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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby Socrates » Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:24 pm

At least he's changed his name from LLLLLLLLLLLLes to DDDDDDDDDDDDDDes ;o)
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby The Man In Blue » Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:26 pm

1 loss in 12, hughes out.
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby Socrates » Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:29 pm

The Man In Blue wrote:1 loss in 12, hughes out.


If you are fighting relegation then avoiding losses is a great aim. If you want Champions League then you need to count WINS.
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby Wonderwall » Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:29 pm

We were poor today, it wasnt down to hughes, it was down to the players. They couldnt even do the simple things right. The passing was awful and the decision making was terrible. Shay was top class as usual, however, so many players were caught out of position today. Which, in some part, gives a good deal of credit to the opposition. Birmingham came racing out of the blocks and really got the bit between their teeth, they closed down everything and gave us no space. They made it very difficult for us, however, I would expect our quality to show through and it didnt.

Hughes made changes early and I was happy with that. We are TOP 4 with a game in hand you bunch of gloom merchants. Some of the people on this bored sicken me with their negativity. People have been going on about us leaking goals, yet only Villa and Chelsea have a better defensive record! City are the only team to have lost only 1 game this season and that was against the champions and we were unlucky FFS. Take a long hard look at yourselves and have a word will you.
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:29 pm

The Man In Blue wrote:1 loss in 12, hughes out.


You are living in 2 points for win days. As is Hughes.
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby david yearsley » Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:29 pm

Maybe some of our players aren´t quite as good as we think they are - no I´m not naming any names as we´ve prolly all got our own ideas
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:30 pm

david yearsley wrote:Maybe some of our players aren´t quite as good as we think they are - no I´m not naming any names as we´ve prolly all got our own ideas


Who brought them in?
Sometimes we're good and sometimes we're bad but when we're good, at least we're much better than we used to be and when we are bad we're just as bad as we always used to be, so that's got to be good hasn't it?


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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby blues-clues » Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:31 pm

Hmmm.

Anyone who really thought we were going to win the league this season now realises they might have to wait a year or two longer.

We are 4th with a game in hand. We are still looking up at where we can get to and not looking down at who can overtake us.

We have lost only one game all season.

We have an excellent squad but do not have an established first team. Partnerships within the team are taking longer to yield than the more optimistic of us would have liked and perhaps too many players consider themselves to be on the fringe and are trying to do more complicated things than they are really capable of just to create the right impression.

Liverpool would swap positions with us in a heartbeat.
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby Dameerto » Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:31 pm

Barry played his worst game in City colours. That didn't help. They were weak all over though. It's our lack of accuracy that's really worrying me the most.
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby mr_nool » Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:32 pm

Wonderwall wrote:We were poor today, it wasnt down to hughes, it was down to the players. They couldnt even do the simple things right. The passing was awful and the decision making was terrible. Shay was top class as usual, however, so many players were caught out of position today. Which, in some part, gives a good deal of credit to the opposition. Birmingham came racing out of the blocks and really got the bit between their teeth, they closed down everything and gave us no space. They made it very difficult for us, however, I would expect our quality to show through and it didnt.

Hughes made changes early and I was happy with that. We are TOP 4 with a game in hand you bunch of gloom merchants. Some of the people on this bored sicken me with their negativity. People have been going on about us leaking goals, yet only Villa and Chelsea have a better defensive record! City are the only team to have lost only 1 game this season and that was against the champions and we were unlucky FFS. Take a long hard look at yourselves and have a word will you.


Will do. I'm still disapointed with our perforances of late, but of course wel pleased with out league position.
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby feedthegreek » Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:24 pm

Wonderwall wrote:We were poor today, it wasnt down to hughes, it was down to the players. They couldnt even do the simple things right. The passing was awful and the decision making was terrible. Shay was top class as usual, however, so many players were caught out of position today. Which, in some part, gives a good deal of credit to the opposition. Birmingham came racing out of the blocks and really got the bit between their teeth, they closed down everything and gave us no space. They made it very difficult for us, however, I would expect our quality to show through and it didnt.

Hughes made changes early and I was happy with that. We are TOP 4 with a game in hand you bunch of gloom merchants. Some of the people on this bored sicken me with their negativity. People have been going on about us leaking goals, yet only Villa and Chelsea have a better defensive record! City are the only team to have lost only 1 game this season and that was against the champions and we were unlucky FFS. Take a long hard look at yourselves and have a word will you.
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby david yearsley » Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:29 pm

feedthegreek wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:We were poor today, it wasnt down to hughes, it was down to the players. They couldnt even do the simple things right. The passing was awful and the decision making was terrible. Shay was top class as usual, however, so many players were caught out of position today. Which, in some part, gives a good deal of credit to the opposition. Birmingham came racing out of the blocks and really got the bit between their teeth, they closed down everything and gave us no space. They made it very difficult for us, however, I would expect our quality to show through and it didnt.

Hughes made changes early and I was happy with that. We are TOP 4 with a game in hand you bunch of gloom merchants. Some of the people on this bored sicken me with their negativity. People have been going on about us leaking goals, yet only Villa and Chelsea have a better defensive record! City are the only team to have lost only 1 game this season and that was against the champions and we were unlucky FFS. Take a long hard look at yourselves and have a word will you.
spot on
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Can´t really add much to that just that we need to spank Burnley and Hull at home (especially Hull as I´m over for that one!)
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby Original Dub » Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:47 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Dameerto wrote:a 38 game season and you want him out after a run of four, give me a fekking break.


Fair enough. Considering he has been in charge for three months now, it's too early to call for his head. Give him time and let him bring his own players in. If he had had any money to spend that might be fair but look at what he has had to work with.




You wish he was gone even though we're fourth with a game in hand?

Haha, fucking brilliant!

And all this shit floating about the board that "we're in fourth by default" and "its only because other teams are even crapper than us".

So these teams are likely to pull out of their bad run.... but eh.... we're not?

Ok so, well I'll take fourth by default at the end of the season... even if it is because the sixteen teams underneath us were crapper.

total horseshite on this site sometimes. By all means bemoan a defeat, but the rest is so boring and predictable it makes for fucking painful reading.

I'm sure Robinho_Is_God will show up soon....

Then the gang will back together.
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby edge275 » Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:49 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Dameerto wrote:a 38 game season and you want him out after a run of four, give me a fekking break.


Fair enough. Considering he has been in charge for three months now, it's too early to call for his head. Give him time and let him bring his own players in. If he had had any money to spend that might be fair but look at what he has had to work with.




You wish he was gone even though we're fourth with a game in hand?

Haha, fucking brilliant!

And all this shit floating about the board that "we're in fourth by default" and "its only because other teams are even crapper than us".

So these teams are likely to pull out of their bad run.... but eh.... we're not?

Ok so, well I'll take fourth by default at the end of the season... even if it is because the sixteen teams underneath us were crapper.

total horseshite on this site sometimes. By all means bemoan a defeat, but the rest is so boring and predictable it makes for fucking painful reading.

I'm sure Robinho_Is_God will show up soon....

Then the gang will back together.


I blame Hughes for a few of his selection of players and the formation.
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby Robinho_Is_GOD » Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:59 pm

edge275 wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Dameerto wrote:a 38 game season and you want him out after a run of four, give me a fekking break.


Fair enough. Considering he has been in charge for three months now, it's too early to call for his head. Give him time and let him bring his own players in. If he had had any money to spend that might be fair but look at what he has had to work with.




You wish he was gone even though we're fourth with a game in hand?

Haha, fucking brilliant!

And all this shit floating about the board that "we're in fourth by default" and "its only because other teams are even crapper than us".

So these teams are likely to pull out of their bad run.... but eh.... we're not?

Ok so, well I'll take fourth by default at the end of the season... even if it is because the sixteen teams underneath us were crapper.

total horseshite on this site sometimes. By all means bemoan a defeat, but the rest is so boring and predictable it makes for fucking painful reading.

I'm sure Robinho_Is_God will show up soon....

Then the gang will back together.


I blame Hughes for a few of his selection of players and the formation.


Well not to dissapoint DUD, but I am back......and guess what??, I do want him gone, have done since last July when he was appointed....no pedigree then and not much now either.

He goes and selects last seasons player of the year who played the first 5 games when we won 4 of them, on the bench for last 5 games and 1 win from them!!, Petrov scored 3 goals in 4 games, created a few others and caused problems, yet he is still on the bench because Crocked Snapped Criaciates is back and Hughes needs his bumboy to justify a price tag that was £17m too much, but like you said, that is not his fault obviously....he only selects the team, tactics (apparently) and sends them out to play.

With the players we have available we should not be drawing with the likes of Birmingham, Wigan or even Fulham after going 2-0 up at home with 30 mins left and being in total control of the game, the opposing manager changed the tactics of his team and Hughes didn't have a clue what to do to conquor it and nulify their threat again...instead the game got away from him and us again, as happend far too much last season.

With a manager like Ferguson, Wenger or Mourinho in charge of this squad of players we would be in contention of a title charge and maybe even win the thing, with Hughes we don't have a hope of that......as I said, no pedigree, no idea and should be no job.
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:02 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Dameerto wrote:a 38 game season and you want him out after a run of four, give me a fekking break.


Fair enough. Considering he has been in charge for three months now, it's too early to call for his head. Give him time and let him bring his own players in. If he had had any money to spend that might be fair but look at what he has had to work with.




You wish he was gone even though we're fourth with a game in hand?

Haha, fucking brilliant!

And all this shit floating about the board that "we're in fourth by default" and "its only because other teams are even crapper than us".

So these teams are likely to pull out of their bad run.... but eh.... we're not?

Ok so, well I'll take fourth by default at the end of the season... even if it is because the sixteen teams underneath us were crapper.

total horseshite on this site sometimes. By all means bemoan a defeat, but the rest is so boring and predictable it makes for fucking painful reading.

I'm sure Robinho_Is_God will show up soon....

Then the gang will back together.


Have I said that I "want him gone"? For better or for worse we are stuck with him throughout this season. He doesn't seem to be improving as manager though so we'll see what the future holds for him.
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby Original Dub » Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:04 pm

edge275 wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Dameerto wrote:a 38 game season and you want him out after a run of four, give me a fekking break.


Fair enough. Considering he has been in charge for three months now, it's too early to call for his head. Give him time and let him bring his own players in. If he had had any money to spend that might be fair but look at what he has had to work with.




You wish he was gone even though we're fourth with a game in hand?

Haha, fucking brilliant!

And all this shit floating about the board that "we're in fourth by default" and "its only because other teams are even crapper than us".

So these teams are likely to pull out of their bad run.... but eh.... we're not?

Ok so, well I'll take fourth by default at the end of the season... even if it is because the sixteen teams underneath us were crapper.

total horseshite on this site sometimes. By all means bemoan a defeat, but the rest is so boring and predictable it makes for fucking painful reading.

I'm sure Robinho_Is_God will show up soon....

Then the gang will back together.


I blame Hughes for a few of his selection of players and the formation.


Me too. I wouldn't have started Santa. I would have started Ireland and Petrov. Just for the record, I disagreed with Taggart's team selection and formation against Sunderland. And I disagreed with Wenger's tactics when two up against West Ham. The big problem is that when our manager gets it wrong he is dragging the club backwards. Some folk will open the debate on how we are progressing under hughes when we lose or play poorly, yet won't when we win. Why can't these folk just talk about the match and the performance of hughes on the day. Then everything would be a lot more reasonable and the debates a lot more realistic. Some of the tripe on here today is absolutely ridiculous.

But I take it one game at a time and we're fourth with a game in hand.

Liverpool would love to be in our position.
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby Chopper » Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:07 pm

Ill make my decision at the end of December.
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby The Man In Blue » Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:08 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:He doesn't seem to be improving as manager though so we'll see what the future holds for him.


this

Season: 08/09--09/10--Diff
Played: ---9--------9-----(+0)
Won: -----3--------5-----(+2)
Drawn: ---1--------3-----(+2)
Lost: -----5--------1-----(-4)
For: -----14-------18----(+4)
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Pts: -----10-------18----(+8)


seems to disagree with you.
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Re: 4 Points in a possible 12

Postby blackburnblue » Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:17 pm

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
The Man In Blue wrote:1 loss in 12, hughes out.


You are living in 2 points for win days. As is Hughes.

just answer this simple question; would you have taken this points total and league position after 10 matches at the start of the season?
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