Kolarov Is NOT A Left Back!

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Re: Kolarov Is NOT A Left Back!

Postby Fullartj » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:48 pm

It's definetly time to replace Kolarov as he's just not consistant enough.
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Re: Kolarov Is NOT A Left Back!

Postby cheadleblueincornwall » Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:34 pm

For where we are going and where we want to be, he unfortunately is not up to that standard. It is a position where we have not got a top player, unlike so many other positions, and this needs rectifying....Same with Clichey, good going forward but first job is to defend and he doesn't do that particularly well.....So Left back is istill a concern for me?
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Re: Kolarov Is NOT A Left Back!

Postby freshie » Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:40 pm

Fullartj wrote:It's definetly time to replace Kolarov as he's just not consistant enough.


The one thing you cannot accuse him of being is inconsistent. The problem is that he is consistently shit
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Re: Kolarov Is NOT A Left Back!

Postby Moonchesteri » Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:08 pm

He intercepted a pass and started the move which resulted in the peno and first goal and put in the great cross from which AJ/Baird scored the 2nd.
Just sayin
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Re: Kolarov Is NOT A Left Back!

Postby Florida Blue » Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:31 pm

Moonchesteri wrote:He intercepted a pass and started the move which resulted in the peno and first goal and put in the great cross from which AJ/Baird scored the 2nd.
Just sayin


Neither of which is a comment on his skill as a left back. He is a talented crosser for sure and even Dzeko and Johnson intercept passes.
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Re: Kolarov Is NOT A Left Back!

Postby Moonchesteri » Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:44 pm

Florida Blue wrote:
Moonchesteri wrote:He intercepted a pass and started the move which resulted in the peno and first goal and put in the great cross from which AJ/Baird scored the 2nd.
Just sayin


Neither of which is a comment on his skill as a left back. He is a talented crosser for sure and even Dzeko and Johnson intercept passes.


Just tried to support a MCFC player after he had a good match. but hey ho, everyone has their own way
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Re: Kolarov Is NOT A Left Back!

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:43 am

I'm with you Miikka. He was excellent yesterday. Not fan of him obviously but you have got to applaud anyone who pits good shift in.
Sometimes we're good and sometimes we're bad but when we're good, at least we're much better than we used to be and when we are bad we're just as bad as we always used to be, so that's got to be good hasn't it?


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Re: Kolarov Is NOT A Left Back!

Postby Mase » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:22 am

I think he gets sucked in to the middle too easily and leaves the opposition right winger literally standing there on his own. That said I thought he did well yesterday without being tested too much.

He does seem like he wants to fight with anyone though. I think he'd start a fight in an empty room to be honest.
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Re: Kolarov Is NOT A Left Back!

Postby Hazy2 » Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:43 am

Maverick player who needs telling........ At 2-0 he was down the middle supporting ? we have forwards/MF of world class level, Nasri tracked back was in LB position, he jogged back. We need him bombing on like a hole in the head, every scout from Villa to the rags will spot that,as Silva screamed WTF r you on, Lescott should be along with Joe Hart demanding he does his job 1st end of story stopping his mad moments now or we will be exposed big time as he joggs back.
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Re: Kolarov Is NOT A Left Back!

Postby CityFanFromRome » Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:20 am

Mase wrote: I think he'd start a fight in an empty room to be honest.

Made me laugh, good one there ;) As for Kolarov...I guess if he was played week in week out in left back with a good coach to teach him, in a season or two he could improve significantly as a left back. But we can't afford that, so he will be left as a part player or be sold this summer.

I think that many full backs will find it hard to adapt to the English game unless they came in very young and were disciplined in the academy/reserve team for a couple seasons. No wonder Clichy is much more reliable defensively, he spent his young years at Arsenal and someone you can't deny is that Wenger can develop youngsters into top players if they have some qualities of their own.
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Re: Kolarov Is NOT A Left Back!

Postby Florida Blue » Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:18 pm

Moonchesteri wrote:
Florida Blue wrote:
Moonchesteri wrote:He intercepted a pass and started the move which resulted in the peno and first goal and put in the great cross from which AJ/Baird scored the 2nd.
Just sayin


Neither of which is a comment on his skill as a left back. He is a talented crosser for sure and even Dzeko and Johnson intercept passes.


Just tried to support a MCFC player after he had a good match. but hey ho, everyone has their own way


Fair enough, and I do like the guy, I am just saying I am not sure defender is his best position. And he had a very good match.
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Re: Kolarov Is NOT A Left Back!

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:36 pm

I'm not being deliberately ridiculous but, bearing in mind there are so many reservations as to Kolarov's defensive capabilities, as well as doubts as to any midfield qualities he could draw upon, has anyone considered how he might perform as an out and out striker ??

As I said, I'm not being deliberately ridiculous, just trying to think outside the box and I feel there is a footballer in there somewhere waiting to get out, it's just a case of utilising him in his best position.

His ball control isn't too bad and his lack of pace might mean he could become someone who gave a little more thought to finding space and using his left boot productively.....sort of a modern day George Graham (if quoting a former Arsenic player isn't too obscene a thought).

Who knows, it might be the answer to our 4th striker problem but, then again, it could be a calamitous suggestion.
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Re: Kolarov Is NOT A Left Back!

Postby Alioune DVToure » Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:14 pm

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:I'm not being deliberately ridiculous but, bearing in mind there are so many reservations as to Kolarov's defensive capabilities, as well as doubts as to any midfield qualities he could draw upon, has anyone considered how he might perform as an out and out striker ??

As I said, I'm not being deliberately ridiculous, just trying to think outside the box and I feel there is a footballer in there somewhere waiting to get out, it's just a case of utilising him in his best position.

His ball control isn't too bad and his lack of pace might mean he could become someone who gave a little more thought to finding space and using his left boot productively.....sort of a modern day George Graham (if quoting a former Arsenic player isn't too obscene a thought).

Who knows, it might be the answer to our 4th striker problem but, then again, it could be a calamitous suggestion.


I think you might need to have some time off to have a think your future, mate. That is one of the most bizarre posts I've ever read.
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Re: Kolarov Is NOT A Left Back!

Postby 1950 » Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:53 pm

I have to admit that I came to the same conclusion, when I was thinking about a way to keep Kolarov as far away from our goal as possible, but still on the field. Stick him upfront!

He's a bit soft though (little balance) & a bit crap in tight areas, so no chance in hell it would work out against top opposition. Maybe in Serie B or such.
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Re: Kolarov Is NOT A Left Back!

Postby Dameerto » Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:46 pm

I mentioned in the match thread that it appeared as though Micah had been asked to help Savic out against Fulham - he wasn't getting forward anywhere near as much as he usually does this season - and that Kolarov was in the team to take over the 'extra attacker' role from Micah. He basically had a license to stay forward longer and to be out of position more often as a result (he wasn't selected for his defending we can all agree). He had a good game and I enjoyed watching him.
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Re: Kolarov Is NOT A Left Back!

Postby freshie » Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:52 pm

Mikhail Chigorin wrote:I'm not being deliberately ridiculous but, bearing in mind there are so many reservations as to Kolarov's defensive capabilities, as well as doubts as to any midfield qualities he could draw upon, has anyone considered how he might perform as an out and out striker ??

As I said, I'm not being deliberately ridiculous, just trying to think outside the box and I feel there is a footballer in there somewhere waiting to get out, it's just a case of utilising him in his best position.

His ball control isn't too bad and his lack of pace might mean he could become someone who gave a little more thought to finding space and using his left boot productively.....sort of a modern day George Graham (if quoting a former Arsenic player isn't too obscene a thought).

Who knows, it might be the answer to our 4th striker problem but, then again, it could be a calamitous suggestion.


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Re: Kolarov Is NOT A Left Back!

Postby Grob » Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:25 pm

Looks good when he doesnt have to defend.

Maybe use him in games like Saturdays and Clichy in the ones where the opposition are going to attack?

On the one time he was asked to defend, Duff orchestrated a simple 1 2 to take him out of the game.
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Re: Kolarov Is NOT A Left Back!

Postby Hazy2 » Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:22 pm

Home games only for me, and stern talking to before the game say 2.55. Better still put him on a rope half the pitch with some elastic, he strays he pays. Or a Tazar Gun.
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Re: Kolarov Is NOT A Left Back!

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:18 pm

Alioune DVToure wrote:
Mikhail Chigorin wrote:I'm not being deliberately ridiculous but, bearing in mind there are so many reservations as to Kolarov's defensive capabilities, as well as doubts as to any midfield qualities he could draw upon, has anyone considered how he might perform as an out and out striker ??

As I said, I'm not being deliberately ridiculous, just trying to think outside the box and I feel there is a footballer in there somewhere waiting to get out, it's just a case of utilising him in his best position.

His ball control isn't too bad and his lack of pace might mean he could become someone who gave a little more thought to finding space and using his left boot productively.....sort of a modern day George Graham (if quoting a former Arsenic player isn't too obscene a thought).

Who knows, it might be the answer to our 4th striker problem but, then again, it could be a calamitous suggestion.


I think you might need to have some time off to have a think your future, mate. That is one of the most bizarre posts I've ever read.


Thanks for being so diplomatic, old chum, about such an off-beat suggestion. I presume you already considered this possibility deeply and discarded it after much thought (or not).

It's just that we paid a lot of money for him and, before we ship him out (and presumably make a noticeable loss on any such transaction), I think we owe it to ourselves to try and find a way that he could be an asset to the squad and the team.

We don't need him as goalkeeping cover (he'd probably be no good with crosses), he's not a centre-half (although he might just make a semi-useful libero against poorer sides ??), he has positional and defensive frailities at full-back as well as being too slow, he's not a left-sided midfielder (mobility, stamina, tackling and positional-wise), he can't play the Big Nige role and, in any event, he'd give away too many free kicks in dangerously central positions, he's not tricky or fast enough to be a winger, so what does that all leave but to consider him in a more forward position, where his shooting might be an asset.

I still feel there's a footballer in there somewhere, just waiting to be unleashed although in years to come, it might be another outfit who get the benefits rather than us.

Anyway, what do I know .........
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Re: Kolarov Is NOT A Left Back!

Postby john68 » Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:31 pm

Mikhail,
How silly were you mate.....almost as silly as putting winger Glyn Pardoe at full back...or playing George Heslop as a twin centre half...or taking Summerbee off the wing and replacing him with Lee.

...and didn't Bert Trautmann start as a centre forward?

You are being silly.
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