Mancini

[Tokyo Blue]

We were 5 points ahead...now we are potentially 5 points behind

Crying before you are hurt.

[carl_feedthegoat]

By the way, for everyone saying how shit we've been since December - if the league had started in 2012, we'd only be 2 points behind the rags. Not as bad as the all out implosion that some people are suggesting:

'kinell, bigblue, you can't go bringing facts into it.

Ive shown you a (Delayed)fact above this one....5 POINTS AHEAD AND NOW 5 POINTS BEHIND LATER TODAY...THAT IS SHIT....FUCKIGN SHIT.

[carl_feedthegoat]

We were 5 points ahead...now we are potentially 5 points behind

Crying before you are hurt.

If you fall from a tall building you are going to cry before you hit the ground.

[Kiss_The_Goat]

We were 5 points ahead...now we are potentially 5 points behind

Crying before you are hurt.

If you fall from a tall building you are going to cry before you hit the ground.

There are 7 GAMES left!!! thats a lot of minutes of football... including a derby!! One thing is sure in football - its never over til its over! Keep believing. Attitude, belief and energy is everything at this stage of a season, and that goes as much for the fans as it does the players... they feed off the energy of the fans! Fight to end!

[carl_feedthegoat]

We were 5 points ahead...now we are potentially 5 points behind

Crying before you are hurt.

If you fall from a tall building you are going to cry before you hit the ground.

There are 7 GAMES left!!! thats a lot of minutes of football... including a derby!! One thing is sure in football - its never over til its over! Keep believing. Attitude, belief and energy is everything at this stage of a season, and that goes as much for the fans as it does the players... they feed off the energy of the fans! Fight to end!

I agree and if I saw the above attitude when we played Sunderland then I would feel positive for the remaining 7 games.....but it was a shambolic 70 mins.........can you see where I'm going with this ?

[Im_Spartacus]

Sorry to burst your bubble you fuckign loon but 99% of successful teams do not have a long term manager...........they have lots of money.

seriously..its not a myth.

Spot on mate. Some people would have you believe that the likes of ac milan and real madrid had won less than united during bacon's tenure than the reverse actually being the case, having gone through over two dozen managers between them.

In the light of overwhelming evidence, namely that there is only 1 football manager who has been successful for such a sustained period, one would think thatpeople would realise that giving a manager time clearly does not result in a fergie type dynasty that some people at city believe would happenif we gave the present incumbent more time (not naming rm here btw, that applies to any of the managers we have had)

[Kiss_The_Goat]

We were 5 points ahead...now we are potentially 5 points behind

Crying before you are hurt.

If you fall from a tall building you are going to cry before you hit the ground.

There are 7 GAMES left!!! thats a lot of minutes of football... including a derby!! One thing is sure in football - its never over til its over! Keep believing. Attitude, belief and energy is everything at this stage of a season, and that goes as much for the fans as it does the players... they feed off the energy of the fans! Fight to end!

I agree and if I saw the above attitude when we played Sunderland then I would feel positive for the remaining 7 games.....but it was a shambolic 70 mins.........can you see where I'm going with this ?

I can, and I know Sunderland was shit and frustrating, as was Stoke. But they're over now and there's nothing anyone can do about it. We just have to focus on winning the last 7 games and pressuring the scum into dropping some more points... I'm sure the players have watched the games and seen how poorly we defended and played, and will be spending all week working on it. The players want to win this league as much as we do! If we start winning games, the shit will wobble - they nearly blew it against Fulham... they're not a great side - we need to put them under some pressure!!

[zuricity]

We were 5 points ahead...now we are potentially 5 points behind

Crying before you are hurt.

If you fall from a tall building you are going to cry before you hit the ground.

After 7 games we were equal top with united on 19 points

After the derby game(9th) we went 5 points clear,

After 14 games we were still 5 points clear

After 21 games we were 3 point clear

After 28 games we were 1 point behind

We are currently 2 points behind.


Anything can happen in the run in. There are still 21 points for City to battle for.

[Im_Spartacus]

After 7 games we were equal top with united on 19 points

After the derby game(9th) we went 5 points clear,

After 14 games we were still 5 points clear

After 21 games we were 3 point clear

After 28 games we were 1 point behind

We are currently 2 points behind.

Anything can happen in the run in. There are still 21 points for City to battle for.

Yes, anything can happen, but does the long term trend of what you posted not concern you. Having just been identified as a kneejerk reactionary on another thread, surely the timespan of this decline is long enough to give weight to those who are saying that mancini has failed, bigtime, to manage the challenges set of him by the sides we have played since managers cracked his tactics.
The only hope we have left is that uniteds run, of 5 months better form than us, has to come to an end sometime

[zuricity]

After 7 games we were equal top with united on 19 points

After the derby game(9th) we went 5 points clear,

After 14 games we were still 5 points clear

After 21 games we were 3 point clear

After 28 games we were 1 point behind

We are currently 2 points behind.

Anything can happen in the run in. There are still 21 points for City to battle for.

Yes, anything can happen, but does the long term trend of what you posted not concern you. Having just been identified as a kneejerk reactionary on another thread, surely the timespan of this decline is long enough to give weight to those who are saying that mancini has failed, bigtime, to manage the challenges set of him by the sides we have played since managers cracked his tactics.
The only hope we have left is that uniteds run, of 5 months better form than us, has to come to an end sometime

no the long term trend doesn't concern me because results have happened along the way for and against City and for and against United.

It is an up hill battle at the moment, but just as United beat Arsenal so did QPR and so can City. United play a QPR team feeling a bit more confident , they play a Blackburn team needing points tonight it could be messy tonight for them

[carl_feedthegoat]

We were 5 points ahead...now we are potentially 5 points behind

Crying before you are hurt.

As I was saying.....

[Im_Spartacus]

no the long term trend doesn't concern me because results have happened along the way for and against City and for and against United.

It is an up hill battle at the moment, but just as United beat Arsenal so did QPR and so can City. United play a QPR team feeling a bit more confident , they play a Blackburn team needing points tonight it could be messy tonight for them

But whilst results have gone for and against both clubs, they have made up 10 points on us, so clearly more results have gone for them. How can you just gloss over a 10 point swing which shows that one team over a prolonged period, is not just better, but significantly better at getting results

[Tru_Blu]

Progress

a movement toward a goal or to a further or higher stage:
growth or development; continuous improvement:
advancement in general

Mancini

Wins FA CUP
1st Time CL qualification
2nd place fighting for League glory

What more can i say?

[Ted Hughes]

no the long term trend doesn't concern me because results have happened along the way for and against City and for and against United.

It is an up hill battle at the moment, but just as United beat Arsenal so did QPR and so can City. United play a QPR team feeling a bit more confident , they play a Blackburn team needing points tonight it could be messy tonight for them

But whilst results have gone for and against both clubs, they have made up 10 points on us, so clearly more results have gone for them. How can you just gloss over a 10 point swing which shows that one team over a prolonged period, is not just better, but significantly better at getting results

2 pens v Chelsea & a blatant one not given v Fulham.

Sort that & there's the lead gone. Imagine if Ferguson's future depended on those refs getting those decisions right. How ridiculous would that be ?

[Im_Spartacus]

2 pens v Chelsea & a blatant one not given v Fulham.

Sort that & there's the lead gone. Imagine if Ferguson's future depended on those refs getting those decisions right. How ridiculous would that be ?

Oh come on mate, the league doesn't lie.

[Ted Hughes]

2 pens v Chelsea & a blatant one not given v Fulham.

Sort that & there's the lead gone. Imagine if Ferguson's future depended on those refs getting those decisions right. How ridiculous would that be ?

Oh come on mate, the league doesn't lie.

I think that this year, so far, it does.

If we play shite from now on & the rags play well then fair enough but I strongly believe that we have played better than them over the course of the season so far & that they have had the breaks whilst we haven't.

The simple fact that they played Steve Bruce's Sunderland straight after the 1-6 is a defining moment imo. I watched the whole of that game & it's amongst the worst performances I've ever seen from a Utd side. Sunderland were dogshite but still Utd were caking their pants & the crowd was whinging like fuck. Up steps Wes Brown with an OG then Bendtner misses a few sitters.

I don't believe for one minute that it was a brown envelope job, but had it been one, they could not have done it better. Any decent side would have finished Utd's season that day.

They have been very lucky on many crucial occasions. We have been mainly unlucky at similar key moments.

If I was a City fan winning the league with Utd's squad & performances, I would feel elated, like I'd got away with murder, but be very very worried that a long stretch awaited me in the future.

[Im_Spartacus]

I think that this year, so far, it does.

If we play shite from now on & the rags play well then fair enough but I strongly believe that we have played better than them over the course of the season so far & that they have had the breaks whilst we haven't.

The simple fact that they played Steve Bruce's Sunderland straight after the 1-6 is a defining moment imo. I watched the whole of that game & it's amongst the worst performances I've ever seen from a Utd side. Sunderland were dogshite but still Utd were caking their pants & the crowd was whinging like fuck. Up steps Wes Brown with an OG the Bendtner misses a few sitters.

I don't believe for one minute that it was a brown envelope job, but ad it been one, they could not have done it better. Any decent side would have finished Utd's season that day.

They have been very lucky on many crucial occasions. We have been mainly unlucky at similar key moments.

If I was a City fan winning the league with Utd's squad & performances, I would feel elated, like I'd got away with murder, but be very very worried that a long stretch awaited me in the future.

My perception of what happened after the 1-6 is that as you say, they were at sixes and sevens. They did however, by hook or by crook manage to eek out 5 or 6 1.0 victories on the spin, it wasnt pretty at all but they went back to the simple basics of sorting out their makeshift defence and rebuilding their game and confidence.

That run of 1.0 victories, although we derided it at the time, is what will win them the league if things stay as they are.

That run of 1.0 victories in a tough spell, is something we seem incapable of doing, and that is the difference when it boils down to it

[Ted Hughes]

I think that this year, so far, it does.

If we play shite from now on & the rags play well then fair enough but I strongly believe that we have played better than them over the course of the season so far & that they have had the breaks whilst we haven't.

The simple fact that they played Steve Bruce's Sunderland straight after the 1-6 is a defining moment imo. I watched the whole of that game & it's amongst the worst performances I've ever seen from a Utd side. Sunderland were dogshite but still Utd were caking their pants & the crowd was whinging like fuck. Up steps Wes Brown with an OG the Bendtner misses a few sitters.

I don't believe for one minute that it was a brown envelope job, but ad it been one, they could not have done it better. Any decent side would have finished Utd's season that day.

They have been very lucky on many crucial occasions. We have been mainly unlucky at similar key moments.

If I was a City fan winning the league with Utd's squad & performances, I would feel elated, like I'd got away with murder, but be very very worried that a long stretch awaited me in the future.

My perception of what happened after the 1-6 is that as you say, they were at sixes and sevens. They did however, by hook or by crook manage to eek out 5 or 6 1.0 victories on the spin, it wasnt pretty at all but they went back to the simple basics of sorting out their makeshift defence and rebuilding their game and confidence.

That run of 1.0 victories, although we derided it at the time, is what will win them the league if things stay as they are.

That run of 1.0 victories in a tough spell, is something we seem incapable of doing, and that is the difference when it boils down to it

None of those victories was against teams who'd spent the past week slaving over a way of stopping them like thay have with City. Had they done so, it would have been a lot of 0-0 draws. They had Rooney playing in midfield for some of those. It was desperate & they got away with it because they were allowed to, not because they played well or like 'Champions'.

They have been fortunate to stay in the race this year, mainly down to the fact that the top teams have been under strength when they played them imo. If Bale had played for Spurs, they would have 3 points less for a start. Arsenal were decimated boith times. Chelsea battered them twice & were just plain unlucky. It adds up to a lot of points.

[MR IMAINEROAD]

2 pens v Chelsea & a blatant one not given v Fulham.

Sort that & there's the lead gone. Imagine if Ferguson's future depended on those refs getting those decisions right. How ridiculous would that be ?

Oh come on mate, the league doesn't lie.

And neither do politicians....

[Rag_hater]

I think that this year, so far, it does.

If we play shite from now on & the rags play well then fair enough but I strongly believe that we have played better than them over the course of the season so far & that they have had the breaks whilst we haven't.

The simple fact that they played Steve Bruce's Sunderland straight after the 1-6 is a defining moment imo. I watched the whole of that game & it's amongst the worst performances I've ever seen from a Utd side. Sunderland were dogshite but still Utd were caking their pants & the crowd was whinging like fuck. Up steps Wes Brown with an OG the Bendtner misses a few sitters.

I don't believe for one minute that it was a brown envelope job, but ad it been one, they could not have done it better. Any decent side would have finished Utd's season that day.

They have been very lucky on many crucial occasions. We have been mainly unlucky at similar key moments.

If I was a City fan winning the league with Utd's squad & performances, I would feel elated, like I'd got away with murder, but be very very worried that a long stretch awaited me in the future.

My perception of what happened after the 1-6 is that as you say, they were at sixes and sevens. They did however, by hook or by crook manage to eek out 5 or 6 1.0 victories on the spin, it wasnt pretty at all but they went back to the simple basics of sorting out their makeshift defence and rebuilding their game and confidence.

That run of 1.0 victories, although we derided it at the time, is what will win them the league if things stay as they are.

That run of 1.0 victories in a tough spell, is something we seem incapable of doing, and that is the difference when it boils down to it

None of those victories was against teams who'd spent the past week slaving over a way of stopping them like thay have with City. Had they done so, it would have been a lot of 0-0 draws. They had Rooney playing in midfield for some of those. It was desperate & they got away with it because they were allowed to, not because they played well or like 'Champions'.

They have been fortunate to stay in the race this year, mainly down to the fact that the top teams have been under strength when they played them imo. If Bale had played for Spurs, they would have 3 points less for a start. Arsenal were decimated boith times. Chelsea battered them twice & were just plain unlucky. It adds up to a lot of points.

If the twats get the luck though like they have for a number of years what can we do?