Breaking news re England Manager

[ashton287]

SSN comparing twitchy to cough ans saying that is why he didn't get the England job.

[Beefymcfc]

I wonder if the FA have made an agreement with Redknapp but balked at the compensation sum Spurs are asking for and have now turned to trifle face to either flush them out of give them the big FU?

Theres more to this than meets the eye

That's what I was thinking but Big Dave's come out and said Hodgson's the only one they have approached. I think they've looked at the whole picture and decided that Redknapp is not a viable option and personally I agree with them. They are at a point where they want to move the team on and not revert to the old guard which Redknapp inevitable, will.

It's started already, listening to TS and Darren Lewis is on from the media. He's saying that near enough every paper is running that this is the wrong move and that 'Arry should've been the choice. That's what riles me about this country, the media believe they are above everything and because 'Arry was their boy Hodgson will now have his cards marked. One slip and it'll be all about how Redknapp would've done better, forgetting how shit he's been since Xmas.

Funny though, TS have just read out a few text from listeners, all saying it's the wrong move yet the first caller on is a Brom fan saying he's gutted and that Hodgson will do well. They then go to faces in football on Twitter who are all in agreement that it's a good move and give them a little stick then return to a fan on the phone saying 'It's not the fans choice'. I wonder what their stance is?

[Ted Hughes]

I wonder if the FA have made an agreement with Redknapp but balked at the compensation sum Spurs are asking for and have now turned to trifle face to either flush them out of give them the big FU?

Theres more to this than meets the eye

That's what I was thinking but Big Dave's come out and said Hodgson's the only one they have approached. I think they've looked at the whole picture and decided that Redknapp is not a viable option and personally I agree with them. They are at a point where they want to move the team on and not revert to the old guard which Redknapp inevitable, will.

It's started already, listening to TS and Darren Lewis is on from the media. He's saying that near enough every paper is running that this is the wrong move and that 'Arry should've been the choice. That's what riles me about this country, the media believe they are above everything and because 'Arry was their boy Hodgson will now have his cards marked. One slip and it'll be all about how Redknapp would've done better, forgetting how shit he's been since Xmas.

Funny though, TS have just read out a few text from listeners, all saying it's the wrong move yet the first caller on is a Brom fan saying he's gutted and that Hodgson will do well. They then go to faces in football on Twitter who are all in agreement that it's a good move and give them a little stick then return to a fan on the phone saying 'It's not the fans choice'. I wonder what their stance is?

Tbh if they stick to their principles & continue to say Harry is their choice, including when Spurs get pushed back down to 6th next season & he gets fired, then I have more respect for them.

[dazby]

I don't give a flying about the pommy team but this strikes me as a good short to medium term appointment.

[Im_Spartacus]

Whatever way you spin it, he failed miserably at liverpool. Im not all that bothered by the argument that king kenny is failing too, because he seems out pf his depth all these years down the line. Woy was shockingly bad when he got a shot at the big time, although im sure all the ownership issues didnt help

I just think that as someone with very little personality, who is maybe quite passive on the touchline and fails to convey emotion in pressers, he is on a hiding to nothing regardless of his abilities or what he achieves. He will be murdered by hm press the minute anything goes wrong. I am fully expecting some sort of turnip headline within the next few months.

I actually feel sorry for him, as i like him and think he deserves a shot. But when all is said and done, there are much better managers the fa could have gone for overseas. He has really inly got the job by default because the fa want an englander and harry is too dodgy a choice for the sponsors

[Ted Hughes]

Whatever way you spin it, he failed miserably at liverpool. Im not all that bothered by the argument that king kenny is failing too, because he seems out pf his depth all these years down the line. Woy was shockingly bad when he got a shot at the big time, although im sure all the ownership issues didnt help

I just think that as someone with very little personality, who is maybe quite passive on the touchline and fails to convey emotion in pressers, he is on a hiding to nothing regardless of his abilities or what he achieves. He will be murdered by hm press the minute anything goes wrong. I am fully expecting some sort of turnip headline within the next few months.

I actually feel sorry for him, as i like him and think he deserves a shot. But when all is said and done, there are much better managers the fa could have gone for overseas. He has really inly got the job by default because the fa want an englander and harry is too dodgy a choice for the sponsors

Roy understands tactics & Harry doesn't.

Harry's tactics would be to try & bullshit Gerrard, Scholes, Lampard, Terry & Ferdinand to think & play like they are 20 years old. Then when it didn't work, he'd fuck off. Roy will try to get Lampard Gerrard, Terry & Ferdinand playing a tactical game, & when it doesn't work, he'll be fired but the new bloke can finally fuck Lampard Gerrard, Terry & Ferdinand off & we can start to rebuild.

[Swales4ever]

I wonder if the FA have made an agreement with Redknapp but balked at the compensation sum Spurs are asking for and have now turned to trifle face to either flush them out of give them the big FU?

Theres more to this than meets the eye

That's what I was thinking but Big Dave's come out and said Hodgson's the only one they have approached. I think they've looked at the whole picture and decided that Redknapp is not a viable option and personally I agree with them. They are at a point where they want to move the team on and not revert to the old guard which Redknapp inevitable, will.

as per Ted's, Woy understands football, Twitchy does not. In the wake of the Euro Finals probably the wisest choice. but I do agree thaey both are not the answer to move on the next generation. on the other thread I guessed Pardew if not Rodgers for that sake.

It's started already, listening to TS and Darren Lewis is on from the media. He's saying that near enough every paper is running that this is the wrong move and that 'Arry should've been the choice. That's what riles me about this country, the media believe they are above everything and because 'Arry was their boy Hodgson will now have his cards marked. One slip and it'll be all about how Redknapp would've done better, forgetting how shit he's been since Xmas.

try and live in a country where pretty the whole media is owned by an incompentent "fixer" with a huge egomania an extreme faith on populism. then all by sudden You find yrself praying for long life to Murduch... :-(

[I know that even an attempt comparison between the 2 countries is pretty insulting for those established at north, tho.]

Funny though, TS have just read out a few text from listeners, all saying it's the wrong move yet the first caller on is a Brom fan saying he's gutted and that Hodgson will do well. They then go to faces in football on Twitter who are all in agreement that it's a good move and give them a little stick then return to a fan on the phone saying 'It's not the fans choice'. I wonder what their stance is?

[Hazy2]

Harry has clocked the amount of retirements After the Euros, A lack of a 10% sell on clause and thought fuck that what am I some sort of MUG. Daniel Levy must be ill, thinking Harry is staying.

[Rag_hater]

Besides the media in the UK it seems to indicate that there are a fair few people in power that don't like twitchy.

[zuricity]

Roy understands tactics & Harry doesn't.

Harry's tactics would be to try & bullshit Gerrard, Scholes, Lampard, Terry & Ferdinand to think & play like they are 20 years old. Then when it didn't work, he'd fuck off. Roy will try to get Lampard Gerrard, Terry & Ferdinand playing a tactical game, & when it doesn't work, he'll be fired but the new bloke can finally fuck Lampard Gerrard, Terry & Ferdinand off & we can start to rebuild.

how can anyone possibly fail miserably in such a short space of time ? come off it the guy never stood a chance after the disaster that was the fat waiter and without the quick money from Boston , even king kenny would have gone by now

[Ted Hughes]

Roy understands tactics & Harry doesn't.

Harry's tactics would be to try & bullshit Gerrard, Scholes, Lampard, Terry & Ferdinand to think & play like they are 20 years old. Then when it didn't work, he'd fuck off. Roy will try to get Lampard Gerrard, Terry & Ferdinand playing a tactical game, & when it doesn't work, he'll be fired but the new bloke can finally fuck Lampard Gerrard, Terry & Ferdinand off & we can start to rebuild.

how can anyone possibly fail miserably in such a short space of time ? come off it the guy never stood a chance after the disaster that was the dat waiter and without the quick money from Boston , even king kenny would have gone by now

I haven't said anything about that at all so I don't know which 'it' you want me to come off.

[Bianchi on Ice]

Hodgson was merely working with what benitez left him, and that was very little...I have slated benitez in the past so I would defend Hodgson on that one. England are average, but have been below those standards for a while now...Hodgson will cut his cloth accordingly...thats what international managers do...they dont have time to turn shit into gold. the press think redknapp can turn shit into gold. he cant, not without any creative players. no one can. Hodgson will make England harder to beat and might just take some steps further than of late. That is all we should be expecting, realistically. Fuck the press, let them pick holes...in time no one will care what they write.

[colonel_muck]

must admit was surprised and shocked by this news as i was quite excited about redknapp getting the job given he has proven he can work with big name players and play exciting football (even though i cant fucking stand his happy-go-lucky media image). That said I've always been a fan of Roy and he really deserves it. Done well wherever he's gone, except those idiots down the m62 who have done far better with 'King Kenny'. I think everyone felt he had a rough time there because their players were shit from the benitez era and they used him to blame their incompetence. Plays decent football and knows the international game inside out. Very excited about it as the day has gone on. Congrats Roy.

[Goaters 103]

Summed up best by Henry Winter of The Telegraph today - Hodgson "a Broadsheet manager in a tabloid world"

[Ted Hughes]

Internationl managers don't have time to do much day to day coaching etc so it's an entirely different job. Keegan's cheerleading approach failed completely & Harry would have been the same.

[Swales4ever]

Hodgson was merely working with what benitez left him, and that was very little...I have slated benitez in the past so I would defend Hodgson on that one. England are average, but have been below those standards for a while now...Hodgson will cut his cloth accordingly...thats what international managers do...they dont have time to turn shit into gold. the press think redknapp can turn shit into gold. he cant, not without any creative players. no one can. Hodgson will make England harder to beat and might just take some steps further than of late. That is all we should be expecting, realistically. Fuck the press, let them pick holes...in time no one will care what they write.

Mate, to say England are averege is a bit rich, imo, if You'd pardon me.
particularly when in comparison to the current status of the remainder of continental opponents, apart from Spainiards.
only avarege dept is arguably the front row, where it's Shrek and very little more and it has to guess what kind of Shrek we shall see by that time.
England has finally found a world class keeper, has very decent defenders when set up properly (and here Hodgson takes great advantage fm his Italian experience) as well as good solutions to shuffle in the middle of the park along with some great young talents on the flanks, now raising to fit the international stage, imo.

England problem is and always will be the hugely demanding season they come from. as fans we do enjoy, but that on the other hand, prevent England to take the honours they deserve at international level.

[zuricity]

I haven't said anything about that at all so I don't know which 'it' you want me to come off.

it's the bleedin iphone. it was sparticus i was replying to!

[Bianchi on Ice]

Hodgson was merely working with what benitez left him, and that was very little...I have slated benitez in the past so I would defend Hodgson on that one. England are average, but have been below those standards for a while now...Hodgson will cut his cloth accordingly...thats what international managers do...they dont have time to turn shit into gold. the press think redknapp can turn shit into gold. he cant, not without any creative players. no one can. Hodgson will make England harder to beat and might just take some steps further than of late. That is all we should be expecting, realistically. Fuck the press, let them pick holes...in time no one will care what they write.

Mate, to say England are averege is a bit rich, imo, if You'd pardon me.
particularly when in comparison to the current status of the remainder of continental opponents, apart from Spainiards.
only avarege dept is arguably the front row, where it's Shrek and very little more and it has to guess what kind of Shrek we shall see by that time.
England has finally found a world class keeper, has very decent defenders when set up properly (and here Hodgson takes great advantage fm his Italian experience) as well as good solutions to shuffle in the middle of the park along with some great young talents on the flanks, now raising to fit the international stage, imo.

England problem is and always will be the hugely demanding season they come from. as fans we do enjoy, but that on the other hand, prevent England to take the honours they deserve at international level.

I can only comment on what Ive seen of the national side over many years, Mancio...we lack creative players, one a generation comes through it seems..we lack players with big match temperaments and enough players with technique good enough to fall back on...with Hodgson we may rise above average, we may not...but I'm only commenting on what are basic facts..at the highest level, England havent been there often enough for a footballing nation of its size.

[Grob]

Internationl managers don't have time to do much day to day coaching etc so it's an entirely different job. Keegan's cheerleading approach failed completely & Harry would have been the same.

Agreed, although I think Harry would be inspired by leading the England team and would get passion and commitment out of the players. Tactially yes, he's a bit of a 1 trick pony, but im not sure Englands 'best' players have the brain capacity for detailed tactics.

As much as it pains me to say, I think Redkanpp would get more out of the England team than Turkey Neck.

[Tokyo Blue]

I think Woy is a top bloke, with never a bad word for anyone and a very good manager. I sincerely hope he succeeds.

I also can't fucking stand Bagpuss so it is win-win for me.