Red Issue - Scum hit another new low

[bawbag]

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Manchester-United-fanzine-Red-Issue-cause-controversy-with-satirical-Fabrice-Mumaba-cover-see-it-here-article883401.html

Scumbags

[Scatman]

Good point not particularly well made.

[DoomMerchant]

i'd expect this kind of coverage from Beeks, but i thought others were above sharing their redumacation with the rest of us.

i could fuclin care less what their fans do in a stupid fanzine. fucking dorks.

cheers

[john68]

i'd expect this kind of coverage from Beeks, but i thought others were above sharing their redumacation with the rest of us.

i could fuclin care less what their fans do in a stupid fanzine. fucking dorks.

cheers

I heard somewhere that a dork was a whale's willie....Are you an expert on these things?

[Sister of fu]

So i guess that they are also having a dig a the people that do the same for the Munich air disater year on year. Maybe they should have put a picture of that on the cover instead.

[Beeks]

i'd expect this kind of coverage from Beeks, but i thought others were above sharing their redumacation with the rest of us.

i could fuclin care less what their fans do in a stupid fanzine. fucking dorks.

cheers

I resent that comment Gringo..what happened to your constitution?

I reserve the right to hate whoever I please

You know the saying 'people in glass houses'

Let's face it..you lot practically invented bigotry

[Blue Blood]

So i guess that are also having a dig a the people that do the same for the Munich air disater year on year. Maybe they should have put a picture of that on the cover instead.

Oh shazzaamm. I love this comment.

Fucking rags, will they ever learn? (no)

[BlueinBosnia]

In fairness, I totally agree with their sentiments. It's poking fun at the "tonight, we're all Bolton fans" crew: No we're not, we're just humane.

I wonder whether anyone who cries out in indignation at this/gave their well wishes on the Muamba thread had anything to say on the subject of 'RIP Whitney'. Not Quite Doingitforme, Personally...

[DoomMerchant]

i'd expect this kind of coverage from Beeks, but i thought others were above sharing their redumacation with the rest of us.

i could fuclin care less what their fans do in a stupid fanzine. fucking dorks.

cheers

I resent that comment Gringo..what happened to your constitution?

I reserve the right to hate whoever I please

You know the saying 'people in glass houses'

Let's face it..you lot practically invented bigotry

invented it? we were running from being persecuted by you goddam bigots from the motherland!

also, this is my fave from glass houses

[youtube]vZVC6lNjOmY[/youtube]

[Socrates]

Great track doomy but this was better...

[youtube]Jo9t5XK0FhA[/youtube]

[Sister of fu]

In fairness, I totally agree with their sentiments. It's poking fun at the "tonight, we're all Bolton fans" crew: No we're not, we're just humane.

I wonder whether anyone who cries out in indignation at this/gave their well wishes on the Muamba thread had anything to say on the subject of 'RIP Whitney'. Not Quite Doingitforme, Personally...

There is a big difference though between some druggie pop star and a young fit footballer having a heart attack live on TV. I had no sympathy what so ever for Whitney but I did feel some compassion towards a footballer who I have seen play in person and seems a genuine nice lad. As someone else has said the sentiments are actually correct just done in the wrong way by the red issue.

Saying that I would never plaster RIP or get well soon to anyone on facebook and I know for a fact that the large number of people that did it on facebook that I know had no idea who the kid was until last Saturday and jumped on the sympathy bandwagon like people do.

[Wooders]

what really suprised me about the muamba thing was how "christian", or at least very religous, the whole premier league suddenly became with the whole pray for muamba stuff

quite eye opening in a country I felt was really losing it's religion

[simon12]

I would have loved to seen the reaction to the hoodies when they met the bindippers. Massive over reaction that it would have stirred up racial hatred, why would it? It would have justed kicked off big time.

[Im_Spartacus]

Is fake grief any better or worse than ccommercially sponsored grief?

These silly cunts didn't even think before writing this did they..........when their club is guilty of annual shameless profiteering from tragedy

[BlueinBosnia]

what really suprised me about the muamba thing was how "christian", or at least very religous, the whole premier league suddenly became with the whole pray for muamba stuff

quite eye opening in a country I felt was really losing it's religion

I'm pretty sure Muamba is a very, very religious guy- something that will be well-known to all Prem players who've played with him/his current or former clubmates.

[Ted Hughes]

what really suprised me about the muamba thing was how "christian", or at least very religous, the whole premier league suddenly became with the whole pray for muamba stuff

quite eye opening in a country I felt was really losing it's religion

I'm pretty sure Muamba is a very, very religious guy- something that will be well-known to all Prem players who've played with him/his current or former clubmates.

Also, when a bloke is at deaths door, the godless characters like myself don't want to chirp up & start religious arguments with wellwishers. Just leave them to it & good luck to them.

[Dameerto]

Also, when a bloke is at deaths door, the godless characters like myself don't want to chirp up & start religious arguments with wellwishers. Just leave them to it & good luck to them.

Amen to that.

[Beefymcfc]

This is the first time I've seen this and I've got to say, what a bunch of low-life cunts. Regardless of the Facebook/Twatter/social sites, what about his family, his friends, those supporters in the ground and at home, but moreover, Fabrice Muamba himself who is still critical in a hospital bed?

The Scum who decided to put that out knew what sort of reaction they would get and did so knowing that they would get maximum publicity. I suppose there's no difference between this and what they do on an annual basis, their pilgramage to the shrine that is the Munich Air Disaster. You know the one, at Old Trafford, with sponsored bill boards and club shop memorabilia. Where nearly every Rag mourns the loss of players that they've read about on Wikipedia or heard about on Sky Sports.

Now, if someone decided to use a picture of my sons lifeless body as part of a parody to somehow gain notoriety then I'd ensure I tracked that individual down, get a friend to point him out and then do unspeakable damage to that person, and to the individuals who aided him. Diminished responsibilty I'd call it.

And for those who have the notion that it's 'Fairly OK' because they are poking fun at those who prayed and sent their thoughts, think back to Marc Vivien Foe, a player that was on a seasons loan to us. I was watching that game and although I wasn't grief stricken it was a shock to see a player lose his life in such a way. The difference there being that if that had happened in the UK then maybe his life could've been saved and given him a fighting chance, just like Muamba. And what happened when the Scum plastered MVPs name over Mary Ds before the Derby, remember the outrage, the total disgust that followed, well that was us, feeling the same as the Muamba family, the Bolton fans and football in general.

This was a very sad event, for many, and the Scum who decided to print that at a whim should be rightly castigated, not applauded. What's a matter with them, have Muamba and Bolton taken some of the limelight for their own grieving; do United fans hold the monopoly? No, not really, that's held by the club, the supporters are just the sheep who ensure the legacy of making money from a disaster moves on.

[Im_Spartacus]

This is the first time I've seen this and I've got to say, what a bunch of low-life cunts. Regardless of the Facebook/Twatter/social sites, what about his family, his friends, those supporters in the ground and at home, but moreover, Fabrice Muamba himself who is still critical in a hospital bed?

The Scum who decided to put that out knew what sort of reaction they would get and did so knowing that they would get maximum publicity. I suppose there's no difference between this and what they do on an annual basis, their pilgramage to the shrine that is the Munich Air Disaster. You know the one, at Old Trafford, with sponsored bill boards and club shop memorabilia. Where nearly every Rag mourns the loss of players that they've read about on Wikipedia or heard about on Sky Sports.

Now, if someone decided to use a picture of my sons lifeless body as part of a parody to somehow gain notoriety then I'd ensure I tracked that individual down, get a friend to point him out and then do unspeakable damage to that person, and to the individuals who aided him. Diminished responsibilty I'd call it.

And for those who have the notion that it's 'Fairly OK' because they are poking fun at those who prayed and sent their thoughts, think back to Marc Vivien Foe, a player that was on a seasons loan to us. I was watching that game and although I wasn't grief stricken it was a shock to see a player lose his life in such a way. The difference there being that if that had happened in the UK then maybe his life could've been saved and given him a fighting chance, just like Muamba. And what happened when the Scum plastered MVPs name over Mary Ds before the Derby, remember the outrage, the total disgust that followed, well that was us, feeling the same as the Muamba family, the Bolton fans and football in general.

This was a very sad event, for many, and the Scum who decided to print that at a whim should be rightly castigated, not applauded. What's a matter with them, have Muamba and Bolton taken some of the limelight for their own grieving; do United fans hold the monopoly? No, not really, that's held by the club, the supporters are just the sheep who ensure the legacy of making money from a disaster moves on.

My main issue, being a football fanzine, is that they are passing comment on a social phenomenon, not a footballing one. As a result they could have still made their point in a more tasteful manner and still been satirical and edgy with it.

But as i have already said, for them to write this when they have cornered the market in manufactured, commercial grief just shows the clubs supporters for how totally unable rags are to see the faults in their own club.

[CityGer]

Matthew Syed wrote a piece in the Times last week saying pretty much the same thing.

The difference is that he is a class sports writer and therefore did it with a sense of class and some decoram. His point was the same, though.