Just Watched The Sending Off Again...

[Blue Since 76]

Same here, my friend (a rag) hashad contact with 10 or 15 fellow refs and they all think it was a red. Wankers.

If that's a red, slide type tackles have basically been outlawed. It wasn't a foul (didn't touch the man) and wasn't careless or excessive. If you watch all the games tonight or on Saturday, I guarantee you will see players sliding in and making great tackles. Yes, if they miss the ball and get the man it could hurt them, so does that mean they will all get yellow or red cards?

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Nani's reaction is the only thing the appeal panal need to look at.

Nani and Giggs I thought. Both just carried on playing and we wll know the scum usually go OTT if they think they can influence a ref in something. Maybe that's why shrek got motm ,because he was thinking scum properly.

[Blue Toy]

A world class tackle. If an England player was to get sent off for a tackle like that at this Summer's Euros there would be a national outcry.

[Andy, lincs]

Same here, my friend (a rag) hashad contact with 10 or 15 fellow refs and they all think it was a red. Wankers.

If that's a red, slide type tackles have basically been outlawed. It wasn't a foul (didn't touch the man) and wasn't careless or excessive. If you watch all the games tonight or on Saturday, I guarantee you will see players sliding in and making great tackles. Yes, if they miss the ball and get the man it could hurt them, so does that mean they will all get yellow or red cards?

I quite agree. I wonder, keeping it relevant, how many tackles similar to Kompanys that Scholes has got away with over the years due to him being excused for not being able to tackle. Our case rests on Foy in the next 24 hours. If he comes out and says he misjudged the ferocity and nature of the tackle then we stand a decent chance of winning an appeal. If he doesn't we will miss Vinnie for 4 IMO.

[ross.mcfc]

Admittedly its from the Scottish Football Refs guidlines but

"any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind, using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play."

I do not think we will win an appeal.

[smj996c]

Admittedly its from the Scottish Football Refs guidlines but

"any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind, using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play."

I do not think we will win an appeal.

Grounds for optimism perhaps?

"The ruling for a two-footed challenge is that the moment a player leaves the floor, he is not in control of his own body," explained Referees' Development Officer for Manchester FA, Peter Roberts.

"If he takes the ball cleanly, it is a free-kick and a caution. If he takes the ball and the man, it is a free-kick and a dismissal for serious foul play.

"If he takes nothing of the ball and only the man, it is a dis- missal for serious foul play. The only instance in which he can escape a dismissal is if he takes the ball and not the man."

should be a good shout for appeal.

[Beefymcfc]

Is there a link to it anywhere? not seen a replay yet and i was sat at the other side of the ground...

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Good to see you're still around.

Also, a better one on this link [urlnp=http://theoriginalwinger.com/2012-01-08-video-vincent-kompanys-red-card-vs-manchester-united-fa-cup]Here[/urlnp].

[Blue Toy]

[Fesan]

Admittedly its from the Scottish Football Refs guidlines but

"any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind, using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play."

I do not think we will win an appeal.

Giggs should have had a red then for the tackle on Aguero?

[Nigels Tackle]

nigel's favourite type of tackle. he'd better watch himself now...

very much doubt we'll win our appeal

[King Kev]

Admittedly its from the Scottish Football Refs guidlines but

"any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind, using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play."

I do not think we will win an appeal.

These are the important words in this rule.

We should win the appeal, hopefully Mr Bernstein will ensure justice is done.

[Goataldo]

Said exactly the same as most on here, unsurprisingly. Knew he'd won the ball and was shocked and appalled at Rooney, who continued, with some success, to influence the ref throughout the game, the club foot faced oaf.

[freshie]

Watching your GIF doesn't fill me with hope. That angle shows him going in with both of his feet off the ground and I think the panel will use that as an excuse to uphold the original red card. I have seen plenty of players receive red cards for similar challenges

[Blue Toy]

Watching your GIF doesn't fill me with hope. That angle shows him going in with both of his feet off the ground and I think the panel will use that as an excuse to uphold the original red card

That was my initial reaction too, but now I'm not so sure... if you watch it and watch it, I think his right leg is actually on the ground when his left leg takes off. Very hard to tell.

[freshie]

Watching your GIF doesn't fill me with hope. That angle shows him going in with both of his feet off the ground and I think the panel will use that as an excuse to uphold the original red card

That was my initial reaction too, but now I'm not so sure... if you watch it and watch it, I think his right leg is actually on the ground when his left leg takes off. Very hard to tell.

I hope you're right but I have a feeling we are going to be in for disappointment with the appeal. Looking at the replay I don't understand why Vinny doesn't just go in with his right leg. Does he have to stick his left leg out as well, thus putting him in a position where he can get penalised?

[1950]

The thing you don't see from the perspective in that gif is the yard of space between Nani & the ball. It wasn't so much a tackle as a sliding move on a wet pitch to gain control of the ball. Which he did. Without touching the player. Yellow would've been harsh, but a red card for this? Outrageous.

[bluebananamilksheikh]

[Ted Hughes]

I'm right level with that & with the naked eye, the ball was won as clean as a whistle. It wasn't reckless, he was in total control of what he was doing, took the ball cleanly & brought it out. If it had been a red card offence, Nani would have been milking it & every single rag would have been at the ref, not just Rooney.

[bluebananamilksheikh]

[Beefymcfc]

They used to say tackling was an art and Vince has become a master of it. We are told that these things have to be taken into consideration as was the Lampard tackle in the Wolves game, yet even though he actually hit the player and should have seen red, his previous conduct was taken into consideration and only a yellow was given. Vince has been nothing more than a model professional so why isn't this taken into consideration?

To many inconsistencies to call it as just bad refereeing.