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Re: Derby lineup

Postby phips » Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:50 pm

Grob wrote:
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ashton287 wrote:Balo can fuck off and come on later on, don't give him the opportunity tonfuck us over.

Pretty sure if zabs starts they will get a penalty or he will just get skinned in open play and they will score. It has to be Richards and he has to stay on for the whole 90.

De gea is shit and tevez will fire a few shots at him which will unsettle his shaky hands aswell.


I agree.

Don't change that attacking quartet unless for some reason it stops working. Nasri, silva, tevez and aguero have all assisted and scored in the last 3 games.

I can't see any team living with them.

Richards for zabba is obvious and toure further foward is too. I'm pretty sure mancini won't start toure holding again because he's better off on the bench than there imo.


So we play the 4 attackers from the last 3 games and also push Toure up which gives us 5 attackers, and 1 DM and 4 defenders presumably.

Bit unbalanced maybe?

If its only NDJ/Barry and Yaya, Yaya will be pulled deep.
Bobby wont play without 2 DFM from the start.

So its either Yaya deep alongside NDJ/Barry or NDJ AND Barry in DFM and Yaya
pushed up, meaning we'd have to sacrifice Nasri.
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Re: Derby lineup

Postby brite blu sky » Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:32 pm

Grob wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
ashton287 wrote:Balo can fuck off and come on later on, don't give him the opportunity tonfuck us over.

Pretty sure if zabs starts they will get a penalty or he will just get skinned in open play and they will score. It has to be Richards and he has to stay on for the whole 90.

De gea is shit and tevez will fire a few shots at him which will unsettle his shaky hands aswell.


I agree.

Don't change that attacking quartet unless for some reason it stops working. Nasri, silva, tevez and aguero have all assisted and scored in the last 3 games.

I can't see any team living with them.

Richards for zabba is obvious and toure further foward is too. I'm pretty sure mancini won't start toure holding again because he's better off on the bench than there imo.


So we play the 4 attackers from the last 3 games and also push Toure up which gives us 5 attackers, and 1 DM and 4 defenders presumably.

Bit unbalanced maybe?


Personally I'd put Barry and Nige on to start and Yaya to come on as a set plan. Bob I dont think will do that and will drop Nige. While not a mistake, I'd say there are better ideas. He has started many times with Yaya and then pushed him up later on... er usually after bringing Nige on. So he may do that.
I think slur will go all out from the start and try to knock us off balance and try get ahead before we settle and start to dominate. I'd rather have Nige for that. If Barry was only gonna get 60mins he could be told to run his arse off, Then we get fresh Yaya to use as required, controlling them or flying at them.
I also think he will have to sub two of the front 4, as I think that the key to fucking the rags up is pressing their dm's, which means the front 4 will have to work hard. Tevez should be good for 90 now, so imo should Aguero. Nasri seems to tail off and lil David still seems a bit below fitness. So the last two off. Milner to run about like a chicken and AJ to bring another dimension. If Yaya is pushed up then we are still flooding the midfield and Milner can leg it back if they manage to escape.
In reality subs are gonna depend on how the game goes, I'm expecting us to muller them again, But City have never mullered a team ever when I have been expecting it, so I believe it will be a tight game with the rags playing well and City frustratingly a bit flat. So we may have to keep a tactical tight ship right to the whistle, so subs are crucial, Tevez stays on the fuclin pitch for 90 and balotelli stays watching.
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Re: Derby lineup

Postby Original Dub » Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:42 pm

Grob wrote:
So we play the 4 attackers from the last 3 games and also push Toure up which gives us 5 attackers, and 1 DM and 4 defenders presumably.

Bit unbalanced maybe?


Not neccessarily. Personally I'd start toure on the bench.

It's just that IF he starts, I don't think it should be in a holding role.

If bob's gonna do his usual and start with two holders, then toure should not be one of them imo.
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Re: Derby lineup

Postby Original Dub » Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:58 pm

When was the last time the rags faced a team with the quality of City? And you can obviously discount us having our captain taken for no reason. Not in europe or domestically.

They haven't got a fucking chance.
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Re: Derby lineup

Postby Swales4ever » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:16 am

brite blu sky wrote:Personally I'd put Barry and Nige on to start and Yaya to come on as a set plan. Bob I dont think will do that and will drop Nige. While not a mistake, I'd say there are better ideas. He has started many times with Yaya and then pushed him up later on... er usually after bringing Nige on. So he may do that.
I think slur will go all out from the start and try to knock us off balance and try get ahead before we settle and start to dominate. I'd rather have Nige for that. If Barry was only gonna get 60mins he could be told to run his arse off, Then we get fresh Yaya to use as required, controlling them or flying at them.
I also think he will have to sub two of the front 4, as I think that the key to fucking the rags up is pressing their dm's, which means the front 4 will have to work hard. Tevez should be good for 90 now, so imo should Aguero. Nasri seems to tail off and lil David still seems a bit below fitness. So the last two off. Milner to run about like a chicken and AJ to bring another dimension. If Yaya is pushed up then we are still flooding the midfield and Milner can leg it back if they manage to escape.
In reality subs are gonna depend on how the game goes, I'm expecting us to muller them again, But City have never mullered a team ever when I have been expecting it, so I believe it will be a tight game with the rags playing well and City frustratingly a bit flat. So we may have to keep a tactical tight ship right to the whistle, so subs are crucial, Tevez stays on the fuclin pitch for 90 and balotelli stays watching.


I like Your vision, particularly about the flanks. I too wondered about the Milner option which would ensure additional dynamicity when not in possession: then I turned it down, considering that Jimmy seems to run out of steam by recent; I'd certainly pick him if I was sure he'd be that kind of on form Milner who despatched that superb "pitch-stretching" assist in don't remember which game (my poor ol' neurons).
also on AJ I'd theoretically agree, but is a bit of a gamble in such a huge game: same as per Mario they are not finished articles who can impact the game too much unpredictably.
thus, without missing the point on Silva's form, I still consider the best way is to go for the most solid line-up, assuming Yaya pushed up from the start, as I don't trust him in the hold role nowadays, particularly combined with GazBaz.
I'd take AJ and Balo as set plan if the game is going to be tight as expected, swoping them for Dave and Sergio.

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Re: Derby lineup

Postby halnone » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:26 am

Original Dub wrote:When was the last time the rags faced a team with the quality of City? And you can obviously discount us having our captain taken for no reason. Not in europe or domestically.

They haven't got a fucking chance.

I really hope that is the case.
If we show up ready to play and tear them limb from fucking limb, our quality will show through. I can't see the likes of Welbeck or Johnny Fucking Evans winning a game against the likes of Aguero and Kompany.

All we have to do is show up to play our style from earlier in the season and give 100%. Both of which I think we can.


I'll still be fucking bricking it though.
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Re: Derby lineup

Postby Tokyo Blue » Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:29 am

Original Dub wrote:When was the last time the rags faced a team with the quality of City? And you can obviously discount us having our captain taken for no reason. Not in europe or domestically.

They haven't got a fucking chance.

They could have a man with a whistle. And that is all that worries me.

Grob is right, I think, in his team selection. We have got to win and can not afford to go all out attack from the start. Last fifteen-twenty minutes perhaps yes if necessary. Control, precision, hard graft and concentration will win this match.
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Re: Derby lineup

Postby Original Dub » Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:32 am

Tokyo Blue wrote:They could have a man with a whistle. And that is all that worries me.

Grob is right, I think, in his team selection. We have got to win and can not afford to go all out attack from the start. Last fifteen-twenty minutes perhaps yes if necessary. Control, precision, hard graft and concentration will win this match.


I think you're right, but it sti comes under two much quality for them.

There is a massive gulf between us and everything else they have faced all season. As you say, the man with the whistle is the only reason they are close to us and imo the only thing to fear on monday.
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Re: Derby lineup

Postby gillie » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:39 am

Original Dub wrote:
Tokyo Blue wrote:They could have a man with a whistle. And that is all that worries me.

Grob is right, I think, in his team selection. We have got to win and can not afford to go all out attack from the start. Last fifteen-twenty minutes perhaps yes if necessary. Control, precision, hard graft and concentration will win this match.


I think you're right, but it sti comes under two much quality for them.

There is a massive gulf between us and everything else they have faced all season. As you say, the man with the whistle is the only reason they are close to us and imo the only thing to fear on monday.

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Re: Derby lineup

Postby RodneyRodney » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:06 am

1. I want us to ktchen sink them right from the start . An early goal or two and they will collapse.
2. Nigel on from the start - he has been excellent recently
3. Any thoughts about how we should handle Owen if he appears ? - I think they'll use him as a sub.
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Re: Derby lineup

Postby RodneyRodney » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:11 am

We need to shut down Scholes and Rooney . If we can do that they have no chance
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Re: Derby lineup

Postby brite blu sky » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:14 am

Mancio4ever wrote:
brite blu sky wrote:Personally I'd put Barry and Nige on to start and Yaya to come on as a set plan. Bob I dont think will do that and will drop Nige. While not a mistake, I'd say there are better ideas. He has started many times with Yaya and then pushed him up later on... er usually after bringing Nige on. So he may do that.
I think slur will go all out from the start and try to knock us off balance and try get ahead before we settle and start to dominate. I'd rather have Nige for that. If Barry was only gonna get 60mins he could be told to run his arse off, Then we get fresh Yaya to use as required, controlling them or flying at them.
I also think he will have to sub two of the front 4, as I think that the key to fucking the rags up is pressing their dm's, which means the front 4 will have to work hard. Tevez should be good for 90 now, so imo should Aguero. Nasri seems to tail off and lil David still seems a bit below fitness. So the last two off. Milner to run about like a chicken and AJ to bring another dimension. If Yaya is pushed up then we are still flooding the midfield and Milner can leg it back if they manage to escape.
In reality subs are gonna depend on how the game goes, I'm expecting us to muller them again, But City have never mullered a team ever when I have been expecting it, so I believe it will be a tight game with the rags playing well and City frustratingly a bit flat. So we may have to keep a tactical tight ship right to the whistle, so subs are crucial, Tevez stays on the fuclin pitch for 90 and balotelli stays watching.


I like Your vision, particularly about the flanks. I too wondered about the Milner option which would ensure additional dynamicity when not in possession: then I turned it down, considering that Jimmy seems to run out of steam by recent; I'd certainly pick him if I was sure he'd be that kind of on form Milner who despatched that superb "pitch-stretching" assist in don't remember which game (my poor ol' neurons).
also on AJ I'd theoretically agree, but is a bit of a gamble in such a huge game: same as per Mario they are not finished articles who can impact the game too much unpredictably.
thus, without missing the point on Silva's form, I still consider the best way is to go for the most solid line-up, assuming Yaya pushed up from the start, as I don't trust him in the hold role nowadays, particularly combined with GazBaz.
I'd take AJ and Balo as set plan if the game is going to be tight as expected, swoping them for Dave and Sergio.


I wouldn't want Milner or AJ from the start Mancio. Maybe you missed the bits there saying for them to come on as subs to replace Silva and Nasri.
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Re: Derby lineup

Postby Swales4ever » Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:37 am

brite blu sky wrote:
Mancio4ever wrote:
brite blu sky wrote:Personally I'd put Barry and Nige on to start and Yaya to come on as a set plan. Bob I dont think will do that and will drop Nige. While not a mistake, I'd say there are better ideas. He has started many times with Yaya and then pushed him up later on... er usually after bringing Nige on. So he may do that.
I think slur will go all out from the start and try to knock us off balance and try get ahead before we settle and start to dominate. I'd rather have Nige for that. If Barry was only gonna get 60mins he could be told to run his arse off, Then we get fresh Yaya to use as required, controlling them or flying at them.
I also think he will have to sub two of the front 4, as I think that the key to fucking the rags up is pressing their dm's, which means the front 4 will have to work hard. Tevez should be good for 90 now, so imo should Aguero. Nasri seems to tail off and lil David still seems a bit below fitness. So the last two off. Milner to run about like a chicken and AJ to bring another dimension. If Yaya is pushed up then we are still flooding the midfield and Milner can leg it back if they manage to escape.
In reality subs are gonna depend on how the game goes, I'm expecting us to muller them again, But City have never mullered a team ever when I have been expecting it, so I believe it will be a tight game with the rags playing well and City frustratingly a bit flat. So we may have to keep a tactical tight ship right to the whistle, so subs are crucial, Tevez stays on the fuclin pitch for 90 and balotelli stays watching.


I like Your vision, particularly about the flanks. I too wondered about the Milner option which would ensure additional dynamicity when not in possession: then I turned it down, considering that Jimmy seems to run out of steam by recent; I'd certainly pick him if I was sure he'd be that kind of on form Milner who despatched that superb "pitch-stretching" assist in don't remember which game (my poor ol' neurons).
also on AJ I'd theoretically agree, but is a bit of a gamble in such a huge game: same as per Mario they are not finished articles who can impact the game too much unpredictably.
thus, without missing the point on Silva's form, I still consider the best way is to go for the most solid line-up, assuming Yaya pushed up from the start, as I don't trust him in the hold role nowadays, particularly combined with GazBaz.
I'd take AJ and Balo as set plan if the game is going to be tight as expected, swoping them for Dave and Sergio.


I wouldn't want Milner or AJ from the start Mancio. Maybe you missed the bits there saying for them to come on as subs to replace Silva and Nasri.


ops... sorry! was tired plus daft as usual... :-)
I normally pay much more attention to Your excellent analysis, bar unwillingly this time.

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