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Re: Plan B

Postby zuricity » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:19 pm

Rag_hater wrote:The thing is that teams park the bus more at COMs,its when they attack us whether it be on the counter or from set pieces or closing us down is when we struggle.Attacking more whether it be by putting the strikers on is I think the way


i'm with King Kev on this it doesn't matter how many plans you have, parking the bus like Swansea did at home, with two rows , one of six and one of three within a 10 yard area around the penalty box is damn difficult to break down, teams have a mindset not to give anything away. Swansea didn't play that way against united at home, Fulham didn't park the bus at the swamp. united just hoof it in and hope foe the best, so far it has worked for them. having a centre back miss a header and a fullback let the ball bounce off his leg, as happened on monday is hardly a cunning plan by united is it? they got lucky again.
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Re: Plan B

Postby Swales4ever » Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:48 am

zuricity wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:The thing is that teams park the bus more at COMs,its when they attack us whether it be on the counter or from set pieces or closing us down is when we struggle.Attacking more whether it be by putting the strikers on is I think the way


i'm with King Kev on this it doesn't matter how many plans you have, parking the bus like Swansea did at home, with two rows , one of six and one of three within a 10 yard area around the penalty box is damn difficult to break down, teams have a mindset not to give anything away. Swansea didn't play that way against united at home, Fulham didn't park the bus at the swamp. united just hoof it in and hope foe the best, so far it has worked for them. having a centre back miss a header and a fullback let the ball bounce off his leg, as happened on monday is hardly a cunning plan by united is it? they got lucky again.


The best team in the world just proved You are damned spot on on wednesday at san siro. and they are a completely finished article, which exudes confidence from every pore, while referees don't use to prevent them from pushing hard nor to allow their opponents to play rugby.

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Re: Plan B

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:25 am

zuricity wrote:
i'm with King Kev on this it doesn't matter how many plans you have, parking the bus like Swansea did at home, with two rows , one of six and one of three within a 10 yard area around the penalty box is damn difficult to break down, teams have a mindset not to give anything away. Swansea didn't play that way against united at home, Fulham didn't park the bus at the swamp. united just hoof it in and hope foe the best, so far it has worked for them. having a centre back miss a header and a fullback let the ball bounce off his leg, as happened on monday is hardly a cunning plan by united is it? they got lucky again.


That would be all well and good if these games were finishing 0-0, but they're not. These teams are catching us off guard and were wasteful when they do leave the space.

We need to make sure if teams park the bus that they bloody stay there. When they do venture forward we need to be ruthless and pick them off on the counter. Our counter attack is way too slow and that hurts us.
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Re: Plan B

Postby zuricity » Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:25 am

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:
That would be all well and good if these games were finishing 0-0, but they're not. These teams are catching us off guard and were wasteful when they do leave the space.

We need to make sure if teams park the bus that they bloody stay there. When they do venture forward we need to be ruthless and pick them off on the counter. Our counter attack is way too slow and that hurts us.


We do counter attack. Zabba should have blasted one in at Stoke instead of trying to pass through a player to Edin . We can and are controlling our own destiny, man u are riding their luck on the idea that the opposition at sometime will make big mistakes. Those two fulham players didn't even hold the line when moving out of the box before united lobbed the ball back in. Inviting the dangerous cross in too, almost as if it was planned to be that way. !
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Re: Plan B

Postby dick dastardley » Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:08 am

LETS NOT FUCK ABOUT WITH TIPPY TAPPY SIDE TO SIDE PASSING GO FOR THE JUGULAR AND GET AT ANY TEAM FROM THE OFF INSTEAD OF FUCKING ABOUT!!



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Re: Plan B

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:08 am

Barca would be an even better team if they could mix it up & that's a fact. Sometimes what they are doing for periods in a game is not the best way to break down the way the defence facing them is set up. But they keep going and usually prevail, as would we v Stoke, Swansea & Everton if we swapped Balotelli or Dzeko for Lionel Messi.

However, there's a decent chance Balotelli or Dzeko would have scored v AC Milan the other night, if they had played alongside Messi.

People keep forgetting when they talk about Barca's style, that they have Messi. If we had him, we would beat them.

If Barca continue to win everything playing the way they do, then they will continue playingthat way. If however Real Madrid eclipse them, they will change. Pep signed Ibrahimovic & that is a clear indication that he thought there was another dimension they could go to. It didn't work but he tried it, meaning he sees it.

There is no reason a team can't aspire to pass & move like Barca but also have power & width. Someone will do it evetually & that team will be better than Barca. I hope it's us.
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Re: Plan B

Postby Blue Since 76 » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:55 am

Ted Hughes wrote:. But they keep going and usually prevail, as would we v Stoke, Swansea & Everton if we swapped Balotelli or Dzeko for Lionel Messi.



Of the two, I'd probably go for swapping Dzeko, but I'm not sure Barca would go for it. How about if we threw AJ in as well to give them cover on the wing?

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Re: Plan B

Postby Swales4ever » Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:24 am

Ted Hughes wrote:People keep forgetting when they talk about Barca's style, that they have Messi. If we had him, we would beat them.

I certainly don't.
was just to stress the point of what difficult is to break through when oppenents hold by 10 behind the ball in organized shape.
very few to do with difensive mindset as opposite to gung-go. people seems to assess the mindset according to the final scoreline.
at the end of the day, actors play the tale and that what mainly define the outcome.

nothing to do with supporting the manager bar supporting the style we are establishing: whether Mancio or Pep I'll be great when Kompany shall lift the Chump having imposed a stylish (and pacy) passing game.

as almost the times I do agree 100%: what the signign of Edin was for if not to forge a new Ibrahimovic (less cuntish btw)

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