Mancini has to go?

[Fesan]

People saying mancini lost us the league, you are quick to forget he was the one who put us in a position to win it in the first place. Going for the title in the PL is something else to any oter title race, should we not give him the opportunity to learn from his first try? If we don't give people ONE chance to learn how is the club ever going to evolve?

[Wooders]

People saying mancini lost us the league, you are quick to forget he was the one who put us in a position to win it in the first place. Going for the title in the PL is something else to any oter title race, should we not give him the opportunity to learn from his first try? If we don't give people ONE chance to learn how is the club ever going to evolve?

actually I agree entirely

the only concern I have is that he isn't learning from his mistakes

[Gentlesnipes]

We need to get rid of Balotelli and bring back Adebayor. I will have Adebayor over Balotelli anyday. I am just feed up with that kid, he has no value for life

[Esky]

Compared to United, we can't complain about injuries - they had a bad time of it before Christmas. Vidic has also been out for most of the season, which is like us losing Kompany. The difference, though, is that where Evans has stepped up for them, Savic was brought in here and has played like a fucking donkey.

[Gentlesnipes]

Compared to United, we can't complain about injuries - they had a bad time of it before Christmas. Vidic has also been out for most of the season, which is like us losing Kompany. The difference, though, is that where Evans has stepped up for them, Savic was brought in here and has played like a fucking donkey.

In my honest opinion, Savic and bad referring cost us the Carling and FA cup. Savic should be the first out of the door. He failed a defending TRAIL at ARSENAL and we still managed to sign him for 6 million quid. Fair play to his agent

[Gentlesnipes]

If you compare the start we had and the one Arsenal had, I can not believe we are basically finishing the season on par . I even had a dream we gave united the guard of honour at the Etihad.

[PeterParker]

If things go the same way like they did in march, we can lose even the second position. We have Wolves, Norwich and Newcastle and they way we are looking now, i think we will get 2 or 4 points from that. If they didn't bother to win with Arsenal, why do that with those teams?

So the question is this, if we continue like this and then finish on the third spot, do we still consider this as a succesfull season?

I am sorry to say, but for me he has to go, even if we don't have anyone else to replace him. He has done to many mistakes & if he wants another 100 mil for new players, that means he is out of his mind.

I said last week that almost every player has a "meh" feeling if Bob stays or goes. If they would had cared so much about him, then they would had given all they got to keep him here, to fight for him. But no and imho, that reflects he doesn't have the backup of the squad.

I don't think he will learn and change, not now and not in the future. Don't forget that his decision of overusing Dave in useless games is the main reason that he is out now and we didn't have any vision in the middle in the past 2 months.

[Crossie]

He gets another season imo.

Everyone needs time to learn. This was his first full season, he has fucked it up. He should not fuck it up next season. He also won the FA Cup. Led the league for 28 games, its frustrating right now, but we've done fucking well, its the manner that we have failed that is really annoying.

We need to grow up, get rid of children like Balotelli, Adebayor, Tevez. We need a professional team, disciplined. All squad players need to be usable and know their role.

Another summer should result in there being plenty of time for Mancini and his back room to sort it out. No excuses next season.

[s1ty m]

Mancini has spent a ridiculous amount (£100 million plus) on palyers ranging from inconsistent to outright shite: Dzeko, Kolarov, Savic, Milner, Nasri, Boateng, Balotelli, AJ.....I'd not be arsed about lumping Clichy (worst crosser of a ball I can remember) into that list either.

Mancini's man management also looks, as far as is possible tell, a bit questionable: Tevez (OK, he was being a shit), Bellamy, Adebayor, now fucking Balotelli.....

I'd not be trusting him with a transfer budget. Neither would I continue with him. So, yes to the OP, he has to go.

[everyonehatesus]

If you compare the start we had and the one Arsenal had, I can not believe we are basically finishing the season on par . I even had a dream we gave united the guard of honour at the Etihad.

I would give him another season, for fuck sake its our best ever finish and we have smashed our best ever points total for the premier league. The football we played for the frirst half of the season was simply fantastic, now the TEAM have to learn its not a bloody sprint.
As for the guard of honour, I would make the fucking lot of them do it. Maybe with the home fans showing what it means to them to be put through it, those player stopping would get a clear picture that its simply not good enough.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

Mancini has spent a ridiculous amount (£100 million plus) on palyers ranging from inconsistent to outright shite: Dzeko, Kolarov, Savic, Milner, Nasri, Boateng, Balotelli, AJ.....I'd not be arsed about lumping Clichy (worst crosser of a ball I can remember) into that list either.

Mancini's man management also looks, as far as is possible tell, a bit questionable: Tevez (OK, he was being a shit), Bellamy, Adebayor, now fucking Balotelli.....

I'd not be trusting him with a transfer budget. Neither would I continue with him. So, yes to the OP, he has to go.

Harsh on clichy, but otherwise I concur in regards to transfers and man management.

That said I think I'm planted in the only sack if Jose is coming camp.

[EEE]

Mancini (and the players) has made a mess of the last part of the season. Whether or not we make a turn around and win our last 6 games of the season - our drop in form has been remarkable. However, I fully believe that replacing Mancini would be a step back for us, at least looking over the coming 5 years. Mancini had us playing the best football in England and we were a pure joy to watch. He has made plenty of mistakes during the season and at points I think he's to stubborn to admit it and make corresponding changes. However, I'm sure he knows what's he's done wrong and I'm confident Mancini will up his act come next season. I truly believe he would get us playing at a more consistent level throughout next season.

The last six games of the season is key here though - they will clearly tell how Mancini get his act together, but more importantly - how the players responds to their manager´s guidance. If the team show true fighting spirit and grit come the last games of the season; Mancini is my man for the next season (seasons that should be).

Long term thinking is the most important thing here - and I think Mancini is a better bet than Mourinho/Guardiola and the other usual victims ppl drag up here.

[Blue Since 76]

He gets another season imo.

Everyone needs time to learn. This was his first full season, he has fucked it up. He should not fuck it up next season. .

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Second full season. How may chances to be shit does he get before we're all in agreement that enough is enough?

[Ted Hughes]

The owners have to decide if they are hitching their waggon to Mancini's horse, not just for a season but for the long road.

If they aren't willing to back him to the hilt, through thick & thin then they should get rid now imo. After yesterday, I no longer trust him to deliver quick success. I still trust his abilities to get it right eventually but he bottled it (again) & there's no guarantee he won't do the same if faced with the same situation. He is as much a 'project' as the club. He's not ready yet either in the Prem or in Europe.

We have to decide whether to keep him, mistakes and all or get a new bloke, who will also make mistakes.

As some have pointed out, it is becoming clear that a fair few of his signings have not worked out t the level required. We either allow him to try & remedy that or we let a new bloke come in & apply his thinking to it.

The problem with the second option is that, whilst you all think the new bloke will come in, get the best from Silva, sell Dzeko & Balotelli & bring in A+B, and everything is perfect, what actually happens in these circumstances could be more like;

New bloke arrives, sells Aguero, Lescott, builds side around Dzeko & Tevez, puts Silva on bench, insists on playing Kolarov & some shite Bolivian CB. Tevez asks for transfer at Christmas along with Silva.

Mancini: "He'll get the best out of Robinho, not like that Welsh knob" you said. He sold him.

Mancini got rid of Craig Bellamy. A few hotheads on here may have agreed but most City fans were mortified & rightly so, it was one of the all time worst managerial decisions but because he was replacing Hughes, he got away with it.

Your new bloke, will possibly do something similar ie: not what you want or expect.

Just making the point.

[dazby]

Keep him please. This man won us a trophy. We should have won at least one trophy this season, but he won us a trophy and that buys me a lot of leeway.

[s1ty m]

The owners have to decide if they are hitching their waggon to Mancini's horse, not just for a season but for the long road.

If they aren't willing to back him to the hilt, through thick & thin then they should get rid now imo. After yesterday, I no longer trust him to deliver quick success. I still trust his abilities to get it right eventually but he bottled it (again) & there's no guarantee he won't do the same if faced with the same situation. He is as much a 'project' as the club. He's not ready yet either in the Prem or in Europe.

We have to decide whether to keep him, mistakes and all or get a new bloke, who will also make mistakes.

As some have pointed out, it is becoming clear that a fair few of his signings have not worked out t the level required. We either allow him to try & remedy that or we let a new bloke come in & apply his thinking to it.

The problem with the second option is that, whilst you all think the new bloke will come in, get the best from Silva, sell Dzeko & Balotelli & bring in A+B, and everything is perfect, what actually happens in these circumstances could be more like;

New bloke arrives, sells Aguero, Lescott, builds side around Dzeko & Tevez, puts Silva on bench, insists on playing Kolarov & some shite Bolivian CB. Tevez asks for transfer at Christmas along with Silva.

Mancini: "He'll get the best out of Robinho, not like that Welsh knob" you said. He sold him.

Mancini got rid of Craig Bellamy. A few hotheads on here may have agreed but most City fans were mortified & rightly so, it was one of the all time worst managerial decisions but because he was replacing Hughes, he got away with it.

Your new bloke, will possibly do something similar ie: not what you want or expect.

Just making the point.

Agree about Bellamy. Paying for him to go to Cardiff was unbelievable. Letting him go to Liverpool for nothing was also unbelievable. Allowing Adebayor to go to Spurs and pay for half his obscene salary is, well, unbelievable.

[Ted Hughes]

That's the kind of shit managers do. We will see it again if Bob goes.

[Tokyo Blue]

Mancini got rid of Craig Bellamy. A few hotheads on here may have agreed but most City fans were mortified & rightly so, it was one of the all time worst managerial decisions but because he was replacing Hughes, he got away with it.

And Bellamy's been ok in the Championship and a bit part player for a mid-table side in the time since he left us. Not quite as bad a move as you are making out, I feel.

Yes, you can argue he won a cup, but so did the players who were brought in to replace him. Plus bellamy would not have won that cup without a fuckin dickhead fat bent cunt shitbag fucking twatlips ref giving an anfield penalty for fuck all.

[Grob]

Mancini (and the players) has made a mess of the last part of the season. Whether or not we make a turn around and win our last 6 games of the season - our drop in form has been remarkable. However, I fully believe that replacing Mancini would be a step back for us, at least looking over the coming 5 years. Mancini had us playing the best football in England and we were a pure joy to watch. He has made plenty of mistakes during the season and at points I think he's to stubborn to admit it and make corresponding changes. However, I'm sure he knows what's he's done wrong and I'm confident Mancini will up his act come next season. I truly believe he would get us playing at a more consistent level throughout next season.

The last six games of the season is key here though - they will clearly tell how Mancini get his act together, but more importantly - how the players responds to their manager´s guidance. If the team show true fighting spirit and grit come the last games of the season; Mancini is my man for the next season (seasons that should be).

Long term thinking is the most important thing here - and I think Mancini is a better bet than Mourinho/Guardiola and the other usual victims ppl drag up here.

Good points there pro keeping Mancini.

My overall view on Mancini is that he is a good manager but I rate him in a similar boat to Benitez. I think he is in the second tier of manager. I think theres enough out there that are better.

If we can get a manager in whose perceved as a better bet than Mancini, why shouldnt we go for it?

Mancini has made alot of mistakes this season and looking at the squad, if he is to stay, theres a fair proportion of them that could/should be out of the door. Adebayor, Tevez, Balotelli, Dzeko, Santa Cruz, Weiss, Pizarro, Hargreaves, both Johnsons, Kolo, Savic, Kolorov, Bridge, Boyata.

Maybe even Nasri, Milner, Barry and De jong could come into it.

My question is, is there someone out there who could mould the squad we have now, minus Balo of course, int a championship winning team based on the competition we have in the league?

I think yes. And with FFP that seems the most cost effective option to me aswell.

[Bluedj]

People saying mancini lost us the league, you are quick to forget he was the one who put us in a position to win it in the first place. Going for the title in the PL is something else to any oter title race, should we not give him the opportunity to learn from his first try? If we don't give people ONE chance to learn how is the club ever going to evolve?

actually I agree entirely

the only concern I have is that he isn't learning from his mistakes

Take the CL, Koralov was getting toasted in Naples, if RM thinks he's a better defender thany Clichie, he must be pissed. Up against good teams AK hasnt performed and has be found wanting, BUT RM still kept playing him......mad, totally mad