Appeal rejected

[Seanyod]

Cheers mate...... Excellent by kompany . Rooney and wio , it's called having class

[john68]

Some good points Zurich Mate.
Despite how we may view some of the stuff the FA does and some of the decisions they make, the FA are NOT idiots. They know what they are doing, even when it is wrong.

They will be well aware of Foy's piss poor performance, not only last Sunday but his recent debacles and horrific mistakes in other games. They will also be well aare of the general level of poor refereeing performances this season and they will not be happy. The FA will be fully aware that there was nothing wrong with Kompany's tackle.

To have rescinded the red card would not only have undermined Foy but all referees and we all know that the FA have always defended (the integrity of????) referees through hell and high water. For the FA, it isn't, nor ever has been a question of right, wrong or even natural justice. It has always been about the defence of the referee.

Never forget that right, wrong or justice never enters the equation if any football person publicly critises a ref. Refs never have to answer to their mistakes publically and cannot be questioned. Referees are untouchable and the FA will defend that position to the end.

City, Kompany and justice were sacrifised on the alter of refereeing and that untouchable position.

[john68]

Zurich,
Your 2nd and seperate post regarding rag cheating was well made but it understandable for them.

Their club is slowly bleeding away in every department. The Glazers are raping their assets and the rags are unable to strengthen their squad as they would wish. Their position at the top of the Prem is under threat from us and as Taggart has warned, we are not going to go away. They matched the challenges of the past and eventually saw off the threats of Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea. They had the resources to do so.

City are a different threat, WE have the resources and they don't. We are on the up and still developing upwards. They are clinging on desperately in a worsening situation, full in the knowledge that at some point their fingers will loosen and they will slip down a bit more.

DESPERATION is the word. No resources to improve on the pitch and compete at the level they want. DESPERATION MEANS DESPERATE MEASURES...AND BOY....ARE THEY DESPERATE.

Expect more kicking screaming on the pitch...more irrational attacks on City in the press and far more dangerously. BEWARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON AT THE TOP LEVEL, WITHIN THE ECA, UeFA, FIFA AND STATEMENTS BY THEIR POODLE RUMMINIGGE. That is where the real danger to us will emanate....I kid you not.

[zuricity]

Zurich,
Your 2nd and seperate post regarding rag cheating was well made but it understandable for them.

Their club is slowly bleeding away in every department. The Glazers are raping their assets and the rags are unable to strengthen their squad as they would wish. Their position at the top of the Prem is under threat from us and as Taggart has warned, we are not going to go away. They matched the challenges of the past and eventually saw off the threats of Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea. They had the resources to do so.

City are a different threat, WE have the resources and they don't. We are on the up and still developing upwards. They are clinging on desperately in a worsening situation, full in the knowledge that at some point their fingers will loosen and they will slip down a bit more.

DESPERATION is the word. No resources to improve on the pitch and compete at the level they want. DESPERATION MEANS DESPERATE MEASURES...AND BOY....ARE THEY DESPERATE.

Expect more kicking screaming on the pitch...more irrational attacks on City in the press and far more dangerously. BEWARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON AT THE TOP LEVEL, WITHIN THE ECA, UeFA, FIFA AND STATEMENTS BY THEIR POODLE RUMMINIGGE. That is where the real danger to us will emanate....I kid you not.

All good points and I think when they slip away , their fall from grace will be worse than Liverpool has experienced in recent years.

At least Arsenal have their credit under control. Chelsea still have Abrahmo, who will keep putting money in , why not ?
United know they can't float shares in Singapore because the Chinese and Asians that they might try to get to buy shares know what to invest in. The debt at OT is astronomical :-)

[john68]

The only factor that worries me in any of this is the role that might be played by the ECA.
While I was away from the board, I read some quite intiguing stuff about them, their role and the amount of power they exert, all the way up to FIFA level.

I have intended for a while to open a thread on them and publicise their activities. That great City fan Karl Heinz Ruminigge is a major player on the World football/political stage and is lining himself up for a tilt at Platini's position when (if) Platini goes for Blatter's jugular. He has already threatened a European breakaway and he could just have the friends and power to get it through.

Despite our cash, we seem to be ill represented and ill equipped to defend ourselves at the level we are aiming for.

[Dameerto]

The fact we dont seem to have any overt support in Europe (or wider) at various levels doesn't mean we don't have support covertly. I'd be very surprised if the Sheikh (or rather his trusted people) haven't been networking. Bailing out the league's sponsor didn't happen accidentally (even if he made a tidy profit from it) in my opinion, and playing host to training camps for international teams (a couple of who's players represent City) isn't coincidence either. All opportunities to have informal chats and build relationships.

[Beefymcfc]

Vincent just posted this on Facebook.

Dear all,

I appealed because I obviously completely disagreed with the interpretation of the officials on the day but that happens in football and we move on. I wonder though if we are now going to see an unprecedented wave of red cards on match days because we sanction "if's" and "maybe's"? Are we going to look back at video evidence for every single challenge that goes unnoticed by the officials, look at different scenarios and potential outcomes of what could have been considered a good tackle and then sanction it? Players and managers are starting to expect more sending offs from referees and I think it's for the wrong reasons. My understanding is that English football prides itself on the hardness, the fairness and the tradition of its game. That is why hundreds of millions of people tune in to watch Premier League football and English referees have always been a key factor to that success in my opinion. So I don't agree with people saying that referees in this country aren't doing well as I think they are the best in the world. Hopefully common sense will prevail again in the future and I for one hope not to see consistency in sending offs and suspensions when the intent of a player is to win the ball.

I'd like to add to this that I waited for the suspension to be confirmed before making any comments on the matter as I didn't want to give the impression that I was using the media as a tool to benefit my own personal agenda in this case. I'm not speaking on behalf of the club or anybody else, this isn't me defending myself, this is just me raising a genuine concern.

If football fans decide I'm wrong in raising these concerns then I will have no problem in accepting the fact that times are changing again for our game.

Vincent Kompany.


Very well mannered and intelligent.

I maybe a little late to comment but that was one well thought out and scripted message. Absolutely brilliant, well done Vincent.

[john68]

The fact we dont seem to have any overt support in Europe (or wider) at various levels doesn't mean we don't have support covertly. I'd be very surprised if the Sheikh (or rather his trusted people) haven't been networking. Bailing out the league's sponsor didn't happen accidentally (even if he made a tidy profit from it) in my opinion, and playing host to training camps for international teams (a couple of who's players represent City) isn't coincidence either. All opportunities to have informal chats and build relationships.

With the demise of the detested old G14, I thought that democracy had arrived within football. DO NOT BE FOOLED. The increased number of clubs under the ECA banner gives them increased power. Be under no illusion, the old order still exists, it controls the ECA, which has now got a seat at the FIFA top table....More clubs = more power and at a very much higher level.

City are well down the pecking order, as are other nouveau riche clubs. We have no friends at the top because they fear us and fewer friends at the bottom because they can't compete with us.DANGEROUS TIMES FOR CITY

[zuricity]

Indeed ! I fully expect bayern to reach the final of the cl in their own stadium.

Karl Heinz had a dig at Platini and Uefa. His dig was actually well justified, although it was coming from one of the g14 teams and smacked of their arrogance, it did point out the stupidity of Platinis ideas .

However, i don't trust Bayern anymore than i trust united. Certainly though, Bayern won't go belly up as United could do.