Appeal rejected

[mr_nool]

To be fair, he's not talking about home grown players, but about organic growth in a financial sense.

What you mean how they could afford to sign Schmeichel, Bruce, Pallister, Hughes, Irwin, Ince, Phelan, McClair, Webb, Wallace, etc etc etc with gates similar to ours now ?

I don't argue about their spending spree in the 80's not being organic, but just thought that those who brought up every player United ever bought as an example of inorganic growth didn't seem to get the point.

[Ted Hughes]

I always hated this concept of us "buying" trophies. The only thing that we did was to go at the same financial level as the big clubs and this is annoying for a lot o people. They were used for us to buy players like Bosvelt, Macken, good players, but not world class and seeing that now we can bid alongside them for everyone in this world, makes them furious.
It was like yesterday when the "good management" of Old Trafford, bought Kleberson, Djemba-Djemba, Fortune and Bellion for almost 60 mil.

The original side that Ferguson bought would have cost much more than City's current one. He filled it with the absolute TOP English targets, pretty much ALL OF THEM. Imagine the cost today of buying every single top rated English born player available, all at once ?

If the rag twat comes back in another guise, he's going to get the same questions. None of them will ever talk about it because it's against their conditioning.

[Tokyo Blue]

I always hated this concept of us "buying" trophies. The only thing that we did was to go at the same financial level as the big clubs and this is annoying for a lot o people. They were used for us to buy players like Bosvelt, Macken, good players, but not world class and seeing that now we can bid alongside them for everyone in this world, makes them furious.
It was like yesterday when the "good management" of Old Trafford, bought Kleberson, Djemba-Djemba, Fortune and Bellion for almost 60 mil.

The original side that Ferguson bought would have cost much more than City's current one. He filled it with the absolute TOP English targets, pretty much ALL OF THEM. Imagine the cost today of buying every single top rated English born player available, all at once ?

If the rag twat comes back in another guise, he's going to get the same questions. None of them will ever talk about it because it's against their conditioning.

Can you exepct anything from a pig but a grunt?

[Ted Hughes]

To be fair, he's not talking about home grown players, but about organic growth in a financial sense.

What you mean how they could afford to sign Schmeichel, Bruce, Pallister, Hughes, Irwin, Ince, Phelan, McClair, Webb, Wallace, etc etc etc with gates similar to ours now ?

I don't argue about their spending spree in the 80's not being organic, but just thought that those who brought up every player United ever bought as an example of inorganic growth didn't seem to get the point.

There isn't a point. He was on a wind up & asked the wrong question. We answered. He doesn't like where it leads so he changes the subject. All rags do the same; they are shithouses. a soon as they are on thin ice, they change the subject.

This is why nobody in football has any respect for them.

[Mikhail Chigorin]

This Rag insect now infesting our site only confirms my opinion of them all which is :- 'The only good Rag is a dead one'.......although even then I'm not so sure.

Perhaps FF ought to jigger off, top himself and do us all a favour.

[Dameerto]

He'll be back after his lecture - I said yesterday he's got Uni cunt written all over him.

[Ted Hughes]

He'll be back after his lecture - I said yesterday he's got Uni cunt written all over him.

He'll probably return with some 'witty' name which has us humbled by his invention & cutting humour. they really are such wits, the rags.

[Mase]

Lads u hit the nail on the head with the Ron Atkinson spending and massive fergie spending at the start. I'm 31 and a lot of my generation don't even know that. They are so wrapped up in the "we don't spend"spin they don't realise. Top point with keanes wages as Well being more than all ours. Another one is, remember the 2-1 with erikson at old Trafford . Fergie banged on pre match about us spending . Then brought 2 subs on( carrick and Anderson ) who combined cost more than our whole team! Spending was never mentioned then. We all know it's not possible to challenge for the title without spending. Norwich were the last team to do that, so united went out and broke the transfer record again with cole etc to get rid of them.
Personally, all my cousins and uncles etc are all big reds who follow united everywhere, for whatever reason my dad decided to support city!
To be fair they are top lads , every one of them said no way was it a sending off. And if was them they'd be going mad.
This weirdo on here will probably tell us he's a seasonticket holder blah blah blah. But I'm guessing he a clown with no bird, can't produce kids and even his mates can't stand him. How would u have time to go on another fans site and bang on . Are we that important now!!
If u read this weirdo, don't bother replying, I'm off to eastlands for the 3rd time in 7 days to support my team. Barely have time for this site , never mind a united one. Get yourself some pennies together and get down a brass gaff. That might chill u out and stop u from chatting turd on other fans sites. Xx

Nice post.

[lets all have a disco]

Vincent just posted this on Facebook.

Dear all,

I appealed because I obviously completely disagreed with the interpretation of the officials on the day but that happens in football and we move on. I wonder though if we are now going to see an unprecedented wave of red cards on match days because we sanction "if's" and "maybe's"? Are we going to look back at video evidence for every single challenge that goes unnoticed by the officials, look at different scenarios and potential outcomes of what could have been considered a good tackle and then sanction it? Players and managers are starting to expect more sending offs from referees and I think it's for the wrong reasons. My understanding is that English football prides itself on the hardness, the fairness and the tradition of its game. That is why hundreds of millions of people tune in to watch Premier League football and English referees have always been a key factor to that success in my opinion. So I don't agree with people saying that referees in this country aren't doing well as I think they are the best in the world. Hopefully common sense will prevail again in the future and I for one hope not to see consistency in sending offs and suspensions when the intent of a player is to win the ball.

I'd like to add to this that I waited for the suspension to be confirmed before making any comments on the matter as I didn't want to give the impression that I was using the media as a tool to benefit my own personal agenda in this case. I'm not speaking on behalf of the club or anybody else, this isn't me defending myself, this is just me raising a genuine concern.

If football fans decide I'm wrong in raising these concerns then I will have no problem in accepting the fact that times are changing again for our game.

Vincent Kompany.


Very well mannered and intelligent.

[john68]

We had a perfectly good thread, discussing a perfectly good and relevent topic about City. Then some rag cunt comes on here and you hand him the steering wheel.
You bunch of idiots have just allowed some thicko rags scumbag to control what you are thinking. He is not here to debate and discuss, he is here to take the piss and you lot are lining yourselves up as targets.

The gig is quite simple, early last year, the next target in our sights, on our journey were the rags. We have overtaken them. Our club is planning for the future not the past. City have no interest where they were last season, it is all about where we will be in the coming seasons. The rags are last year...we have other targets to our front to consider.

This lonely billy no mates can't handle that. He is a voice from the past, like a straggler in a retreat, shouting "Hey I'm here, Please remember me"....sad but that's his business. Leave him alone, stopping to be distracted by him will only stop you moving into our wonderful future.

At some point a Sunderland, Fulham or QPR forum will take his fancy and he'll seek consolation and friends (he obviously has none of his own ilk) from a club that matches the level his own club have fallen to.

Never forget that rags are not like us, they are lesser beings...sort of not quite as fully human as the rest of us.

[Ted Hughes]

Excellent from Vinny.

[john68]

Excellent from Vinny.

I posted that just at the right time Ted hahahahahaha.I am quite sure that your comment was directed at my post and not the one above.

,,,,,erm!!!!!

[Yffi_88]

LAHAD - probably worth putting that into a seperate topic.

Excellent to see that way of thinking from our captain.

[Hazy2]

Excellent from Vinny.

I posted that just at the right time Ted hahahahahaha.I am quite sure that your comment was directed at my post and not the one above.

,,,,,erm!!!!!

Happy New Year John, my rag brother was quiet on the way back Sunday , no usual ragmania from the rabbies riddled loon, he left the car with one or two words for my lad, not me I asked him what was that, He said United are in decline big time.For him that is major worry.

[Ted Hughes]

We had a perfectly good thread, discussing a perfectly good and relevent topic about City. Then some rag cunt comes on here and you hand him the steering wheel.
You bunch of idiots have just allowed some thicko rags scumbag to control what you are thinking. He is not here to debate and discuss, he is here to take the piss and you lot are lining yourselves up as targets.

The gig is quite simple, early last year, the next target in our sights, on our journey were the rags. We have overtaken them. Our club is planning for the future not the past. City have no interest where they were last season, it is all about where we will be in the coming seasons. The rags are last year...we have other targets to our front to consider.

This lonely billy no mates can't handle that. He is a voice from the past, like a straggler in a retreat, shouting "Hey I'm here, Please remember me"....sad but that's his business. Leave him alone, stopping to be distracted by him will only stop you moving into our wonderful future.

At some point a Sunderland, Fulham or QPR forum will take his fancy and he'll seek consolation and friends (he obviously has none of his own ilk) from a club that matches the level his own club have fallen to.

Never forget that rags are not like us, they are lesser beings...sort of not quite as fully human as the rest of us.

I am always ready & willing to offer rags the opportunity to discuss football properly & honestly if they wish to do so or be insulted if they prefer. Here or in a pub or anywhere. I find both things enjoyable as they can't win in either department. The fact that, when you stop the insults & offer them the opportunity, they are unable to offer any worthwhile point of view, imo just shows them up for what they are. I don't think that twerp has scored any points being on here. He's just proved that they are unable to answer any of the questions put to them, from their treatment of the Munich survivors to their buying of the title under Ferguson indeed even when they themselves pose the questions they stil can't formulate an argument to follow.

[Socrates]

He's gone for lunch again always round about 13.00 hrs.

Probably works for the Evening News, in which case he should be back around 4.

Agree with Mr68, reacting just gives him a chance to post more crap.

[Chinners]

We had a perfectly good thread, discussing a perfectly good and relevent topic about City. Then some rag cunt comes on here and you hand him the steering wheel.
You bunch of idiots have just allowed some thicko rags scumbag to control what you are thinking. He is not here to debate and discuss, he is here to take the piss and you lot are lining yourselves up as targets.

The gig is quite simple, early last year, the next target in our sights, on our journey were the rags. We have overtaken them. Our club is planning for the future not the past. City have no interest where they were last season, it is all about where we will be in the coming seasons. The rags are last year...we have other targets to our front to consider.

This lonely billy no mates can't handle that. He is a voice from the past, like a straggler in a retreat, shouting "Hey I'm here, Please remember me"....sad but that's his business. Leave him alone, stopping to be distracted by him will only stop you moving into our wonderful future.

At some point a Sunderland, Fulham or QPR forum will take his fancy and he'll seek consolation and friends (he obviously has none of his own ilk) from a club that matches the level his own club have fallen to.

Never forget that rags are not like us, they are lesser beings...sort of not quite as fully human as the rest of us.

I am always ready & willing to offer rags the opportunity to discuss football properly & honestly if they wish to do so or be insulted if they prefer. Here or in a pub or anywhere. I find both things enjoyable as they can't win in either department. The fact that, when you stop the insults & offer them the opportunity, they are unable to offer any worthwhile point of view, imo just shows them up for what they are. I don't think that twerp has scored any points being on here. He's just proved that they are unable to answer any of the questions put to them, from their treatment of the Munich survivors to their buying of the title under Ferguson indeed even when they themselves pose the questions they stil can't formulate an argument to follow.

Indeed ... I was still waiting for his view on that tackle by Giggs just after VK's one ... the best way in my opinion is to always politely pass the rope and feed out as much as they wish to use.

[john68]

Zurich,

With all that shite disrupting what was a decent discussion and posters on here allowing him to duvert a perfectly good thread onto his own agenda, I'm somewhat confused as to whether your answer to my FA is POLITICAL post was even on this thread or some other.
,
Anyway, back to the business in hand. No Mate I don't think that all appeals are useless nor was I aiming to say what happened yesterday was as extreme as that.
My point is that the Kompany appeal had a larger political issue surrounding it and the FA tribunal, independant or not, took or were told to take them into consideration.

The Manchester bombers were known to the police and named publicly by the Manchester Evening News. No action ensued. A decision was taken politically that to do so would not serve the public good....Manchester and justice were sacrificed.
Similarly, the FA, as custodians of our game, have sacrificed City, Kompany and justice in the (misguided?) perceived integrlty of referees.

[zuricity]

We had a perfectly good thread, discussing a perfectly good and relevent topic about City. Then some rag cunt comes on here and you hand him the steering wheel.
You bunch of idiots have just allowed some thicko rags scumbag to control what you are thinking. He is not here to debate and discuss, he is here to take the piss and you lot are lining yourselves up as targets.

The gig is quite simple, early last year, the next target in our sights, on our journey were the rags. We have overtaken them. Our club is planning for the future not the past. City have no interest where they were last season, it is all about where we will be in the coming seasons. The rags are last year...we have other targets to our front to consider.

This lonely billy no mates can't handle that. He is a voice from the past, like a straggler in a retreat, shouting "Hey I'm here, Please remember me"....sad but that's his business. Leave him alone, stopping to be distracted by him will only stop you moving into our wonderful future.

At some point a Sunderland, Fulham or QPR forum will take his fancy and he'll seek consolation and friends (he obviously has none of his own ilk) from a club that matches the level his own club have fallen to.

Never forget that rags are not like us, they are lesser beings...sort of not quite as fully human as the rest of us.

Which is why i ignored him .. good points again john68....

Patience isn't easy to master. Especially as we all like the banter on this site.

I don't agree with many of the things that get written, I sometimes get cheesed off with the obviousness of some of the answers.

There were so many things wrong with Foy's performance on Sunday , not just against City , but also against United, so many inconsistencies , it becomes very frustrating and annoying.

Far more disturbing for me than the fact that we have lost Vinnie for four games ( and that really is a blow). Far more disturbing, is the way Nani's Elbow check wasn't picked up, or conveniently ignored. Nani again a little later slapping another player going for the ball, Slowcoaches Jones and Carrick, hitting the players , Evra slapping Kun, The linesman flagging Milner for no reason when Wio is kicking him in the knee whilst he is doing his utmost to get up ( it wasn't as if jimmie was tryng to smother the ball !).

United knew, just like when they kicked Sweep off the park some seasons ago that the cheating route was their only option. I mean, does Jones really think that we can't see through his cheating when he pounds his breast claiming it isn't a handball when in fact he slid in to block the ball with his body and his hands and arms touched the ball several times ? ( I had a perfect view from behind the goal, I didn't need a replay ).

Does Rooney really think that he gains the respect of any supporter for his behaviour ? His hacking at players, his two footed lunges into players ( Champions league last year). Do these morons think we forget ?

[bigblue]

Vincent just posted this on Facebook.

Dear all,

I appealed because I obviously completely disagreed with the interpretation of the officials on the day but that happens in football and we move on. I wonder though if we are now going to see an unprecedented wave of red cards on match days because we sanction "if's" and "maybe's"? Are we going to look back at video evidence for every single challenge that goes unnoticed by the officials, look at different scenarios and potential outcomes of what could have been considered a good tackle and then sanction it? Players and managers are starting to expect more sending offs from referees and I think it's for the wrong reasons. My understanding is that English football prides itself on the hardness, the fairness and the tradition of its game. That is why hundreds of millions of people tune in to watch Premier League football and English referees have always been a key factor to that success in my opinion. So I don't agree with people saying that referees in this country aren't doing well as I think they are the best in the world. Hopefully common sense will prevail again in the future and I for one hope not to see consistency in sending offs and suspensions when the intent of a player is to win the ball.

I'd like to add to this that I waited for the suspension to be confirmed before making any comments on the matter as I didn't want to give the impression that I was using the media as a tool to benefit my own personal agenda in this case. I'm not speaking on behalf of the club or anybody else, this isn't me defending myself, this is just me raising a genuine concern.

If football fans decide I'm wrong in raising these concerns then I will have no problem in accepting the fact that times are changing again for our game.

Vincent Kompany.


Very well mannered and intelligent.

Quality letter from VInny, makes me proud to have him as our captain. What is brilliant about it is how Kompany manages to appeal to the traditional values of English football while praising the refs. Makes his point resonate much more strongly.

Has already been picked up by a bunch of outlets:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012 ... any-appeal
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... s'?cc=5901
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -soft.html

Hopefully this can actually start a discussion on the incredibly soft direction that the sport is heading. Goes to show that people take a well written letter more seriously than a 140 character twat written in 1/2 English.