Are There Any Circumstances?

[aaron bond]

We've not really had many losing situations to come back from either. We've lost a few games late on, and a few to better opposition (Napoli, bayern)

Exactly this. We take the lead in almost every game. I'd much rather that than go a goal or two behind and have to fight back all of the time.

But this doesn't necessarily means we won the game. This season was little better, but still we managed to have even two goals up front and couldn't keep the score.

I have absolutely no idea what that means.

But now you're on about the one game where we threw away a 2 goal lead? There really is no pleasing some people.

How is this season only a little better? We're the top scorers, best defenders, have most wins, are top of the league and have been the most in-form team in the league all season. When did we achieve close to all of that last season?

[Yffi_88]

But this doesn't necessarily means we won the game. This season was little better, but still we managed to have even two goals up front and couldn't keep the score.

Eeeeez normal.

We will have our off days, but we will also beat rags 6-1. Every team has a day when they don't do well/lose a lead/get beat, but to put the blame on the manager's lack of motivation power after all of the other positive results throughout the season seems a bit unfounded.

[PeterParker]

We've not really had many losing situations to come back from either. We've lost a few games late on, and a few to better opposition (Napoli, bayern)

Exactly this. We take the lead in almost every game. I'd much rather that than go a goal or two behind and have to fight back all of the time.

But this doesn't necessarily means we won the game. This season was little better, but still we managed to have even two goals up front and couldn't keep the score.

I have absolutely no idea what that means.

But now you're on about the one game where we threw away a 2 goal lead? There really is no pleasing some people.

How is this season only a little better? We're the top scorers, best defenders, have most wins, are top of the league and have been the most in-form team in the league all season. When did we achieve close to all of that last season?

A little better on keeping the score. Our away form is a little better that the one in the past year. Everyone knows we are the best team at home, no doubt and i am glad that we aren't satisfied if we don't win with a minimum of three goals ahead, but on the other hand we still managed to lose the Community Shield after having two up, drew with Fulham, didn't manage to keep the score in the Carling Cup semi and so on. There is no doubt that Bob had done a great job taking us this far, but still he have the same problems that we had in the past. We can't keep the score in some important occasions because we fail to concentrate and that we managed to comeback from behind just two times since he came here.
This two "little" things can make the difference between winning the title and finish second.

[aaron bond]

We've not really had many losing situations to come back from either. We've lost a few games late on, and a few to better opposition (Napoli, bayern)

Exactly this. We take the lead in almost every game. I'd much rather that than go a goal or two behind and have to fight back all of the time.

But this doesn't necessarily means we won the game. This season was little better, but still we managed to have even two goals up front and couldn't keep the score.

I have absolutely no idea what that means.

But now you're on about the one game where we threw away a 2 goal lead? There really is no pleasing some people.

How is this season only a little better? We're the top scorers, best defenders, have most wins, are top of the league and have been the most in-form team in the league all season. When did we achieve close to all of that last season?

A little better on keeping the score. Our away form is a little better that the one in the past year. Everyone knows we are the best team at home, no doubt and i am glad that we aren't satisfied if we don't win with a minimum of three goals ahead, but on the other hand we still managed to lose the Community Shield after having two up, drew with Fulham, didn't manage to keep the score in the Carling Cup semi and so on. There is no doubt that Bob had done a great job taking us this far, but still he have the same problems that we had in the past. We can't keep the score in some important occasions because we fail to concentrate and that we managed to comeback from behind just two times since he came here.
This two "little" things can make the difference between winning the title and finish second.

Wolves, QPR, Villareal, Porto...

[PeterParker]

Wolves, QPR, Villareal, Porto...

Yep, forgot about QPR and Wolves (the one in the Carling Cup, no?), but still. When we will comeback and win a game at Chelski, Scum or Everton, i will be convinced that our problems are over.

[Ted Hughes]

I don't blame Bob for many of the iffy results this season. I did blame him for the headless approach we had v Napoli, but from his comments afterwards, I think it was the players not following his instructions rather than him setting them up wrong.

I blame him partially for the cup defeats but I understand why he did what he did.

Previous two seasons I think he was, at times, utterly useless (such as his team selection home to Arsenal: joke) but he himself has improved overall since he arrived & imo has done mainly a fantastic job this season.

Some of the players have bottled it a bit here & there & underperformed, particularly in the Chump's Lg but that happens with new teams. If we are still bottling the Chimp's Lg in 3 years time then it's probably time to try someone else but I'd be happy for Bob to stay forever provided he keeps improving/ maintaining us & doesn't sign too many Kolarovs.

[Beefymcfc]

For the near future I don't think we can do any better and if he wins things he should be here to further our World domination (Dr Evil type laugh).

As for Moronhio, keep the eye-gouging egotistical fucker away from us at all costs, regardless of his success.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

I simply can't for the life of me understand why the thought would even enter anyone's head.

This present City team is several miles ahead of any City team that we have ever had in our long and celebrated history. No City fan since our inception has witnessed a City team with anywhere near our current record....and although I can willingly accept posts that analyse and discuss our players, their attributes and form, reading some of the ridiculous criticisms that some post about certain individual players and even Mancini, defies common sense.

Not only isn't it NOT broken, it certainly DOESN'T need fixing...and WE HAVE NEVER, NEVER, EVER HAD IT SO FUCLIN GOOD.
....and some of you still want to whinge and moan....GOD HELP US.

Calm Down Grandad.
The thought popped into my head reading an article in the MEN comparing Rodders introduction in '72 to Tevez coming back in '12 and the way we fucked up back then, with weeks to go and ended up 4th. I was merely musing as to whether that would cost Mancini his job now. Worth a chat about surely?

[Hazy2]

After Munich and Napoli away, I did think Naive. After Liverpool League Cup I thought priorities wrong, If we do not win the league and the rags do after the injuries they have had I will think poss failed, but we are in it for the long run, so no change just yet, however IMHO I feel he will leave and this summer maybe to soon,if Italy fail badly in the Euros, maybe he will be put in a position to return home. Managing City is huge now, Managing TEVEZ on top of that, who needs that, I hope not .

[bigblue]

There are circumstances where WW3 could start, the economy could crash, and a company trying to list themselves on the stock market could fail. However, these companies don't waste their time disclosing these risks in their S-1.

[Lee_R]

Under no circumstances should we part ways with Mancini at the end of this season. Definately not because Jose might be available! Mancini is in this for the long haul and will get even better the longer hes allowed to construct his own team. Jose would only want to stick around for the short term.. then what?...

[Blue2]

Under no circumstances should we part ways with Mancini at the end of this season. Definately not because Jose might be available! Mancini is in this for the long haul and will get even better the longer hes allowed to construct his own team. Jose would only want to stick around for the short term.. then what?...

Agree 100%, under no circumstances. should he be sacked.

[Lev Bronstein]

Under no circumstances should we part ways with Mancini at the end of this season. Definately not because Jose might be available! Mancini is in this for the long haul and will get even better the longer hes allowed to construct his own team. Jose would only want to stick around for the short term.. then what?...

Agree 100%, under no circumstances. should he be sacked.

Well maybe if the wheels totally came of and we finished 5th - even then, given the crap refereeing decisions we've had plus possible injuries to key players might be a better explanation than Bobby's alleged failings.

[john68]

Piccs,
Hahahaha...I just can't resist having a dig at you to check you're still breathing Mate. Now I know you still have a pulse ticking I'll bat on...:-)

Sorry mate but I was genuinely shocked that any consideration of Mancini being sacked could have drossed your mind. Now I understand where you got it from, the shock has returned.
I avidly read almost anything about city but immediately discounted that article as nothing more than mischief making by our local rags' rag. There is no comparison in any way between the Marsh transfer and Tevez returning.

The reason City failed when Marsh arrivedwas purely tactical. City would rapidly break from defence. Ball out the wingsand straight accross...goal!!!...that was the theory anyway. Marsh was a consumate ball playing entertainer. We hung from the rafters when he nutmegged Souness time and time again to the loud laughter and continuous OLes from the Kippax. We in the stands had a ball. Sadly, the likes of Bell Lee and Summerbee were out of the starting blocks and waiting for the pass that never came.

Tevez may be a lot of things but he is well versed in the way we play. Should he be fit and Bob decides to play him, he should fit seemlessly into the team.

A whole different kettle of fish and certainly nothing to do with the mischief making that the MuEN were intending.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

My memory of Marsh at that time was my Dad coming home from the match and one week he'd be waxing lyrical, "Oh Rodney, what a player" only to be followed next time with "That Rodney Marsh, what a fairy". I couldn't understand how he could hold the two views at the same time.
If Tevez was to be brought back into the line up and it resulted in us fucking up the team spirit and us missing the title, it would have some echoes of '72. Although I do appreciate the differences. I don't think it will be allowed to happen this time.

[Ted Hughes]

My memory of Marsh at that time was my Dad coming home from the match and one week he'd be waxing lyrical, "Oh Rodney, what a player" only to be followed next time with "That Rodney Marsh, what a fairy". I couldn't understand how he could hold the two views at the same time.
If Tevez was to be brought back into the line up and it resulted in us fucking up the team spirit and us missing the title, it would have some echoes of '72. Although I do appreciate the differences. I don't think it will be allowed to happen this time.

If the little twat does play, I just see it as City's team plus Tevez, as opposed to City's team without Tevez. He just does his own thing, which usually coincides with what everyone else is doing, so it works. I don't buy any of the stuff about him spoiling the way Silva plays etc, in fact, on the tunnel cam a while back, people translated Silva begging Aguero to drop back into midfield & basically do exactly what Tevez normally does.

Re Rodney Marsh. I thought he was an excuse for City fucking up & one of the best players in that period.

[RodneyRodney]

When Bob could or should be sacked?
If we fail to win the League?
If we implode and only finish 3rd or 4th and therefore below last season?
If we somehow managed to blow CL qualification?
If we finished the season empty handed?
I think a lot of us would be a bit miffed if we won nothing.

. . . only if Roy Keane agreed to replace him

[johnny crossan]

How could anyone even think of sacking Saint Bob?

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[Blueonblue]

It does need pointing out that as a team we are not yet the finished artical, but its been the likes of the MuEN that are trying to turn this into our one and only chance to win the title because they say red shite have had a lot of injuries while the other top teams have not played well but can not be as bad next season.

Bollocks!, Roberto has built us to the point we are better than the other teams, with imo a lot more to come as he fine tunes and adds strenth in key area`s, given what he walked into he has done a fantastic job and will continue to do so, I can not see the owner being anything but happy with the story so far, this "If he dont win the title now" routine is media driven nonsense.


Forza Mancini