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Re: Dzeko

Postby Original Dub » Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:58 am

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Another interesting stat would be how many balls played into them bounced 30 feet away. Or how many times they were pushed off the ball by a player a foot shorter. Or how many times they jogged around like their boots were too heavy to lift. Doubt they include those, though


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Re: Dzeko

Postby PALUS » Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:42 pm

Original Dub wrote:Every team in the world would prefer aguero to dzeko if it were a straight choice, so you bosnian fans shouldn't be so startled that he is our preferred choice if we go with one up front.

I like dzeko, I think he's an amazing finisher and at times he can create but it takes him to be at the very top of his game to do this. I like that he is an option from the bench or in a front two and I realise he will always get more stick than any of our attackers because he looks clumsy, even if most of the time, the outcome is the same.

But don't for one second try to tell the rest of us that we will be sorry if he leaves and "we will see" when he joins another club. We are top of the league and shifting back nicely into gear for the run in, thanks very much.

How about dzeko being sorry if he decides to leave the most progressive club in world football?

its not abaut him be best or bether then Aguero its abaut him been shit and undervalue us for blue in bosnia english leugue just have major slap frpm basel , napoli and milan so i dont see why u make premiere so far out when its not...
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Re: Dzeko

Postby PALUS » Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:46 pm

Blue Since 76 wrote:Dzeko is shit and only plays for City because he has incriminating photos of Mancini and Khaldoon. If he played for anyone else, he'd have scored about two goals by now. It's only that we have players like Silva and Aguero who can give him the goals on a plate that even a useless donkey like him couldn't miss that he's got more than a few goals.





There, that should end all the discussions on the matter, as I know everyone will be in full agreement.

hahaha u knpw city isint hes first club he play somwhere else with players not quality of silva and u know wath he scor utd 2 goals with that team and lot of goals for club or national selection so your argument is funy :)
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Re: Dzeko

Postby PALUS » Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:00 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:To those saying that they could see Dzeko moving on this summer - do you really think Mancini is going to give up on him after just 18 months? Do you really think the board/club would be happy with Mancini giving up on a £27million pound investment after 18 months?

To those saying that we need to adapt to suit his style - in my opinion you couldn't be more wrong. It us up to Dzeko to adapt to the team's style, great strikers do this, one trick ponies don't. ( sorry for Rag reference but Andy Cole is a case in point )

To those saying that Dzeko can't adapt - I say nonsense, he started out as a central midfielder and became a striker, he has the ability to adapt if he works hard enough to do it.

To those saying he needs space - just one example but did he need space to launch that counter against Arsenal in the CC which led to the winner? One of the best counter attacking goals you're ever likely to see thanks in no small part to Dzeko's brilliance.

He has his faults, there are areas of his game that he needs to improve on, of that there is no doubt but let's support him eh? He's one of ours. He is still 2 or 3 years of his peak and with the right attitude from him and enough support around him I believe he could go on to be one of the best marksmen the PL has ever seen.

thats all i want to see from funs to there own player, hes not the best but hes not crap ,and i know i m not so objectiv but when i see hes stats this season and when he score one involved in two in 20 min. and only post is o he mis placed the ball i must be disepointed becose i know he did good in that 20 min, enough to not crap for one mis placed ball....
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:56 pm

PALUS wrote:hahaha u knpw city isint hes first club he play somwhere else with players not quality of silva and u know wath he scor utd 2 goals with that team and lot of goals for club or national selection so your argument is funy :)


I'm worried you thought I was serious.

If we were offered the chance to return each of our players and get our money back, which would you sell and which would you keep? At £27m, Dzeko would be on his way back for me, but he wouldn't be the only one. That doesn't mean he's terrible, just that I don't think he's been worth the money.

Aguero I'd keep. Mario? I'd keep wrapping him up and then changing my mind before heading to the shop, convinced I must have misread the instructions and it'd be better if I just tried again. Then I'd get frustrated and start wrapping again.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby PALUS » Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:12 pm

Blue Since 76 wrote:
PALUS wrote:hahaha u knpw city isint hes first club he play somwhere else with players not quality of silva and u know wath he scor utd 2 goals with that team and lot of goals for club or national selection so your argument is funy :)


I'm worried you thought I was serious.

If we were offered the chance to return each of our players and get our money back, which would you sell and which would you keep? At £27m, Dzeko would be on his way back for me, but he wouldn't be the only one. That doesn't mean he's terrible, just that I don't think he's been worth the money.

Aguero I'd keep. Mario? I'd keep wrapping him up and then changing my mind before heading to the shop, convinced I must have misread the instructions and it'd be better if I just tried again. Then I'd get frustrated and start wrapping again.

City just make this team up and u are first in the league , strikers play relly good we score 93 goals so far , ok so we drop from C.L. but as i said this is first season that this team play with all this players and we play good and u wont to sell players , let me tell u a secret from one very fameus team in the world u amke the team then u wait them to know each other so good and then u rule with that team for 3- 4 years.That is how AC Milan is won the most trophy in world in last 25 years... i dont get why anybody wont to change wining team but ok i will say this Aguero and DZeko can be compere becose they are not same players and evry team need Aguero like player if they wont tobe big but let me tell u ,u got relly good results from dzeko this year if u compere how much he plays hes there with aguero in stats so why then hes not worth that money if u see that Tores is how much 50 and Carol is how much more then DZeko i assum...
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Re: Dzeko

Postby PALUS » Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:17 pm

By the way i dont have the game on my chenels i have evry fuckin game just one i wont i dont have , if anybody have stream ....
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Ted Hughes » Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:39 pm

PALUS wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Every team in the world would prefer aguero to dzeko if it were a straight choice, so you bosnian fans shouldn't be so startled that he is our preferred choice if we go with one up front.

I like dzeko, I think he's an amazing finisher and at times he can create but it takes him to be at the very top of his game to do this. I like that he is an option from the bench or in a front two and I realise he will always get more stick than any of our attackers because he looks clumsy, even if most of the time, the outcome is the same.

But don't for one second try to tell the rest of us that we will be sorry if he leaves and "we will see" when he joins another club. We are top of the league and shifting back nicely into gear for the run in, thanks very much.

How about dzeko being sorry if he decides to leave the most progressive club in world football?

its not abaut him be best or bether then Aguero its abaut him been shit and undervalue us for blue in bosnia english leugue just have major slap frpm basel , napoli and milan so i dont see why u make premiere so far out when its not...


The difference between the Premier League & every other league is that almost every game is potentially a mugging. It's not about how good the top sides are, it's about how tough most of the sides are; it's a relentless marathon.

The best technical side never wins our league unless it's also fucking tough. That's why Arsenal are history now.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby PALUS » Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:50 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
PALUS wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Every team in the world would prefer aguero to dzeko if it were a straight choice, so you bosnian fans shouldn't be so startled that he is our preferred choice if we go with one up front.

I like dzeko, I think he's an amazing finisher and at times he can create but it takes him to be at the very top of his game to do this. I like that he is an option from the bench or in a front two and I realise he will always get more stick than any of our attackers because he looks clumsy, even if most of the time, the outcome is the same.

But don't for one second try to tell the rest of us that we will be sorry if he leaves and "we will see" when he joins another club. We are top of the league and shifting back nicely into gear for the run in, thanks very much.

How about dzeko being sorry if he decides to leave the most progressive club in world football?

its not abaut him be best or bether then Aguero its abaut him been shit and undervalue us for blue in bosnia english leugue just have major slap frpm basel , napoli and milan so i dont see why u make premiere so far out when its not...


The difference between the Premier League & every other league is that almost every game is potentially a mugging. It's not about how good the top sides are, it's about how tough most of the sides are; it's a relentless marathon.

The best technical side never wins our league unless it's also fucking tough. That's why Arsenal are history now.
Its the best but not by that much wath u have in your mind , wolwes would batlle relegation batlle in Italy or Spain even Germany its the best league but not by margens that u have in your heads , by the way u know sream to watch the game ?
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Ted Hughes » Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:58 pm

PALUS wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
PALUS wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Every team in the world would prefer aguero to dzeko if it were a straight choice, so you bosnian fans shouldn't be so startled that he is our preferred choice if we go with one up front.

I like dzeko, I think he's an amazing finisher and at times he can create but it takes him to be at the very top of his game to do this. I like that he is an option from the bench or in a front two and I realise he will always get more stick than any of our attackers because he looks clumsy, even if most of the time, the outcome is the same.

But don't for one second try to tell the rest of us that we will be sorry if he leaves and "we will see" when he joins another club. We are top of the league and shifting back nicely into gear for the run in, thanks very much.

How about dzeko being sorry if he decides to leave the most progressive club in world football?

its not abaut him be best or bether then Aguero its abaut him been shit and undervalue us for blue in bosnia english leugue just have major slap frpm basel , napoli and milan so i dont see why u make premiere so far out when its not...


The difference between the Premier League & every other league is that almost every game is potentially a mugging. It's not about how good the top sides are, it's about how tough most of the sides are; it's a relentless marathon.

The best technical side never wins our league unless it's also fucking tough. That's why Arsenal are history now.

i just say to u its the best but not by that much wath u have in your mind , wolwes will batlle relegation batlle in Italy or Soain even Germany its the best league but not by margens that u have in your heads , by the way u know sream to watch the game ?



No, sorry don't know any streams.

Wolves would struggle in Italy or Spain, true. They would also beat one of the top Spanish sides occasionally, once every few years. So would West Brom or Swansea. That's the difference; any of them can have a good day & take points off a real top side, even when they appear to be too shit to have a chance. Suddenly, out of nothing, one of the shit sides will probably beat us or the rags before this season finishes.

This is where you need all your players fighting for every ball, or you can get mugged.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:05 pm

PALUS wrote:City just make this team up and u are first in the league , strikers play relly good we score 93 goals so far , ok so we drop from C.L. but as i said this is first season that this team play with all this players and we play good and u wont to sell players , let me tell u a secret from one very fameus team in the world u amke the team then u wait them to know each other so good and then u rule with that team for 3- 4 years.That is how AC Milan is won the most trophy in world in last 25 years... i dont get why anybody wont to change wining team but ok i will say this Aguero and DZeko can be compere becose they are not same players and evry team need Aguero like player if they wont tobe big but let me tell u ,u got relly good results from dzeko this year if u compere how much he plays hes there with aguero in stats so why then hes not worth that money if u see that Tores is how much 50 and Carol is how much more then DZeko i assum...


Would I prefer Dzeko to Carroll or Torres? Absolutely. Especially at the respective prices but even at a flat £27m that Dzeko cost (he cheapest). However, given the chance, I'd get my money back and put it towards Lavezzi.

Something you mentioned elsewhere about a stream struck me. I always find it harder to give an opinion on a performance in an away game, as either I've just seen the highlights or only seen what the camera picks up in a full game. When you're at the match you can see the off the ball stuff, the runs, the lack of runs etc (not meaning Dzeko, a lot of time when Hart has the ball, there's no one moving).. I suspect some of the negativity on here is from people who've seen Dzeko not put in the effort off the ball, that you won't have seen. This isn't meant to be a slight on anyone who isn't at the game, but, as I've said, I have a totally different perspective on an away game I only see on TV.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby PALUS » Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:10 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
PALUS wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
PALUS wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Every team in the world would prefer aguero to dzeko if it were a straight choice, so you bosnian fans shouldn't be so startled that he is our preferred choice if we go with one up front.

I like dzeko, I think he's an amazing finisher and at times he can create but it takes him to be at the very top of his game to do this. I like that he is an option from the bench or in a front two and I realise he will always get more stick than any of our attackers because he looks clumsy, even if most of the time, the outcome is the same.

But don't for one second try to tell the rest of us that we will be sorry if he leaves and "we will see" when he joins another club. We are top of the league and shifting back nicely into gear for the run in, thanks very much.

How about dzeko being sorry if he decides to leave the most progressive club in world football?

its not abaut him be best or bether then Aguero its abaut him been shit and undervalue us for blue in bosnia english leugue just have major slap frpm basel , napoli and milan so i dont see why u make premiere so far out when its not...


The difference between the Premier League & every other league is that almost every game is potentially a mugging. It's not about how good the top sides are, it's about how tough most of the sides are; it's a relentless marathon.

The best technical side never wins our league unless it's also fucking tough. That's why Arsenal are history now.

i just say to u its the best but not by that much wath u have in your mind , wolwes will batlle relegation batlle in Italy or Soain even Germany its the best league but not by margens that u have in your heads , by the way u know sream to watch the game ?



No, sorry don't know any streams.

Wolves would struggle in Italy or Spain, true. They would also beat one of the top Spanish sides occasionally, once every few years. So would West Brom or Swansea. That's the difference; any of them can have a good day & take points off a real top side, even when they appear to be too shit to have a chance. Suddenly, out of nothing, one of the shit sides will probably beat us or the rags before this season finishes.

This is where you need all your players fighting for every ball, or you can get mugged.

so can shit side from spain somtimes valladolid beat Real , its relly not that big difrence ....u have top 5 leagues and the rest u can talk abaut big changes in quality, no problem i try to find some on google...
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Ted Hughes » Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:15 pm

Win or lose, playing Valadolid on a good day, away from home, requires a different set of talents than playing Stoke on a good day. This league is different. All the players who come here, say so. Some, like Robinho, can't handle it.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby PALUS » Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:21 pm

Blue Since 76 wrote:
PALUS wrote:City just make this team up and u are first in the league , strikers play relly good we score 93 goals so far , ok so we drop from C.L. but as i said this is first season that this team play with all this players and we play good and u wont to sell players , let me tell u a secret from one very fameus team in the world u amke the team then u wait them to know each other so good and then u rule with that team for 3- 4 years.That is how AC Milan is won the most trophy in world in last 25 years... i dont get why anybody wont to change wining team but ok i will say this Aguero and DZeko can be compere becose they are not same players and evry team need Aguero like player if they wont tobe big but let me tell u ,u got relly good results from dzeko this year if u compere how much he plays hes there with aguero in stats so why then hes not worth that money if u see that Tores is how much 50 and Carol is how much more then DZeko i assum...


Would I prefer Dzeko to Carroll or Torres? Absolutely. Especially at the respective prices but even at a flat £27m that Dzeko cost (he cheapest). However, given the chance, I'd get my money back and put it towards Lavezzi.

Something you mentioned elsewhere about a stream struck me. I always find it harder to give an opinion on a performance in an away game, as either I've just seen the highlights or only seen what the camera picks up in a full game. When you're at the match you can see the off the ball stuff, the runs, the lack of runs etc (not meaning Dzeko, a lot of time when Hart has the ball, there's no one moving).. I suspect some of the negativity on here is from people who've seen Dzeko not put in the effort off the ball, that you won't have seen. This isn't meant to be a slight on anyone who isn't at the game, but, as I've said, I have a totally different perspective on an away game I only see on TV.

yea but u look fotball just for one day Lavvezzi is now in but u dont know wath he will be in England , i m glad that u told that Dzeko considering that Torres is 50 mil u would choose DZeko but thats my hole point if is good enogh to wont him more then TOrres who have big name no mather last poor season hes worth at list half of Torres money and would u rather change that asshole Tevez for Lavezzi and kept the man who dispate u all agree its not in the team who is playing to hes strength scores goals , fom my point he is going to be bether every year more and more when Silva lern how he play , and Aguero and rest of the team so u have strong atack now and this is firs season with Aguero here ... dont know i just think that u all ignore hes efectivnes becose he dont play like beutifol football...
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Ted Hughes » Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:23 pm

PALUS wrote:
Blue Since 76 wrote:
PALUS wrote:City just make this team up and u are first in the league , strikers play relly good we score 93 goals so far , ok so we drop from C.L. but as i said this is first season that this team play with all this players and we play good and u wont to sell players , let me tell u a secret from one very fameus team in the world u amke the team then u wait them to know each other so good and then u rule with that team for 3- 4 years.That is how AC Milan is won the most trophy in world in last 25 years... i dont get why anybody wont to change wining team but ok i will say this Aguero and DZeko can be compere becose they are not same players and evry team need Aguero like player if they wont tobe big but let me tell u ,u got relly good results from dzeko this year if u compere how much he plays hes there with aguero in stats so why then hes not worth that money if u see that Tores is how much 50 and Carol is how much more then DZeko i assum...


Would I prefer Dzeko to Carroll or Torres? Absolutely. Especially at the respective prices but even at a flat £27m that Dzeko cost (he cheapest). However, given the chance, I'd get my money back and put it towards Lavezzi.

Something you mentioned elsewhere about a stream struck me. I always find it harder to give an opinion on a performance in an away game, as either I've just seen the highlights or only seen what the camera picks up in a full game. When you're at the match you can see the off the ball stuff, the runs, the lack of runs etc (not meaning Dzeko, a lot of time when Hart has the ball, there's no one moving).. I suspect some of the negativity on here is from people who've seen Dzeko not put in the effort off the ball, that you won't have seen. This isn't meant to be a slight on anyone who isn't at the game, but, as I've said, I have a totally different perspective on an away game I only see on TV.

yea but u look fotball just for one day Lavvezzi is now in but u dont know wath he will be in England , i m glad that u told that Dzeko considering that Torres is 50 mil u would choose DZeko but thats my hole point if is good enogh to wont him more then TOrres who have big name no mather last poor season hes worth at list half of Torres money and would u rather change that asshole Tevez for Lavezzi and kept the man who dispate u all agree its not in the team who is playing to hes strength scores goals , fom my point he is going to be bether every year more and more when Silva lern how he play , and Aguero and rest of the team so u have strong atack now and this is firs season with Aguero here ... dont know i just think that u all ignore hes efectivnes becose he dont play like beutifol football...


Dzeko has produced some of our best football.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby PALUS » Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:25 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:Win or lose, playing Valadolid on a good day, away from home, requires a different set of talents than playing Stoke on a good day. This league is different. All the players who come here, say so. Some, like Robinho, can't handle it.

but he destroy Arsenal the other day (Robinho ) and is that a joke abaut DZeko and our best football :)
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Re: Dzeko

Postby Ted Hughes » Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:30 pm

PALUS wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Win or lose, playing Valadolid on a good day, away from home, requires a different set of talents than playing Stoke on a good day. This league is different. All the players who come here, say so. Some, like Robinho, can't handle it.

but he destroy Arsenal the other day (Robinho ) and is that a joke abaut DZeko and best play :)


Exactly. He destroyed Arsenal for City too. At Goodison Park though, he was brought on as sub, & taken back off again for being a little ponce.

No, I'm not joking about Dzeko. Some of his goals are amongst the best play we've produced & his breakaway move at arsenal was stunning. I keep on saying; my problem with Dzeko is purely down to him sometimes playing like a big tart. If he puts the effort in, I think he's excellent & could be here for years. If he doesn't he can go, soon.
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Re: Dzeko

Postby PALUS » Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:42 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
PALUS wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Win or lose, playing Valadolid on a good day, away from home, requires a different set of talents than playing Stoke on a good day. This league is different. All the players who come here, say so. Some, like Robinho, can't handle it.

but he destroy Arsenal the other day (Robinho ) and is that a joke abaut DZeko and best play :)


Exactly. He destroyed Arsenal for City too. At Goodison Park though, he was brought on as sub, & taken back off again for being a little ponce.

No, I'm not joking about Dzeko. Some of his goals are amongst the best play we've produced & his breakaway move at arsenal was stunning. I keep on saying; my problem with Dzeko is purely down to him sometimes playing like a big tart. If he puts the effort in, I think he's excellent & could be here for years. If he doesn't he can go, soon.

i can agree on that that somtimes he look like hes not trying but that is couple of times that i see and well i think he still adjusting for wath is faul in England wats not , would u say that this season hes triple best of when he come , i just think he need more time more good balls , Ted hes close to 20 goals already and if is start to play how u say all game 100 % then u will have somthing and i see here post like hes shit mis places pass like Aguero dont make mistakes , thats wats bothirig me i cant say when hes bad like against Bayern hes bad but funs of City some not all start to be a litlle spoild , its not like we can be good all the time , all teams have ups and downs....
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Re: Dzeko

Postby PALUS » Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:00 pm

So third game in a row beanch, ok i now think that he will leave City , 17 goals 8 assists and hes bench not even rotation player , i think he will be disepointed....
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