How will RM approach the Norwich game?

[brite blu sky]

i'd think twice about bringing ya ya back. He's too busy at the moment and is getting in the way of others, particularly dropping so deep to pick the ball up. Plus he's hopeless v pace defensively. I'd be inclined to give him a rest and keep the same team, maybe bringing him on if we go a goal down.Pushing up and then setting Aguero and Tevez loose in their box is the key. Their defenders are honest Joes. Move em around and goals will come.Stand about and they'll cope.Need a few goals cos Norwich have a goal or two in them.

From the presser, they are going to decide on his fitness tomorrow, which for me means he will not play.

Thought the same, the way he said it just seemed like fit or not he wasn't bothered as he wont play anyway.

[Ted Hughes]

I smell a distinct lack of confidence the team hasn't really got it's mojo back.

Also afraid to say it but it is Tevez that is going to make the difference, as he is one player who doesn't bother one bit whether the team is home or away. He will lift the team on his own with that attitude quite apart from the fact that playing deeper is exactly what the team has been missing in Silva and Nasri not quite being at it.

Which would have been dispelled by 5 mins more carnage v WBA midweek rather than taking off all the best players just when they were hitting a peak & finishing on a low with a half empty stadium rather than a high with everyone buzzing. Sometimes there is more to football than just sticking to the expected sensible routine.

This is exactly what I was talking about.

[Beefymcfc]

I smell a distinct lack of confidence the team hasn't really got it's mojo back.

Also afraid to say it but it is Tevez that is going to make the difference, as he is one player who doesn't bother one bit whether the team is home or away. He will lift the team on his own with that attitude quite apart from the fact that playing deeper is exactly what the team has been missing in Silva and Nasri not quite being at it.

Which would have been dispelled by 5 mins more carnage v WBA midweek rather than taking off all the best players just when they were hitting a peak & finishing on a low with a half empty stadium rather than a high with everyone buzzing. Sometimes there is more to football than just sticking to the expected sensible routine.

This is exactly what I was talking about.

Fucking hell Ted, I, and my friends, were in the same stadium and none of us were complaining about anything, especially the subs. If anything, the crowd were shit due to what was going on at the DW. It was very quiet in the 1st half, even after the goal and it was only in the 2nd half, once people had heard that Wigan were 2-0 up (yes, 2-0) that the party got started. After we'd sealed the game, everyone was more interested in the Wigan score, many with their head's in their phones or listening to the radio. And as usual, especially on a midweek game, the crowd started filtering off well before the whistle.

It was nothing to do with the changes, although it showed we'd sealed the win, this is what happens at most games.

[Sideshow Bob]

don't know how RM will set up and don't much care, TBH. i'm really looking foward to this one.

[brite blu sky]

I smell a distinct lack of confidence the team hasn't really got it's mojo back.

Also afraid to say it but it is Tevez that is going to make the difference, as he is one player who doesn't bother one bit whether the team is home or away. He will lift the team on his own with that attitude quite apart from the fact that playing deeper is exactly what the team has been missing in Silva and Nasri not quite being at it.

Which would have been dispelled by 5 mins more carnage v WBA midweek rather than taking off all the best players just when they were hitting a peak & finishing on a low with a half empty stadium rather than a high with everyone buzzing. Sometimes there is more to football than just sticking to the expected sensible routine.

This is exactly what I was talking about.

Dispelled for you you mean? and possibly you alone. Christ your not NDQP in disguise are you?

[Ted Hughes]

I smell a distinct lack of confidence the team hasn't really got it's mojo back.

Also afraid to say it but it is Tevez that is going to make the difference, as he is one player who doesn't bother one bit whether the team is home or away. He will lift the team on his own with that attitude quite apart from the fact that playing deeper is exactly what the team has been missing in Silva and Nasri not quite being at it.

Which would have been dispelled by 5 mins more carnage v WBA midweek rather than taking off all the best players just when they were hitting a peak & finishing on a low with a half empty stadium rather than a high with everyone buzzing. Sometimes there is more to football than just sticking to the expected sensible routine.

This is exactly what I was talking about.

Fucking hell Ted, I, and my friends, were in the same stadium and none of us were complaining about anything, especially the subs. If anything, the crowd were shit due to what was going on at the DW. It was very quiet in the 1st half, even after the goal and it was only in the 2nd half, once people had heard that Wigan were 2-0 up (yes, 2-0) that the party got started. After we'd sealed the game, everyone was more interested in the Wigan score, many with their head's in their phones or listening to the radio. And as usual, especially on a midweek game, the crowd started filtering off well before the whistle.

It was nothing to do with the changes, although it showed we'd sealed the win, this is what happens at most games.

Crowd was great until we effectively declared, especially in areas where there is usually not much atmosphere; the whole ground was buzzing. Then the atmosphere died completely when all the main stars of the game were taken off & most people were just waiting for it to end.

It is what happens at most games, but this wasn't 'most games' something special was starting to happen.

[bigblue]

Crowd was great until we effectively declared, especially in areas where there is usually not much atmosphere; the whole ground was buzzing. Then the atmosphere died completely when all the main stars of the game were taken off & most people were just waiting for it to end.

It is what happens at most games, but this wasn't 'most games' something special was starting to happen.

Sorry but the goal is to win the league not please the crowd. If Tevez and Silva have an extra spring in their step vs Norwich because of being rested an extra 25 mins, all the better.

Look at it this way - if Mancini didn't sub them out as quickly vs WBA and we fail to get a result vs Norwich (or even if Silva or Tevez look a bit tired), people would be slating Mancini left and right for not resting our key players when the game is won and we have a new game in 3 days.

You have many good points, but this is so petty and misses the main objective completely. We got a 4-0 win and our key players are fresher for the next game, enough with the moaning.

[Beefymcfc]

I smell a distinct lack of confidence the team hasn't really got it's mojo back.

Also afraid to say it but it is Tevez that is going to make the difference, as he is one player who doesn't bother one bit whether the team is home or away. He will lift the team on his own with that attitude quite apart from the fact that playing deeper is exactly what the team has been missing in Silva and Nasri not quite being at it.

Which would have been dispelled by 5 mins more carnage v WBA midweek rather than taking off all the best players just when they were hitting a peak & finishing on a low with a half empty stadium rather than a high with everyone buzzing. Sometimes there is more to football than just sticking to the expected sensible routine.

This is exactly what I was talking about.

Fucking hell Ted, I, and my friends, were in the same stadium and none of us were complaining about anything, especially the subs. If anything, the crowd were shit due to what was going on at the DW. It was very quiet in the 1st half, even after the goal and it was only in the 2nd half, once people had heard that Wigan were 2-0 up (yes, 2-0) that the party got started. After we'd sealed the game, everyone was more interested in the Wigan score, many with their head's in their phones or listening to the radio. And as usual, especially on a midweek game, the crowd started filtering off well before the whistle.

It was nothing to do with the changes, although it showed we'd sealed the win, this is what happens at most games.

Crowd was great until we effectively declared, especially in areas where there is usually not much atmosphere; the whole ground was buzzing. Then the atmosphere died completely when all the main stars of the game were taken off & most people were just waiting for it to end.

It is what happens at most games, but this wasn't 'most games' something special was starting to happen.

I disagree but I suppose you are right, just like when many were saying that we needed to rest players and that's why they are burnt out now. I suppose they'd be complaining if they completed the full 90 in a game that was already won, especially as there was only 2 days rest inbetween.

Honestly mate, I don't know how the manager (any manager for that case) can win with our fans. Damned if you do..................

[Ted Hughes]

Crowd was great until we effectively declared, especially in areas where there is usually not much atmosphere; the whole ground was buzzing. Then the atmosphere died completely when all the main stars of the game were taken off & most people were just waiting for it to end.

It is what happens at most games, but this wasn't 'most games' something special was starting to happen.

Sorry but the goal is to win the league not please the crowd. If Tevez and Silva have an extra spring in their step vs Norwich because of being rested an extra 25 mins, all the better.

Look at it this way - if Mancini didn't sub them out as quickly vs WBA and we fail to get a result vs Norwich (or even if Silva or Tevez look a bit tired), people would be slating Mancini left and right for not resting our key players when the game is won and we have a new game in 3 days.

You have many good points, but this is so petty and misses the main objective completely. We got a 4-0 win and our key players are fresher for the next game, enough with the moaning.

My main objective is to get a proper title challenge together both on the pitch & in the stands & the only time I've really felt that all season was just before Mancini started taking players off on Wed.

We have gone from cruise mode where half the crowd go home because we've won easily & declared, to panic, misery & general doom, to Wednesday where AT LONG LONG LAST the place started to feel as if the fans & team were getting together for a good old fashioned title run in. Silva was just strting to enjoy playing football again & the whole thing felt like something special was beginning to happen. Then a switch was pulled.

Then 5 mins later it was silence with people leaving.

There is more to football than a chessboard & a sports science computer. Sometimes you get a chance to create something special.

[Ted Hughes]

AND btw, Nasri was receiving treatment for what looked like a nasty knock, when Silva was taken off, so the whole idea it was somehow clever, is utter bullshit.

[bigblue]

We have gone from cruise mode where half the crowd go home because we've won easily & declared, to panic, misery & general doom, to Wednesday where AT LONG LONG LAST the place started to feel as if the fans & team were getting together for a good old fashioned title run in. Silva was just strting to enjoy playing football again & the whole thing felt like something special was beginning to happen. Then a switch was pulled.

I think this is a difference between a calm world class manager and a passionate fan. After a run of poor form, the passionate fan is overjoyed when the team starts to play well again and wants to grasp onto the renewed good fortunes with the fear that it might slip away.

The calm manager knows that the team always had this capability and it was just a matter of time before it showed itself again. And with that outlook, the calm manager does not get too caught up in the moment. He makes sure that the present fixture is safe while making a calculated decision to place our team in the best position for the upcoming fixtures.

That Nasri bit proves nothing by the way. Thank god you are not managing City

[Rag_hater]

They had a close up of Carlos in the first half and he was sweating and huffing a lot so Bobby taking him off as soon as he could seemed ok to me.

[Grob]

Same team as Wednesday unless Yaya is fit then swap him in for Nasri.

The Wednesday formula showed potential and was the most balanced we've looked for a while too, we must stick with it.

Ive an awful feeling we'll see the full backs rotated unnescessarily and Dzeko though.

Please Bob, fuck the rotation, and just play our best team.

The intangibles must be there too, passion, desire, character, controlled aggression. Rather than the team selection, thats the part im most worried about.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

However we start the game, be it playing well or back to our shitty away form, if we reach the 30 mins to go point and we're not in front, once again he needs to fuck the tactics off and chuck in the kitchen sink. Bring on as much firepower as we can get on the pitch & go for it.

If we'd done that at Arsenal, I would now have us as favourites for the title. Whatever happens before, 30 mins is enough for four or five goals if you,ve got the firepower to bring on, especially when the oppo is getting tired. You just have to have the belief that you can force the oppo back by sheer weight of attack. Rags have proved that can be done, year in year out & we have done it ourselves in the past few weeks.

fuckin aye...this is right.

once again, for the 2nd time in 3 seasons, his conservativism at the Emirates is acutely painful.

cheers

Third time Doomie.

[Beefymcfc]

AND btw, Nasri was receiving treatment for what looked like a nasty knock, when Silva was taken off, so the whole idea it was somehow clever, is utter bullshit.

As he was receiving treatment Mancini was holding up the substitution until he got the nod from the physio that he'd be good to go. I watched it unfold with my own peeper's as I was worried about that also.

I'll leave you now as you are beginning to sound like an angry and bitter man but I'm not sure why. We won a game 4-0 and all's you want to do is complain? Is it because you switched sides and deep down thought the race was won and you now feel you need to justify that stance?

Like I said, I feel I'm following you around the board so I will leave you and your dark cloud to it.

[kinkylola]

AND btw, Nasri was receiving treatment for what looked like a nasty knock, when Silva was taken off, so the whole idea it was somehow clever, is utter bullshit.

Congrats on becoming one of the most boring active posters. That was a whirlwind transformation.

[blues2win]

Something special's a bit over the top. We easily beat a weakened crap West Brom side at home. It hardly makes up for the dreadful collapse against Arsenal throughout the game ( we were crap in the first half and bloody lucky to be 0-0). It dorsn't make up either for all the shitty away performances since I don't know when. If we beat Newcastle away and it still matters I'll get a lot more excited and in spades if we beat the scum the week before.

[dick dastardley]

If he swaps kolorov for clichy and dzeko for CT or SA then mancini has learned fuck all. And back to the usual away form. I just hope we play to win from the off and show the same commitment as norwich.

[Ted Hughes]

AND btw, Nasri was receiving treatment for what looked like a nasty knock, when Silva was taken off, so the whole idea it was somehow clever, is utter bullshit.

Congrats on becoming one of the most boring active posters. That was a whirlwind transformation.

How can you have a whirlwind transformation into being boring ?

(I know: take your 3 best players off.)

Surely it would be more of a miserable slide though ?

Or as in your case, just start off dull & get worse ?

[Beefymcfc]

Honestly, who wants Carlos to start?