Savic Off?

[Wooders]

get rid of savic and Ned - get a new CB to partner Kompany - lescott and Toure 3rd and 4th choices respectively
EASY

[Ted Hughes]

get rid of savic and Ned - get a new CB to partner Kompany - lescott and Toure 3rd and 4th choices respectively
EASY

Not so easy imo having looked up some of the contenders people have mentioned on here. Not saying they're bad players but even in the Youtube wankfests, I've found stuff hidden in there which would have Carl raving like a madman had it been Lescott. Being a Premier League CB isn't easy. Look how many duffers Utd, Arsenal & now Chelsea, have signed over the years.

[MaineRoadMemories]

Savic doesn't handle a turn of pace well at all - he hasn't in any of the games I've watched him play in either.

He'll often show the attacker around the outside which is the sensible thing to do but unfortunately for him he gets beaten for pace most times. I fear for him if he is playing against Defoe on Sunday as he rolls a centreback better than most.

Another common aspect of his game - which will be down to his youth - is the need for him to win the ball every time he's up against a player. Many occasions the ball is not there to be won and he has to shepherd the player out of danger. Instead he dives in or goes through the back giving away freekicks in the most dangerous of areas.

[Ted Hughes]

Savic doesn't handle a turn of pace well at all - he hasn't in any of the games I've watched him play in either.

He'll often show the attacker around the outside which is the sensible thing to do but unfortunately for him he gets beaten for pace most times. I fear for him if he is playing against Defoe on Sunday as he rolls a centreback better than most.

Another common aspect of his game - which will be down to his youth - is the need for him to win the ball every time he's up against a player. Many occasions the ball is not there to be won and he has to shepherd the player out of danger. Instead he dives in or goes through the back giving away freekicks in the most dangerous of areas.

I agree with all of that but at least he showed a bit of grit & determination v Wigan, albeit against fairly average physical specimins. I still don't see why we chose him above any other 20 year old though.

[RodneyRodney]

there are some real f* moaners on here tonight . Lescott did pretty well and Savic looked better. I would play both against Spurs - no Crouch , no Adebayor and Defoe is slower these days and has only scored about 5 goals in the last 13 years , , ,

[john@staustell]

Savic had a decent game in what was ONLY his 2nd Premier start. We ket a clean sheet and Wigan had one shot.

Soon Kompany, Yaya and Kolo will be back and all the garden will be rosy again.

[shortagain]

Savic doesn't handle a turn of pace well at all - he hasn't in any of the games I've watched him play in either.

He'll often show the attacker around the outside which is the sensible thing to do but unfortunately for him he gets beaten for pace most times. I fear for him if he is playing against Defoe on Sunday as he rolls a centreback better than most.

Another common aspect of his game - which will be down to his youth - is the need for him to win the ball every time he's up against a player. Many occasions the ball is not there to be won and he has to shepherd the player out of danger. Instead he dives in or goes through the back giving away freekicks in the most dangerous of areas.

Bit like Kompany then

[CityGer]

Savic doesn't handle a turn of pace well at all - he hasn't in any of the games I've watched him play in either.

He'll often show the attacker around the outside which is the sensible thing to do but unfortunately for him he gets beaten for pace most times. I fear for him if he is playing against Defoe on Sunday as he rolls a centreback better than most.

Another common aspect of his game - which will be down to his youth - is the need for him to win the ball every time he's up against a player. Many occasions the ball is not there to be won and he has to shepherd the player out of danger. Instead he dives in or goes through the back giving away freekicks in the most dangerous of areas.

Very accurate.

His inability to turn is his biggest weakness. Yes, he's a bit rash but I hope that he'll learn when and when not to commit through time. However, his lack of acceleration and his turning speed are probably not going to get any better and he's going to have to develop his reading of the game considerably if he is to cut the mustard.

There have been plenty of top quality centre halfs who lack pace but they have excellent game intelligence and are a second ahead of the attacker in their head. The question is whether he can develop that sort of intuition and how quickly.

[mr_nool]

Savic doesn't handle a turn of pace well at all - he hasn't in any of the games I've watched him play in either.

He'll often show the attacker around the outside which is the sensible thing to do but unfortunately for him he gets beaten for pace most times. I fear for him if he is playing against Defoe on Sunday as he rolls a centreback better than most.

Another common aspect of his game - which will be down to his youth - is the need for him to win the ball every time he's up against a player. Many occasions the ball is not there to be won and he has to shepherd the player out of danger. Instead he dives in or goes through the back giving away freekicks in the most dangerous of areas.

Very accurate.

His inability to turn is his biggest weakness. Yes, he's a bit rash but I hope that he'll learn when and when not to commit through time. However, his lack of acceleration and his turning speed are probably not going to get any better and he's going to have to develop his reading of the game considerably if he is to cut the mustard.

There have been plenty of top quality centre halfs who lack pace but they have excellent game intelligence and are a second ahead of the attacker in their head. The question is whether he can develop that sort of intuition and how quickly.

Neither of those are impossible to learn (not saying that you're claiming that it is). Just look at Zabba who over committed all the time when he'd just started playing for City.

[CityGer]

Savic doesn't handle a turn of pace well at all - he hasn't in any of the games I've watched him play in either.

He'll often show the attacker around the outside which is the sensible thing to do but unfortunately for him he gets beaten for pace most times. I fear for him if he is playing against Defoe on Sunday as he rolls a centreback better than most.

Another common aspect of his game - which will be down to his youth - is the need for him to win the ball every time he's up against a player. Many occasions the ball is not there to be won and he has to shepherd the player out of danger. Instead he dives in or goes through the back giving away freekicks in the most dangerous of areas.

Very accurate.

His inability to turn is his biggest weakness. Yes, he's a bit rash but I hope that he'll learn when and when not to commit through time. However, his lack of acceleration and his turning speed are probably not going to get any better and he's going to have to develop his reading of the game considerably if he is to cut the mustard.

There have been plenty of top quality centre halfs who lack pace but they have excellent game intelligence and are a second ahead of the attacker in their head. The question is whether he can develop that sort of intuition and how quickly.

Neither of those are impossible to learn (not saying that you're claiming that it is). Just look at Zabba who over committed all the time when he'd just started playing for City.

Did you read the post?

[Hazy2]

TBH heart in mouth when JL or Savic are on the ball, both need VK who is a class above when it comes to the ball into midfield I like JL, I just would prefer him to do the basics and not get dragged out of position when a slice into his own net looks poss.

[mr_nool]

Savic doesn't handle a turn of pace well at all - he hasn't in any of the games I've watched him play in either.

He'll often show the attacker around the outside which is the sensible thing to do but unfortunately for him he gets beaten for pace most times. I fear for him if he is playing against Defoe on Sunday as he rolls a centreback better than most.

Another common aspect of his game - which will be down to his youth - is the need for him to win the ball every time he's up against a player. Many occasions the ball is not there to be won and he has to shepherd the player out of danger. Instead he dives in or goes through the back giving away freekicks in the most dangerous of areas.

Very accurate.

His inability to turn is his biggest weakness. Yes, he's a bit rash but I hope that he'll learn when and when not to commit through time. However, his lack of acceleration and his turning speed are probably not going to get any better and he's going to have to develop his reading of the game considerably if he is to cut the mustard.

There have been plenty of top quality centre halfs who lack pace but they have excellent game intelligence and are a second ahead of the attacker in their head. The question is whether he can develop that sort of intuition and how quickly.

Neither of those are impossible to learn (not saying that you're claiming that it is). Just look at Zabba who over committed all the time when he'd just started playing for City.

Did you read the post?

Sorry, phone conference and reading/posting on here is not a great combo. I meant to say that he can easily learn not to over commit (like Zabaleta). Neither is reading to learn the game better to compensate for his lack of pace/mobility.

Re-reading your post, though, I realize that mine was pretty redundant.

[carl_feedthegoat]

I agree, he did alright. Didn't do any real crucial defending but didn't make any terrible mistakes either. Decent. Still don't want to see him v Spurs though.

Dead right , i don't want to see Nedum play either. savic looked very good tonight.

We nearly let one in when Nedum and alien head couldn't decide what to do....luckily biblical ally handballed it otherwise them 2 would have been strung up by now.

You're a cunt! If I was a City player, I reckon I'd be intrigued enough to pop onto 'fans' sites from time-to-time just to hear what they had to say.. if I was Lescott and I did, I'd find a 'fan' referring to my horrific accident injuries as 'alien head'! As I said, you're a cunt and an illiterate one too!

Savic did alright tonight.

My A level in English literature and English Language says otherwise Miss Whitehouse.

Alien head still stands.

[Hazy2]

I agree, he did alright. Didn't do any real crucial defending but didn't make any terrible mistakes either. Decent. Still don't want to see him v Spurs though.

Dead right , i don't want to see Nedum play either. savic looked very good tonight.

We nearly let one in when Nedum and alien head couldn't decide what to do....luckily biblical ally handballed it otherwise them 2 would have been strung up by now.

You're a cunt! If I was a City player, I reckon I'd be intrigued enough to pop onto 'fans' sites from time-to-time just to hear what they had to say.. if I was Lescott and I did, I'd find a 'fan' referring to my horrific accident injuries as 'alien head'! As I said, you're a cunt and an illiterate one too!

Savic did alright tonight.

My A level in English literature and English Language says otherwise Miss Whitehouse.

Alien head still stands.

Tbh, if you look back at the game in Naples they were the 1st side to target JL's lack of a pass, Cavanni & Co marked VK, plus tight to our MF, Hart had tog give it to JL we turned over the ball from 2-1 down.

[Ted Hughes]

We, & Barca did the same to Utd. Their CB's are supposd to be great on the ball. The midfield should come & take the ball off the defence not leave it with defenders, none of whom, incuding Vinny, are great at passing & all of whom, including Vinny, give the ball away regularly when trying to be clever. At least Lescott knows he's shit on the ball & tries not to lose it.

Stop giving them & Hart the ball.

[carl_feedthegoat]

We, & Barca did the same to Utd. Their CB's are supposd to be great on the ball. The midfield should come & take the ball off the defence not leave it with defenders, none of whom, incuding Vinny, are great at passing & all of whom, including Vinny, give the ball away regularly when trying to be clever. At least Lescott knows he's shit on the ball & tries not to lose it.

Stop giving them & Hart the ball.

I agree with this..Id never give the fuckign ball to Lescott , he can just fuckign stand there and do the odd sideways pass just so long as its few and far between.

Hart to pass to Clichy or Micah..at least then we will have forward motion.

[Hazy2]

We, & Barca did the same to Utd. Their CB's are supposd to be great on the ball. The midfield should come & take the ball off the defence not leave it with defenders, none of whom, incuding Vinny, are great at passing & all of whom, including Vinny, give the ball away regularly when trying to be clever. At least Lescott knows he's shit on the ball & tries not to lose it.

Stop giving them & Hart the ball.

Barca are light years ahead of us on Movement, Pique has 4 options TO TAKE but will go right to Alves 8/10, get it back onto Xavi, Alves is bombing on your left side is all over the shop,they also have the fear factor teams press they get smashed, they sit back they concede ground they get tired,smashed. Wed night we will see what the Special 1 comes up with, he has 80,000 fans looking to see if he at last has the solution, if not the game could be up for him.

[PeterParker]

I am sorry for the lad, he did a fine first half, but two huge mistakes at this level can win/lose titles and we can't affort that.

[Mark (Blue Army)]

I am sorry for the lad, he did a fine first half, but two huge mistakes at this level can win/lose titles and we can't affort that.

Agree, he's just not up to are level yet. We need to start Zabaleta and Richards on Wednesday can't afford any mistakes at Anfield

[Tokyo Blue]

An Blue I know that was around at the time says he reminds him of Joe Corrigan, who some of you may remember didn't exactly cover himself in glory when he first got into the team. If he learns from his mistakes then he can become a much better player. If he doesn't, he won't. What will help him is his manager and team-mates showing belief in him.