Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories

[Rag_hater]

There is a report in the news somewhere which states that we have got Marwood to write to the powers that be about how the club is quite preturbed by the inconsistent decisions we have been subject to lately,by using that for judgement it appears that along with the noise the fans are making and other folk the hierarchy can still just swat us away as an irritation,and if it can be seen that patience until there is a change in the hierarchy is the only solution,I think until then we have to suck it as it were,and be patient until we get rid of the ones with pro scum bias.
"Oh Humm" to me would be a good front while the Shiekh works behind the scenes to resolve this issue.

Hallelujah, so it's not paranoia. If the club are of the same opinion of the fans then their views are justified.

So people, it is real and you can now take off those tin hats. You really do need to look over your shoulder.

To me it says that there are people at the club who are as para as some of you lot hence the threads about whether Bobby is cracking up or not.

Rag Hater,
As well as being a football club, City are a business. As well as competing on the field, we also compete of it. Our owners have invested many many millions in City and they will at some point want to see some return. The club are actively purSuing their business to massively increase our income and increase our profile throughout the World. Whether with fans or with new business partners.
IMAGE IS ALL IMPORTANT. Our club has made huge efforts to show City as a proffessional and efficient business that has a strong link with the community and is a club worthwhile supporting and doing business with.
The media are destroying this constantly. The force, venom and hatred of the attacks on City defy credibility. We are constantly mauled by negative reportage that seeks to undo all the good work we are doing.
Both to potential business partners, who have regard for their own public image and to the casual observer or potential supporter, we are seen publically as a "failed club, with little or no history or tradition, that has come into money and is using it to buy success, with little or no regard to the spirit or ethos of the game." On the field we are being mullered by poor decisions that make us appear to be a nasty cheating dirty team, who whinge and moan when things don't go our way.

IT HURTS US AS FANS, DAMAGES CITY AS A CLUB AND UNDOES MUCH OF THE GOOD EFFORTS OF OUR BUSINESS TEAM.

I think they are making our image worldwide very attractive its you people in UK that get upset about the crap the media spouts.Most of the world who can't even speak english dont give aa fuck about what is written in the sun.Who in Europe gives a fuck what crackhead says.Most of them dont understand.
The media are winding you up nobody else and your hatred of the old G clubs makes you buy into the fear they have been kidding people with for years.

[Beefymcfc]

There is a report in the news somewhere which states that we have got Marwood to write to the powers that be about how the club is quite preturbed by the inconsistent decisions we have been subject to lately,by using that for judgement it appears that along with the noise the fans are making and other folk the hierarchy can still just swat us away as an irritation,and if it can be seen that patience until there is a change in the hierarchy is the only solution,I think until then we have to suck it as it were,and be patient until we get rid of the ones with pro scum bias.
"Oh Humm" to me would be a good front while the Shiekh works behind the scenes to resolve this issue.

Hallelujah, so it's not paranoia. If the club are of the same opinion of the fans then their views are justified.

So people, it is real and you can now take off those tin hats. You really do need to look over your shoulder.

To me it says that there are people at the club who are as para as some of you lot hence the threads about whether Bobby is cracking up or not.

Rag, I understand you man. There's no need to gain attention from me.

[guv111]

But these recent posts are only really dealing with the media bias - when the same levels of ingrained bias manifests in football’s hierarchy and the officials then it is not something that you just need to be patient about because it is costing us big time now!!
Including possibly:

Taking the lead in Munich - which would have been quite important in the outcome of that group
FA cup place lost to the scum
Wembley trip lost to Liverpool
Commanding PL lead lost through numerous errors that have cost points

So are we just to be patient and see more of the same perhaps cost us the league title – because that is the likelihood if the same number of 'errors' occur in the remainder of the season – especially if coupled with the pro-scum bias!!

We might not be able to do fuck all about it but I for one do not feel like just sitting quietly going ‘Oh-Humm’.


I think that CITY should produce a summary video of all these incidents for presentation to the FA (shockingly leaked) – it will gain nothing but it might make a few of the officials squirm about their risk of being outed

I think this is a very good post worthy of its own thread, as it seems a bit out of place in this one.

"City are an impatient team easily demoralised", etc...?

Just a suggestion.

[mcfc1632]

There is a report in the news somewhere which states that we have got Marwood to write to the powers that be about how the club is quite preturbed by the inconsistent decisions we have been subject to lately,by using that for judgement it appears that along with the noise the fans are making and other folk the hierarchy can still just swat us away as an irritation,and if it can be seen that patience until there is a change in the hierarchy is the only solution,I think until then we have to suck it as it were,and be patient until we get rid of the ones with pro scum bias.
"Oh Humm" to me would be a good front while the Shiekh works behind the scenes to resolve this issue.

Hallelujah, so it's not paranoia. If the club are of the same opinion of the fans then their views are justified.

So people, it is real and you can now take off those tin hats. You really do need to look over your shoulder.

To me it says that there are people at the club who are as para as some of you lot hence the threads about whether Bobby is cracking up or not.

Rag Hater,
As well as being a football club, City are a business. As well as competing on the field, we also compete of it. Our owners have invested many many millions in City and they will at some point want to see some return. The club are actively purSuing their business to massively increase our income and increase our profile throughout the World. Whether with fans or with new business partners.
IMAGE IS ALL IMPORTANT. Our club has made huge efforts to show City as a proffessional and efficient business that has a strong link with the community and is a club worthwhile supporting and doing business with.
The media are destroying this constantly. The force, venom and hatred of the attacks on City defy credibility. We are constantly mauled by negative reportage that seeks to undo all the good work we are doing.
Both to potential business partners, who have regard for their own public image and to the casual observer or potential supporter, we are seen publically as a "failed club, with little or no history or tradition, that has come into money and is using it to buy success, with little or no regard to the spirit or ethos of the game." On the field we are being mullered by poor decisions that make us appear to be a nasty cheating dirty team, who whinge and moan when things don't go our way.

IT HURTS US AS FANS, DAMAGES CITY AS A CLUB AND UNDOES MUCH OF THE GOOD EFFORTS OF OUR BUSINESS TEAM.

I think they are making our image worldwide very attractive its you people in UK that get upset about the crap the media spouts.Most of the world who can't even speak english dont give aa fuck about what is written in the sun.Who in Europe gives a fuck what crackhead says.Most of them dont understand.
The media are winding you up nobody else and your hatred of the old G clubs makes you buy into the fear they have been kidding people with for years.

RH - the old saying goes "there are none so blind as those that will not see" - it is all about opinions on here and you are fully entitled to yours - although you do seem to be on a one man crusade to deny others having the opinion that there is undue bias.

I highlight that bit above only because it is the area of your points that (IMO) makes sense - the media bias.

But, as I posted above, this is only 1 aspect of the bias (and for me the less dammaging - and easiest to change - just win things)

It is in the areas of the bias shown in offialdom that your arguments seem to lacking much substance - and those areas are far more dammaging and stop our progress

[Rag_hater]

There is a report in the news somewhere which states that we have got Marwood to write to the powers that be about how the club is quite preturbed by the inconsistent decisions we have been subject to lately,by using that for judgement it appears that along with the noise the fans are making and other folk the hierarchy can still just swat us away as an irritation,and if it can be seen that patience until there is a change in the hierarchy is the only solution,I think until then we have to suck it as it were,and be patient until we get rid of the ones with pro scum bias.
"Oh Humm" to me would be a good front while the Shiekh works behind the scenes to resolve this issue.

Hallelujah, so it's not paranoia. If the club are of the same opinion of the fans then their views are justified.

So people, it is real and you can now take off those tin hats. You really do need to look over your shoulder.

To me it says that there are people at the club who are as para as some of you lot hence the threads about whether Bobby is cracking up or not.

Rag Hater,
As well as being a football club, City are a business. As well as competing on the field, we also compete of it. Our owners have invested many many millions in City and they will at some point want to see some return. The club are actively purSuing their business to massively increase our income and increase our profile throughout the World. Whether with fans or with new business partners.
IMAGE IS ALL IMPORTANT. Our club has made huge efforts to show City as a proffessional and efficient business that has a strong link with the community and is a club worthwhile supporting and doing business with.
The media are destroying this constantly. The force, venom and hatred of the attacks on City defy credibility. We are constantly mauled by negative reportage that seeks to undo all the good work we are doing.
Both to potential business partners, who have regard for their own public image and to the casual observer or potential supporter, we are seen publically as a "failed club, with little or no history or tradition, that has come into money and is using it to buy success, with little or no regard to the spirit or ethos of the game." On the field we are being mullered by poor decisions that make us appear to be a nasty cheating dirty team, who whinge and moan when things don't go our way.

IT HURTS US AS FANS, DAMAGES CITY AS A CLUB AND UNDOES MUCH OF THE GOOD EFFORTS OF OUR BUSINESS TEAM.

I think they are making our image worldwide very attractive its you people in UK that get upset about the crap the media spouts.Most of the world who can't even speak english dont give aa fuck about what is written in the sun.Who in Europe gives a fuck what crackhead says.Most of them dont understand.
The media are winding you up nobody else and your hatred of the old G clubs makes you buy into the fear they have been kidding people with for years.

RH - the old saying goes "there are none so blind as those that will not see" - it is all about opinions on here and you are fully entitled to yours - although you do seem to be on a one man crusade to deny others having the opinion that there is undue bias.

I highlight that bit above only because it is the area of your points that (IMO) makes sense - the media bias.

But, as I posted above, this is only 1 aspect of the bias (and for me the less dammaging - and easiest to change - just win things)

It is in the areas of the bias shown in offialdom that your arguments seem to lacking much substance - and those areas are far more dammaging and stop our progress

One man crusade is because most of what needs to be covered by the skeptics I say.I am the voice of reason:)
The guy who started this thread and myself are of similar views so the one man bit I think has no substance.
Any damage you percive us to be suffering is making a mountain out of a molehill IMO.
The bias you indicate that has changed the course of matches, IMO is, I think something that we have to accept as one of the things that we have to compete against until we become an established club.
We are making progress and whatever you are thinking is holding us back I think we are well on target.

[kinkylola]

dont know if anyone else has noticed, and apologies if it's somewhere earlier in this thread or elsewhere, but since the everton game, if you look on BBC Football website, under the 'league by league' section, it still has Everton 1 - 0 City. That's going on 2 weeks now ... surely there have been results since then.

might see it as a small thing, but it's definitely intentional.

[zuricity]

dont know if anyone else has noticed, and apologies if it's somewhere earlier in this thread or elsewhere, but since the everton game, if you look on BBC Football website, under the 'league by league' section, it still has Everton 1 - 0 City. That's going on 2 weeks now ... surely there have been results since then.

might see it as a small thing, but it's definitely intentional.

You are correct. This is certainly intentional.....

It's also noticable how often Beckscum gets a reference on the Beeb.

They are in perfect harmony, Salford quays is just around the corner for F*rgie.

[john68]

Rag Hater,
Did you ever stop to think that in almost every contentious issue, your viewpoint is usually the opposite of just about everybody else?
Why do think all the World is marching one way and you, usually in isolation, are usually marching in the opposite direction?
If I was driving mybab down a motorway and noted that all the other cars were driving towardsme on thesame carriageway, I would stop, think and probably adjust my actions.

You think we are on target, which particular target? Diabolical refereeing decisions have been a major factor in us being knocked out of the Carling Cup and the FA Cup. They are 2 targets that we are no longer on target with.
Similar has happened in the League and though we remaintop at the moment, we are only 2 points clear. Without some ridiculous refereeing decisions, that gap could be much larger. Yet another target that we are not quite on target for.

And do you actually believe that the media bias against City has made us look more attractive? Can you explain that?
It certainly hasn't worked with herr Rumminigge, who is a most powerful football politico, chairman of the ECA and long term spokesman for the G14, with aims to take over UeFA.

Maybe the ivory tower you abide in away from these shores has sheltered you from the full implications of the reality.

And do you really believe that the guy who is getting a kicking from a gang of muggers, should just lie down and let them kick the life out if him?
If you were attention seeking again, that should sate your needs.

[feedthegreek]

Rag Hater,
Did you ever stop to think that in almost every contentious issue, your viewpoint is usually the opposite of just about everybody else?
Why do think all the World is marching one way and you, usually in isolation, are usually marching in the opposite direction?
If I was driving mybab down a motorway and noted that all the other cars were driving towardsme on thesame carriageway, I would stop, think and probably adjust my actions.

You think we are on target, which particular target? Diabolical refereeing decisions have been a major factor in us being knocked out of the Carling Cup and the FA Cup. They are 2 targets that we are no longer on target with.
Similar has happened in the League and though we remaintop at the moment, we are only 2 points clear. Without some ridiculous refereeing decisions, that gap could be much larger. Yet another target that we are not quite on target for.

And do you actually believe that the media bias against City has made us look more attractive? Can you explain that?
It certainly hasn't worked with herr Rumminigge, who is a most powerful football politico, chairman of the ECA and long term spokesman for the G14, with aims to take over UeFA.

Maybe the ivory tower you abide in away from these shores has sheltered you from the full implications of the reality.

And do you really believe that the guy who is getting a kicking from a gang of muggers, should just lie down and let them kick the life out if him?
If you were attention seeking again, that should sate your needs.

agree with all of that john i was thinking back to when keegan had barcodes well clear and scum clawed the pts back, ferguson said i hope leeds give newcastle a good game when they meet, implying that they might not, keegan went ballistic and the video of him as been shown again and again to ridicule him, also benitez rafas rant both times these interviews were used to undermine both managers, a common phrase was used liverpool havent won since rafas rant. but that got me wondering did they face a lot of controversial decisions in those seasons. and when chelsea won the league it was under jose m. who the press loved so no ridiculing him. capello undermined by media and the fa. redknapp always ready for an interview with any body talkshite 5 live eg. jose the same, are we playing the game right, no city tv only on the website bobby never on talkshite or 5live at the drop of an hat, yet all the shit managers martinez bruce etc etc never get slated, avb always slated wenger the same, dont blame the club fot taking the stance they do, but does,nt seem to be working, in as much as never get any really good press.

[john68]

I totally agree with that and have long considered that to be a major weak link in our marketing of the club. Not only TV but also radio.
All the major clubs and even some not so big have a public personality or face to big them up or fight their corner, we have none. Very occasionally we see an ex City face paraded but usually like Keegan, they have links with other clubs too.

It is an area the club needs to address. I think Bob has a great sense of humour but maybe with the language barrier his personality doesn't seem to come across.

[Rag_hater]

Rag Hater,
Did you ever stop to think that in almost every contentious issue, your viewpoint is usually the opposite of just about everybody else?
Why do think all the World is marching one way and you, usually in isolation, are usually marching in the opposite direction?
If I was driving mybab down a motorway and noted that all the other cars were driving towardsme on thesame carriageway, I would stop, think and probably adjust my actions.

You think we are on target, which particular target? Diabolical refereeing decisions have been a major factor in us being knocked out of the Carling Cup and the FA Cup. They are 2 targets that we are no longer on target with.
Similar has happened in the League and though we remaintop at the moment, we are only 2 points clear. Without some ridiculous refereeing decisions, that gap could be much larger. Yet another target that we are not quite on target for.

And do you actually believe that the media bias against City has made us look more attractive? Can you explain that?
It certainly hasn't worked with herr Rumminigge, who is a most powerful football politico, chairman of the ECA and long term spokesman for the G14, with aims to take over UeFA.

Maybe the ivory tower you abide in away from these shores has sheltered you from the full implications of the reality.

And do you really believe that the guy who is getting a kicking from a gang of muggers, should just lie down and let them kick the life out if him?
If you were attention seeking again, that should sate your needs.

The person who started this thread and a few others are marching in the same direction as me so your conclusion is a bit wrong there.
Your fear and hatred of Rummminigge is something you should grow out of believe me it will help make you less para.
Reality is there is a big world outside the UK where what the british media say has no implications.
Being top of the leagie is not on target fuck me are you sure.

[Goataldo]

Rag Hater,
Did you ever stop to think that in almost every contentious issue, your viewpoint is usually the opposite of just about everybody else?
Why do think all the World is marching one way and you, usually in isolation, are usually marching in the opposite direction?
If I was driving mybab down a motorway and noted that all the other cars were driving towardsme on thesame carriageway, I would stop, think and probably adjust my actions.

You think we are on target, which particular target? Diabolical refereeing decisions have been a major factor in us being knocked out of the Carling Cup and the FA Cup. They are 2 targets that we are no longer on target with.
Similar has happened in the League and though we remaintop at the moment, we are only 2 points clear. Without some ridiculous refereeing decisions, that gap could be much larger. Yet another target that we are not quite on target for.

And do you actually believe that the media bias against City has made us look more attractive? Can you explain that?
It certainly hasn't worked with herr Rumminigge, who is a most powerful football politico, chairman of the ECA and long term spokesman for the G14, with aims to take over UeFA.

Maybe the ivory tower you abide in away from these shores has sheltered you from the full implications of the reality.

And do you really believe that the guy who is getting a kicking from a gang of muggers, should just lie down and let them kick the life out if him?
If you were attention seeking again, that should sate your needs.

The person who started this thread and a few others are marching in the same direction as me so your conclusion is a bit wrong there.
Your fear and hatred of Rummminigge is something you should grow out of believe me it will help make you less para.
Reality is there is a big world outside the UK where what the british media say has no implications.
Being top of the leagie is not on target fuck me are you sure.

'something you should grow out of'

hahaha, you really are something. if you spoke to people you meet 'in real life' the way you do on here, you'd be physically assaulted on a regular basis. But then, people deserve to be patronised by you, according to you, don't they?

Tell us more about the big wide world, oh wise one.

[john68]

Rag Hater,
You are slipping back into your old ways of reading the words but not digesting their meaning again.

Sat at the top of the League by TWO POINTS is NOT ON TARGET, when without the diabolical refereeing decisions that we have suffered and the longer term implications they have caused in other games, causing us lost points, is certainly not where we could and should be. We should be sat several more points clear at the top.
...and was it our tsargetto be knocked out of both domestic cups?
NOT ON TARGET>>>>NO ARE WE FUCK

I have no hatred whatsoever of Rumminigge, I have never met the feller and don't know him. He may be a lovely chap. Neither do I fear him, he has never threatened me in any way. What I am is awarew of him. I am aware of the power he wields and aslo of his stated views. Thhose views and his power, could in the longer term do our club great damage. He has already widely and publically slated City only a few months ago and made his position quite clear.
Likewise the G14...maybe it is because I get out in the World, that I am also aware of them and what they are up to.

I will ask you yet again...to read the words and please try and understand them. If you repsond, please don't attribute any hidden meanings, concocted by yourself to them. You only serve to make yourself look an idiot...and you wouldn't want to be that, would you?

[Rag_hater]

Rag Hater,
Did you ever stop to think that in almost every contentious issue, your viewpoint is usually the opposite of just about everybody else?
Why do think all the World is marching one way and you, usually in isolation, are usually marching in the opposite direction?
If I was driving mybab down a motorway and noted that all the other cars were driving towardsme on thesame carriageway, I would stop, think and probably adjust my actions.

You think we are on target, which particular target? Diabolical refereeing decisions have been a major factor in us being knocked out of the Carling Cup and the FA Cup. They are 2 targets that we are no longer on target with.
Similar has happened in the League and though we remaintop at the moment, we are only 2 points clear. Without some ridiculous refereeing decisions, that gap could be much larger. Yet another target that we are not quite on target for.

And do you actually believe that the media bias against City has made us look more attractive? Can you explain that?
It certainly hasn't worked with herr Rumminigge, who is a most powerful football politico, chairman of the ECA and long term spokesman for the G14, with aims to take over UeFA.

Maybe the ivory tower you abide in away from these shores has sheltered you from the full implications of the reality.

And do you really believe that the guy who is getting a kicking from a gang of muggers, should just lie down and let them kick the life out if him?
If you were attention seeking again, that should sate your needs.

The person who started this thread and a few others are marching in the same direction as me so your conclusion is a bit wrong there.
Your fear and hatred of Rummminigge is something you should grow out of believe me it will help make you less para.
Reality is there is a big world outside the UK where what the british media say has no implications.
Being top of the leagie is not on target fuck me are you sure.

'something you should grow out of'

hahaha, you really are something. if you spoke to people you meet 'in real life' the way you do on here, you'd be physically assaulted on a regular basis. But then, people deserve to be patronised by you, according to you, don't they?

Tell us more about the big wide world, oh wise one.

I will be at the Blackburn game on Colin Bell level 1 come and assault me if you think you can.

Rag Hater,
You are slipping back into your old ways of reading the words but not digesting their meaning again.

Sat at the top of the League by TWO POINTS is NOT ON TARGET, when without the diabolical refereeing decisions that we have suffered and the longer term implications they have caused in other games, causing us lost points, is certainly not where we could and should be. We should be sat several more points clear at the top.
...and was it our tsargetto be knocked out of both domestic cups?
NOT ON TARGET>>>>NO ARE WE FUCK

I have no hatred whatsoever of Rumminigge, I have never met the feller and don't know him. He may be a lovely chap. Neither do I fear him, he has never threatened me in any way. What I am is awarew of him. I am aware of the power he wields and aslo of his stated views. Thhose views and his power, could in the longer term do our club great damage. He has already widely and publically slated City only a few months ago and made his position quite clear.
Likewise the G14...maybe it is because I get out in the World, that I am also aware of them and what they are up to.

I will ask you yet again...to read the words and please try and understand them. If you repsond, please don't attribute any hidden meanings, concocted by yourself to them. You only serve to make yourself look an idiot...and you wouldn't want to be that, would you?

Give up old man.
The same offer for you.

[Beefymcfc]

Bloody hell, Raggers is getting paranoid that everyone wants to fight him!

[ashton287]

I will be at the Blackburn game on Colin Bell level 1 come and assault me if you think you can.

Give up old man.
The same offer for you.

Haha offering John out should be a bannable offence. John is a nice fella so leave it out you bellend.

[Beefymcfc]

I will be at the Blackburn game on Colin Bell level 1 come and assault me if you think you can.

Give up old man.
The same offer for you.

Haha offering John out should be a bannable offence. John is a nice fella so leave it out you bellend.

I think John would have him anyway.

[Rag_hater]

Bloody hell, Raggers is getting paranoid that everyone wants to fight him!

If you say so.
The thing is I do not have to have the same opinions as you.Believe it or not its not the law.
You lot are crying because we have had some shit refs well I have been around long enough to have seen it before and most of you have so the fact your making such a deal out of it is just sour grapes.
Tiatto against Boro as a shit one a few years ago springs to mind,sure many remember.Shit was going on then, and still is, everbody knows it.
All this bollox that its aimed at us is tedious.
No other team has ever had a bad or good reffing decision.
Our global image is being hurt by what suppository and crackhead say.Really.I was wondering why everything on sat afternoon here was closed, they have all stopped to listen to them.Fuckin hardly anyone watches thhem in uk but europe comes to a standstill.

[Beefymcfc]

Bloody hell, Raggers is getting paranoid that everyone wants to fight him!

If you say so.
The thing is I do not have to have the same opinions as you.Believe it or not its not the law.
You lot are crying because we have had some shit refs well I have been around long enough to have seen it before and most of you have so the fact your making such a deal out of it is just sour grapes.
Tiatto against Boro as a shit one a few years ago springs to mind,sure many remember.Shit was going on then, and still is, everbody knows it.
All this bollox that its aimed at us is tedious.
No other team has ever had a bad or good reffing decision.
Our global image is being hurt by what suppository and crackhead say.Really.I was wondering why everything on sat afternoon here was closed, they have all stopped to listen to them.Fuckin hardly anyone watches thhem in uk but europe comes to a standstill.

Isn't that the point of the forum, to aire your opinions? I've not abused you in any way, in fact, I go out of my way not to. There's nobody crying on here because I know that the majority of those who have commented on this thread are die-hard fans who have the background to understand what is right and wrong in football.

For me, and this is a genuine opinion, is that there has been wide spread bias and favouritism to certain clubs. This isn't just since we've had the money, not just because we are challenging for titles, but because we are challenging the basic structure that has been in place since the Premier Leagues inception. In my view it's not about us, it's about certain teams who by the grace of being one of Sky's favourites get the majority of calls. It's an understandable scenario to be fair and when you consider the sums put across, it's not hard to work out that certain types may want to set an agenda.

Prior to us having a chance of getting anywhere near, I was always under the opinion that whoever attempted to break the CL places would end up with a negative bank balance for having the audacity to try. For many years this has been the case with the likes of Villa, Newcastle, Spurs and Everton just ending up outside the places (didn't Everton actually make it), no matter how hard they try. Just to back that up, how's O'Niell doing at Sunderland lately?

No mate, I'm not crying as I've always held this view, ever since I learnt that BSKYB wanted a majority share in your namesakes and an approximate 10% share in us. Why would you do that unless you wanted 2 puppets to play off at each other?

And you are right, this is tedious because a lot of fans, not just City, see that there isn't a straight race for the title and if the likes of Marwood are being asked to intervene against the bias then you know it's nowt to do with people just being paranoid (that word you cannot say).

I seem to remember you mentioning something about your favoured team, Real, a while back and you seemed too intimate that Barca got all the calls and that's why I can't believe you are being so contrare on here, unless you need some MCF.netters time.

[Duckman]

everton almost made it. went out in qualifier and ruined entire season cos theyre a bunch of lumberjacks.