we should like. If you`re not being conned why can`t you vote for free. After all these extraordinary talents have been discovered for our popular enjoyment.

I didn`t realise you were such a fan of x factor....it`s nothing to be ashamed of...honest.

I have never denied being a fan of the x factor like the people on here that pretend they are being elitist,superior,pontificating by being to clever to watch it.By the way if all them highbrow lot who turn it over when it comes on apply the same thing when suppository comes on they would have less to be paranoid about.There is as much talent around now as when the bands you mention were around.How they become visible to the public may have changed but to say someone like Leona lewis or Alexandra Burke or Jls to name a few have no talent is being a bit unkind to say the least.
I've never voted.People who want to spend money doing so are told of the cost of it.If they want to do that then jt is their business.The Who.Pink floyd(bloody hell youre showing your age)Wacko gave all their records for free did they?I missed that one.Individual taste is one thing but if something is as popular as the x factor gets millions of people watching they are doing something right.

The Who and Floyd were groups I was brought up on, Wacko was the first name that came into my head. The x factor will never create long standing superstars comparable to these as long as I have a hole in my arse mate. Leonna Lewis and Alex Burke are no Whitney Houston or Mariah Carey (neither my cup of tea but they have a 5 and 7 octave vocal range respectively dependant on the amount of coke the first one is having). It`s hard enough for real talent to break through(if it was burke and lewis wouldn`t need this show would they) without the extra obstacle of this show flooding the market with this stuff. I agree with you that everything is down to individual taste and what i like wouldn`t get on the x factor. As for being popular, it has the 2 prime spots bought and paid for by cowell what do you expect.

I also agree with Mase...He`s a rag twat.

That comment suggests that you don't think there has been a decent tune since the who and pink floyd.I think that's way of the mark ther has been plenty since.That was music from your generation(to quote Roger)its not what is popular now.Good tunes stand the test of time.What entertains people now is different from 30/40 years ago,tastes change fashions change.
Most of what The Who and Floyd did now I think my kids would find boring it was the flavour of the time.For me music generally is a reflection of the times and old music reflects what was around then and new music reflects what is around now.
I enjoy pop that is made now as much as the pop that was around when I was younger.

[simon12]

Wow RH how did you summise that, I meant nothing of the sort. Good music is good music no matter who makes it. The Who and Floyd aren`t my era they were my dads. My influences were from labels like Streetwave in the early 80`s the pop version of this type of music would be SOS band, Looseends etc. My kids also think wtf when they hear Floyd too. Music is definately a reflection of the times. Disco, Punk and House music are good examples of this.

[Rag_hater]

Wow RH how did you summise that, I meant nothing of the sort. Good music is good music no matter who makes it. The Who and Floyd aren`t my era they were my dads. My influences were from labels like Streetwave in the early 80`s the pop version of this type of music would be SOS band, Looseends etc. My kids also think wtf when they hear Floyd too. Music is definately a reflection of the times. Disco, Punk and House music are good examples of this.

I think what our difference of opinion is that I see shows such as the X factor as progressions of shows like Opportunity Knocks,New Faces,Stars in Their Eyes which I don't think hindered the progress of talent.I don't think X factor hinders talent.Plenty have become popular without having to go through that route.
Talent shows have been around for years the X factor is just a modern version.
A few famous people who have come through the talent show route Les Dawson, Tom O’ Connor, Roy Chubby Brown and Pam Ayres.

[Ted Hughes]

You are an expert on so many things.

[Rag_hater]

You are an expert on so many things.

Nowhere near as much you.Not even in the same league.I'm quite often sat here agog at your brilliance.

[CTID Hants]

Is this thread really 3 pages long? I stopped listening to "tune" after 20 seconds. Total toilet music end of.

I am with Chinners and 1950, couldn't care less if Mario is the supposed recipient of the "artists" affection,it is Shit, period.

He could be a martian, his "music" is still Shit.

Happy new year to one and all x x x

[Dameerto]

I think what our difference of opinion is that I see shows such as the X factor as progressions of shows like Opportunity Knocks,New Faces,Stars in Their Eyes which I don't think hindered the progress of talent.I don't think X factor hinders talent.Plenty have become popular without having to go through that route.
Talent shows have been around for years the X factor is just a modern version.
A few famous people who have come through the talent show route Les Dawson, Tom O’ Connor, Roy Chubby Brown and Pam Ayres.

Your difference of opinion is that you're trying to tell him what he thinks.

[Rag_hater]

I think what our difference of opinion is that I see shows such as the X factor as progressions of shows like Opportunity Knocks,New Faces,Stars in Their Eyes which I don't think hindered the progress of talent.I don't think X factor hinders talent.Plenty have become popular without having to go through that route.
Talent shows have been around for years the X factor is just a modern version.
A few famous people who have come through the talent show route Les Dawson, Tom O’ Connor, Roy Chubby Brown and Pam Ayres.

Your difference of opinion is that you're trying to tell him what he thinks.[/q


No pie chart joke?Please.

[Dameerto]

I think what our difference of opinion is that I see shows such as the X factor as progressions of shows like Opportunity Knocks,New Faces,Stars in Their Eyes which I don't think hindered the progress of talent.I don't think X factor hinders talent.Plenty have become popular without having to go through that route.
Talent shows have been around for years the X factor is just a modern version.
A few famous people who have come through the talent show route Les Dawson, Tom O’ Connor, Roy Chubby Brown and Pam Ayres.

Your difference of opinion is that you're trying to tell him what he thinks.

No pie chart joke?Please.

Here's a picture of your telepathic headgear instead

[Rag_hater]

I think what our difference of opinion is that I see shows such as the X factor as progressions of shows like Opportunity Knocks,New Faces,Stars in Their Eyes which I don't think hindered the progress of talent.I don't think X factor hinders talent.Plenty have become popular without having to go through that route.
Talent shows have been around for years the X factor is just a modern version.
A few famous people who have come through the talent show route Les Dawson, Tom O’ Connor, Roy Chubby Brown and Pam Ayres.

Your difference of opinion is that you're trying to tell him what he thinks.

No pie chart joke?Please.

Here's a picture of your telepathic headgear instead

Looks more like an American football helmet,think you have the wrong thing.Trying to hard mate.

[Dameerto]

maybe I'm just not on your wavelength.

[Rag_hater]

maybe I'm just not on your wavelength.

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