PALUS wrote:and i m done sory for jocking litlle bit , we loose the game i dont like it, but blame one player it s funy , players alweys talk how hard is to play in Premire becose of presure , now i get it .....i will not open DZeko thread ever again its like 10 thread abaut him and the worst thing is the guy score evry other game , but fuck him, i can change opinion of balloteli lovers , the guy get two reds cost team a lot but hes not guilty :) Edin is :) hahahahaha
Goaters 103 wrote:And to some up with have Dzeko (woefully out of form), and Aguero (woefully out of form) as our striking options which can only be augmented by Mario (box of chocolates - "you never know what you gonna get") to see us through.
We are still short one striker to replace Tevez, and this may be the move we didnt make that we look back on when the "what ifs" start in May, if we do end up with f**k all, which is very plausable at the moment.
john68 wrote:Goaters 103 wrote:And to some up with have Dzeko (woefully out of form), and Aguero (woefully out of form) as our striking options which can only be augmented by Mario (box of chocolates - "you never know what you gonna get") to see us through.
We are still short one striker to replace Tevez, and this may be the move we didnt make that we look back on when the "what ifs" start in May, if we do end up with f**k all, which is very plausable at the moment.
....and that is why, should Tevez return and ever be match fit, I would (unhappily) play him. Considering the stick he has (deservedly) got, he just may have a point to prove with his shooting boots. Whoever and whatever he is, if we are paying him, we are paying him to work and not have a holiday at our, or Mancini's ego's, expense.
Should he help us win the title, I will loudly applaud the player, though will still be disgusted by the man. Tevez the player and employee of Manchester City and Tevez the greedy, coniving arsehole are two different entities.
john68 wrote:Goaters 103 wrote:And to some up with have Dzeko (woefully out of form), and Aguero (woefully out of form) as our striking options which can only be augmented by Mario (box of chocolates - "you never know what you gonna get") to see us through.
We are still short one striker to replace Tevez, and this may be the move we didnt make that we look back on when the "what ifs" start in May, if we do end up with f**k all, which is very plausable at the moment.
....and that is why, should Tevez return and ever be match fit, I would (unhappily) play him. Considering the stick he has (deservedly) got, he just may have a point to prove with his shooting boots. Whoever and whatever he is, if we are paying him, we are paying him to work and not have a holiday at our, or Mancini's ego's, expense.
Should he help us win the title, I will loudly applaud the player, though will still be disgusted by the man. Tevez the player and employee of Manchester City and Tevez the greedy, coniving arsehole are two different entities.
Hazy2 wrote:Good post John, Rooney, has fell out with Fergie, with full on screaming at each other according to rumour, they seem to understand the value to each other after a blow out. if Tevez, was asked he might laugh in our faces. He might say yes oh let's do it, but would that mean yes. We might need to ask to find out, problem IMHO RM would resign.
Dendza wrote:All fans have someone they don't like in their team, I think this is case with Dzeko. He hasn't been at his best lately and is struggling still with premier league. As for those who say that he doesn't run or try enough, they should know that thats the way he plays. He has played similarly in bundesliga and was the top scorer. why? Because he was the target man who was getting balls constantly. In city the ball goes through every player, even hart before it reaches one of the strikers. This is the problem, we complicate things for no reason, just give him some through balls/crosses and he will use them. Aguero was better than dzeko last night, and that is because the way city plays is good for him, and i really admire the player. But Dzeko is not being used at his best and that is what frustrates him on the pitch I believe. Clichy can't cross for shit, neither Richards can. Why do you think kolarov gets on to play on the left side? Too bad Mancini subbed him in70th minute expecting he will do something when there is 11 defenders of Everton. However to sum this up, dzeko isnt at his best and frustrates me also and many fans, but he also isn't used the way he should and if it continues like this i think its better for him to leave to SerieA or Spanish league.
Cheers
Dendza wrote:All fans have someone they don't like in their team, I think this is case with Dzeko. He hasn't been at his best lately and is struggling still with premier league. As for those who say that he doesn't run or try enough, they should know that thats the way he plays. He has played similarly in bundesliga and was the top scorer. why? Because he was the target man who was getting balls constantly. In city the ball goes through every player, even hart before it reaches one of the strikers. This is the problem, we complicate things for no reason, just give him some through balls/crosses and he will use them. Aguero was better than dzeko last night, and that is because the way city plays is good for him, and i really admire the player. But Dzeko is not being used at his best and that is what frustrates him on the pitch I believe. Clichy can't cross for shit, neither Richards can. Why do you think kolarov gets on to play on the left side? Too bad Mancini subbed him in70th minute expecting he will do something when there is 11 defenders of Everton. However to sum this up, dzeko isnt at his best and frustrates me also and many fans, but he also isn't used the way he should and if it continues like this i think its better for him to leave to SerieA or Spanish league.
Cheers
Ted Hughes wrote:Dendza wrote:All fans have someone they don't like in their team, I think this is case with Dzeko. He hasn't been at his best lately and is struggling still with premier league. As for those who say that he doesn't run or try enough, they should know that thats the way he plays. He has played similarly in bundesliga and was the top scorer. why? Because he was the target man who was getting balls constantly. In city the ball goes through every player, even hart before it reaches one of the strikers. This is the problem, we complicate things for no reason, just give him some through balls/crosses and he will use them. Aguero was better than dzeko last night, and that is because the way city plays is good for him, and i really admire the player. But Dzeko is not being used at his best and that is what frustrates him on the pitch I believe. Clichy can't cross for shit, neither Richards can. Why do you think kolarov gets on to play on the left side? Too bad Mancini subbed him in70th minute expecting he will do something when there is 11 defenders of Everton. However to sum this up, dzeko isnt at his best and frustrates me also and many fans, but he also isn't used the way he should and if it continues like this i think its better for him to leave to SerieA or Spanish league.
Cheers
When I watched him in the Bundesliga almost every time I saw him, I thought he was shit, even when he scored, because he was too casual. I missed a lot of his best games I think, but I still saw him quite a lot & I thought he looked like someone who would have a problem in the Premier League. When I saw him in the Champion's Lg against the rags, I thought he was really really shit even thouigh he scored; he should have had 5. His problem isn't scoring though, it's whether he helps the team enough even when he does score or whether, without him, someone else would score anyway as the team would play better.
I think he has tremendous ability. I don't buy this stuff where people say he has no first touch, I think he has a fantastic 1st touch but half the time is poncing about, diving, or trying to do something too clever, so loses the ball.
If he's been given the chance to play in the Prem, imo he should work his balls off to make the best of it. You don't cross to a bloke who is invisible & a wimp. If he got stuck in more, he would get better service. Do you think Shearer would stand about looking miserable if he wasn't getting the passes ? He'd go apeshit & demand the service. When it came, he'd fight like fuck to get on the end of it. If Dzeko does that, imo he will have no problem succeeding in the Prem. If he can't be arsed, he should go.
Ted Hughes wrote:Dendza wrote:All fans have someone they don't like in their team, I think this is case with Dzeko. He hasn't been at his best lately and is struggling still with premier league. As for those who say that he doesn't run or try enough, they should know that thats the way he plays. He has played similarly in bundesliga and was the top scorer. why? Because he was the target man who was getting balls constantly. In city the ball goes through every player, even hart before it reaches one of the strikers. This is the problem, we complicate things for no reason, just give him some through balls/crosses and he will use them. Aguero was better than dzeko last night, and that is because the way city plays is good for him, and i really admire the player. But Dzeko is not being used at his best and that is what frustrates him on the pitch I believe. Clichy can't cross for shit, neither Richards can. Why do you think kolarov gets on to play on the left side? Too bad Mancini subbed him in70th minute expecting he will do something when there is 11 defenders of Everton. However to sum this up, dzeko isnt at his best and frustrates me also and many fans, but he also isn't used the way he should and if it continues like this i think its better for him to leave to SerieA or Spanish league.
Cheers
When I watched him in the Bundesliga almost every time I saw him, I thought he was shit, even when he scored, because he was too casual. I missed a lot of his best games I think, but I still saw him quite a lot & I thought he looked like someone who would have a problem in the Premier League. When I saw him in the Champion's Lg against the rags, I thought he was really really shit even thouigh he scored; he should have had 5. His problem isn't scoring though, it's whether he helps the team enough even when he does score or whether, without him, someone else would score anyway as the team would play better.
I think he has tremendous ability. I don't buy this stuff where people say he has no first touch, I think he has a fantastic 1st touch but half the time is poncing about, diving, or trying to do something too clever, so loses the ball.
If he's been given the chance to play in the Prem, imo he should work his balls off to make the best of it. You don't cross to a bloke who is invisible & a wimp. If he got stuck in more, he would get better service. Do you think Shearer would stand about looking miserable if he wasn't getting the passes ? He'd go apeshit & demand the service. When it came, he'd fight like fuck to get on the end of it. If Dzeko does that, imo he will have no problem succeeding in the Prem. If he can't be arsed, he should go.
john68 wrote:
Paulus,
Sorry if this post offends mate, it is not intended to. Nor is it an attack on your good self but a previous poster is correct when he says that you take criticism of Dzecko as a personal attack on yourself and you react as such.
Dzecko is not as good as you beieve your hero to be. (Neither were several of my City heroes when I was younger). He was not the only player to fail last night but fail he did.
Dzecko is a one trick pony...he scores goals. That's his job. Apart from that, he adds little else to the team. When he is scoring goals, he is a hero but when he fails, he fails badly. Aguerro also scores goals, not as mant as Dzecko but when not scoring, he usually still adds to the team effort by his running off the ball, tracking back, creating space for others etc. Those are thingsthat Dzecko does not appear to do.
...and that my friend is why Aguerro gets forgiven at this time whilst Dzecko gets criticised.
Ted Hughes wrote:Dendza wrote:All fans have someone they don't like in their team, I think this is case with Dzeko. He hasn't been at his best lately and is struggling still with premier league. As for those who say that he doesn't run or try enough, they should know that thats the way he plays. He has played similarly in bundesliga and was the top scorer. why? Because he was the target man who was getting balls constantly. In city the ball goes through every player, even hart before it reaches one of the strikers. This is the problem, we complicate things for no reason, just give him some through balls/crosses and he will use them. Aguero was better than dzeko last night, and that is because the way city plays is good for him, and i really admire the player. But Dzeko is not being used at his best and that is what frustrates him on the pitch I believe. Clichy can't cross for shit, neither Richards can. Why do you think kolarov gets on to play on the left side? Too bad Mancini subbed him in70th minute expecting he will do something when there is 11 defenders of Everton. However to sum this up, dzeko isnt at his best and frustrates me also and many fans, but he also isn't used the way he should and if it continues like this i think its better for him to leave to SerieA or Spanish league.
Cheers
When I watched him in the Bundesliga almost every time I saw him, I thought he was shit, even when he scored, because he was too casual. I missed a lot of his best games I think, but I still saw him quite a lot & I thought he looked like someone who would have a problem in the Premier League. When I saw him in the Champion's Lg against the rags, I thought he was really really shit even thouigh he scored; he should have had 5. His problem isn't scoring though, it's whether he helps the team enough even when he does score or whether, without him, someone else would score anyway as the team would play better.
I think he has tremendous ability. I don't buy this stuff where people say he has no first touch, I think he has a fantastic 1st touch but half the time is poncing about, diving, or trying to do something too clever, so loses the ball.
If he's been given the chance to play in the Prem, imo he should work his balls off to make the best of it. You don't cross to a bloke who is invisible & a wimp. If he got stuck in more, he would get better service. Do you think Shearer would stand about looking miserable if he wasn't getting the passes ? He'd go apeshit & demand the service. When it came, he'd fight like fuck to get on the end of it. If Dzeko does that, imo he will have no problem succeeding in the Prem. If he can't be arsed, he should go.
Im_Spartacus wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Dendza wrote:All fans have someone they don't like in their team, I think this is case with Dzeko. He hasn't been at his best lately and is struggling still with premier league. As for those who say that he doesn't run or try enough, they should know that thats the way he plays. He has played similarly in bundesliga and was the top scorer. why? Because he was the target man who was getting balls constantly. In city the ball goes through every player, even hart before it reaches one of the strikers. This is the problem, we complicate things for no reason, just give him some through balls/crosses and he will use them. Aguero was better than dzeko last night, and that is because the way city plays is good for him, and i really admire the player. But Dzeko is not being used at his best and that is what frustrates him on the pitch I believe. Clichy can't cross for shit, neither Richards can. Why do you think kolarov gets on to play on the left side? Too bad Mancini subbed him in70th minute expecting he will do something when there is 11 defenders of Everton. However to sum this up, dzeko isnt at his best and frustrates me also and many fans, but he also isn't used the way he should and if it continues like this i think its better for him to leave to SerieA or Spanish league.
Cheers
When I watched him in the Bundesliga almost every time I saw him, I thought he was shit, even when he scored, because he was too casual. I missed a lot of his best games I think, but I still saw him quite a lot & I thought he looked like someone who would have a problem in the Premier League. When I saw him in the Champion's Lg against the rags, I thought he was really really shit even thouigh he scored; he should have had 5. His problem isn't scoring though, it's whether he helps the team enough even when he does score or whether, without him, someone else would score anyway as the team would play better.
I think he has tremendous ability. I don't buy this stuff where people say he has no first touch, I think he has a fantastic 1st touch but half the time is poncing about, diving, or trying to do something too clever, so loses the ball.
If he's been given the chance to play in the Prem, imo he should work his balls off to make the best of it. You don't cross to a bloke who is invisible & a wimp. If he got stuck in more, he would get better service. Do you think Shearer would stand about looking miserable if he wasn't getting the passes ? He'd go apeshit & demand the service. When it came, he'd fight like fuck to get on the end of it. If Dzeko does that, imo he will have no problem succeeding in the Prem. If he can't be arsed, he should go.
There was a home game recently where Silva on several occasions chose not to pass to him when he was by far the best positioned player to recieve the ball. For anyone else it could have been poor vision, but for Silva to intentionally choose not to pass to him is concerning
Im_Spartacus wrote:Dendza wrote:All fans have someone they don't like in their team, I think this is case with Dzeko. He hasn't been at his best lately and is struggling still with premier league. As for those who say that he doesn't run or try enough, they should know that thats the way he plays. He has played similarly in bundesliga and was the top scorer. why? Because he was the target man who was getting balls constantly. In city the ball goes through every player, even hart before it reaches one of the strikers. This is the problem, we complicate things for no reason, just give him some through balls/crosses and he will use them. Aguero was better than dzeko last night, and that is because the way city plays is good for him, and i really admire the player. But Dzeko is not being used at his best and that is what frustrates him on the pitch I believe. Clichy can't cross for shit, neither Richards can. Why do you think kolarov gets on to play on the left side? Too bad Mancini subbed him in70th minute expecting he will do something when there is 11 defenders of Everton. However to sum this up, dzeko isnt at his best and frustrates me also and many fans, but he also isn't used the way he should and if it continues like this i think its better for him to leave to SerieA or Spanish league.
Cheers
Agree with all this wholeheartedly. I am really disappointed in the way this is turning out for Dzeko. We have provided one decent cross in the last few weeks, and Dzeko did his job, got on the end of it and scored it.
Now, if only Mancini could imagine what we could achieve doing a bit more crossing.
I think the answer to our issues and Dzeko's issues is to go to a wing backs system where the wing backs are genuinely looking to bomb on and get the ball in the middle at every opportunity. That would suit Richards, would suit Kolarov and mean he doesn't have to be relied upon too much defensively, would shore up the defence with 3 at the back (personnel allowing), and would take the burden off Silva's shoulders. It would probably mean that Nasri would miss out, but I haven't seen much from him to suggest he deserves his place.
PALUS wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Dendza wrote:All fans have someone they don't like in their team, I think this is case with Dzeko. He hasn't been at his best lately and is struggling still with premier league. As for those who say that he doesn't run or try enough, they should know that thats the way he plays. He has played similarly in bundesliga and was the top scorer. why? Because he was the target man who was getting balls constantly. In city the ball goes through every player, even hart before it reaches one of the strikers. This is the problem, we complicate things for no reason, just give him some through balls/crosses and he will use them. Aguero was better than dzeko last night, and that is because the way city plays is good for him, and i really admire the player. But Dzeko is not being used at his best and that is what frustrates him on the pitch I believe. Clichy can't cross for shit, neither Richards can. Why do you think kolarov gets on to play on the left side? Too bad Mancini subbed him in70th minute expecting he will do something when there is 11 defenders of Everton. However to sum this up, dzeko isnt at his best and frustrates me also and many fans, but he also isn't used the way he should and if it continues like this i think its better for him to leave to SerieA or Spanish league.
Cheers
When I watched him in the Bundesliga almost every time I saw him, I thought he was shit, even when he scored, because he was too casual. I missed a lot of his best games I think, but I still saw him quite a lot & I thought he looked like someone who would have a problem in the Premier League. When I saw him in the Champion's Lg against the rags, I thought he was really really shit even thouigh he scored; he should have had 5. His problem isn't scoring though, it's whether he helps the team enough even when he does score or whether, without him, someone else would score anyway as the team would play better.
I think he has tremendous ability. I don't buy this stuff where people say he has no first touch, I think he has a fantastic 1st touch but half the time is poncing about, diving, or trying to do something too clever, so loses the ball.
If he's been given the chance to play in the Prem, imo he should work his balls off to make the best of it. You don't cross to a bloke who is invisible & a wimp. If he got stuck in more, he would get better service. Do you think Shearer would stand about looking miserable if he wasn't getting the passes ? He'd go apeshit & demand the service. When it came, he'd fight like fuck to get on the end of it. If Dzeko does that, imo he will have no problem succeeding in the Prem. If he can't be arsed, he should go.
mah man u shuld buy messi becose u are now fucken unbeliveble club in one season watch again game from last night how many time dzeko go back and clear the corner , nasri crossbar , dzeko pass , nasri shoot in the second half dzeko pass, and ok he had a poor game but u are jocking he was shit in germany best duo atackers in history of bundesliga he was shit against utd and he score wonderfol goal he was shite , o why why we didnt buy Carol abd Edin nicly go to the AC Milan where even when they loose they love there players , how u can ignore the fact that guy score evry other game and that Aguero has couple goals more even you all agree that this way how we play dosent agree with him how can u say foe wolfsburg best scorer ever that he was shite there , that is relly funy... but Magath know how to use donkey and foe me best place to go is italy or germany this is crazy to be player in Premiere ,he was shit in bundesliga hahahahaha fuck :)thats funy
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