Still not convinced

[david yearsley]

So all we need is the Sheik to find us a leader with over 20 years prem experience countless cups and countless titles. Shouldn`t be too difficult.

Sorry, but where did that come from??? Due to Hughes winnin trophys as a player? We all know that bein a great player means next to fook all when it comes to management.

Did Jose have all that that you have listed? no, infact, he didnt have any... It also didnt take Chelsea years and year to 'build' the side they had when they won the seaon twice in a row after being taken over and are now pullin away and lookin like the best side in the Prem. Yes, they had the foundations of a good side already, but we wasnt all too bad. Its the fact Jose had what it takes to turn a team into seriuos winners. I question whether Hughes has that in him.

'It takes time' I really question if it should take as long as it has taken to get the lads playin good consistant football.

TBF Chelski had won trophies and finished top 4 a couple of times before the "special one" got anywhere near the Bridge - we´re playing catch-up and trying to condense it into a season and a half

[mcfc1632]

So all we need is the Sheik to find us a leader with over 20 years prem experience countless cups and countless titles. Shouldn`t be too difficult.

Sorry, but where did that come from??? Due to Hughes winnin trophys as a player? We all know that bein a great player means next to fook all when it comes to management.

Did Jose have all that that you have listed? no, infact, he didnt have any... It also didnt take Chelsea years and year to 'build' the side they had when they won the seaon twice in a row after being taken over and are now pullin away and lookin like the best side in the Prem. Yes, they had the foundations of a good side already, but we wasnt all too bad. Its the fact Jose had what it takes to turn a team into seriuos winners. I question whether Hughes has that in him.

'It takes time' I really question if it should take as long as it has taken to get the lads playin good consistant football.

TBF Chelski had won trophies and finished top 4 a couple of times before the "special one" got anywhere near the Bridge - we´re playing catch-up and trying to condense it into a season and a half

I cannot be arsed looking it up - but if someone can or they know off the top of their heads - where were Chelsea in the 1st year after Jose took over after 10 games?? - Probably better than 4th - maybe with a couple more points - but they were a much stronger before he came along than we were before the start of the season

Anyway all this debate is totally nugatory and only serves to let some people with fixed views vent themselves. I do not know why people without those views try to discuss / debate with facts / rationale etc - it will not change these people's views - and if they want to bang on about it and take some satisfaction when something is not going well - that is fine - it is their right

Only 1 of 2 things are going to happen - and no amount of sensible / daft / totally fucking ridiculous posts on here will change it:

1/ Huhges will be in CL spot at end of season or close enough to retain the owner's confidence - he will then get a new contract for 5 years on a massive salary and the Hughes / hater / lovers / fence sitters all need to just get over it

2. He does not and the owner will make a change straight after the season closes for a manager they identify a little earlier and then everyone on here can have their fun debating the merits / not etc of that individual (lets just hope it is not Bryan Robson, Steve Bruce etc (just joking))

So all this rambling is just as effective as the stuff you read in Chinners bollocks from the press (a lot of it as well thought out as well - just a personal view) - perhaps there should be a dedicated thread to let people go and rant?

[Grob]

Ive always advocated giving Hughes a chance and will continue to do so as I think he deserves some support.

But he needs to start setting the team up with the intention of dominating possession against wallys like Birmingham.

He also needs a few of his players to buck up their ideas and a fully fit Robinho back in the team.

[Dazzacity]

BUMP (unfortunatley)

Thats me off the fence. Lets ge fooked of this loser while the season is reasonbly young. The guy isnt fit enough for the job and I can only see us finishing around where we did last season. And thats after spending hundreds of millions. Why are people still defending this guy??! how long are people prepared to wait and see with all this 'it takes time' bollox.

[edge275]

BUMP (unfortunatley)

Thats me off the fence. Lets ge fooked of this loser while the season is reasonbly young. The guy isnt fit enough for the job and I can only see us finishing around where we did last season. And thats after spending hundreds of millions. Why are people still defending this guy??! how long are people prepared to wait and see with all this 'it takes time' bollox.

Welcome to the Doom and Gloomers™, we are the best side.

If you see a hughes licker hit him over the head with a baseball bat to prove your allegiance.

[Dazzacity]

BUMP (unfortunatley)

Thats me off the fence. Lets ge fooked of this loser while the season is reasonbly young. The guy isnt fit enough for the job and I can only see us finishing around where we did last season. And thats after spending hundreds of millions. Why are people still defending this guy??! how long are people prepared to wait and see with all this 'it takes time' bollox.

Welcome to the Doom and Gloomers™, we are the best side.

If you see a hughes licker hit him over the head with a baseball bat to prove your allegiance.

I was a doom and gloomer before he spent so much money. I then thought Id give him another chance with a new side. He fooked it up again and Im back with the Gloomers. I gave him the chance and he couldnt convince me. He should be taken to the centre spot and shot. Or beheaded Talibani stylee.

[Spurge]

BUMP (unfortunatley)

Thats me off the fence. Lets ge fooked of this loser while the season is reasonbly young. The guy isnt fit enough for the job and I can only see us finishing around where we did last season. And thats after spending hundreds of millions. Why are people still defending this guy??! how long are people prepared to wait and see with all this 'it takes time' bollox.

Welcome to the Doom and Gloomers™, we are the best side.

If you see a hughes licker hit him over the head with a baseball bat to prove your allegiance.

I was a doom and gloomer before he spent so much money. I then thought Id give him another chance with a new side. He fooked it up again and Im back with the Gloomers. I gave him the chance and he couldnt convince me. He should be taken to the centre spot and shot. Or beheaded Talibani stylee.

So if we win at Liverpool you'll probably change your mind again, until someone like edge comes along and convinces you otherwise again. I hope you're not as confused/indecisive in all walks of life.

[edge275]

Ive always advocated giving Hughes a chance and will continue to do so as I think he deserves some support.

But he needs to start setting the team up with the intention of dominating possession against wallys like Birmingham.

He also needs a few of his players to buck up their ideas and a fully fit Robinho back in the team.

How much more does he need?

I give him 4/5 months last season and his performances were atrocious, that's when I was seeking his head on a platter.

Miraculously he survived last season and I reluctantly supported him in the summer with a new squad, his players, hundreds of millions spent etc etc as the owners wouldn't get rid of him. If we'd been playing well but were desperately unlucky this season I wouldn't have minded, but we've been playing like shite and he is quite obviously clueless.

[Dazzacity]

BUMP (unfortunatley)

Thats me off the fence. Lets ge fooked of this loser while the season is reasonbly young. The guy isnt fit enough for the job and I can only see us finishing around where we did last season. And thats after spending hundreds of millions. Why are people still defending this guy??! how long are people prepared to wait and see with all this 'it takes time' bollox.

Welcome to the Doom and Gloomers™, we are the best side.

If you see a hughes licker hit him over the head with a baseball bat to prove your allegiance.

I was a doom and gloomer before he spent so much money. I then thought Id give him another chance with a new side. He fooked it up again and Im back with the Gloomers. I gave him the chance and he couldnt convince me. He should be taken to the centre spot and shot. Or beheaded Talibani stylee.

So if we win at Liverpool you'll probably change your mind again, until someone like edge comes along and convinces you otherwise again. I hope you're not as confused/indecisive in all walks of life.

I think if you look above you will see I was off the fence before Edge posted. I think you are the confused one if I need to point that out to you. No need to get all bitchie just because I stood back, gave him a chance, and he once again has failed to meet my expectations.

[Chinners]

TBF Chelski had won trophies and finished top 4 a couple of times before the "special one" got anywhere near the Bridge - we´re playing catch-up and trying to condense it into a season and a half

Spot, spot on fella

[Dazzacity]

TBF Chelski had won trophies and finished top 4 a couple of times before the "special one" got anywhere near the Bridge - we´re playing catch-up and trying to condense it into a season and a half

Spot, spot on fella

I know it wont happen over night, but I expect us to be doin a hell of alot better than we are. I cant see any real improvement since the Sven days!! and thats after spending so much. No real progression whatsoever.

I honestly think we would see a huge improvement with a change of manager. Im sure all these pro Hughes fans would then admit that a change was a good thing and that Hughes was fit for th job.

[Crossie]

Hughes ideas and planning and attention to detail are top class. His man management is strict and I like it. He has bags of experience as a player at the top level, and solid but young experience as a manager.

He makes mistakes, including last season. But there was a lazy bastard culture in the squad and Hughes was fucking brave by picking on Elano, risking upsetting robbie, the squad and the fans.

Elano was a lazy fucker, Bellers came in last Jan and did what Hughes wanted, which was show everyone in the squad how much effort should be put into everything you do when you play football.

Tevez, DeJong, Toure, Bellers, Given are all hard working professionals, and Hughes works best with players like that.

If we had just played Scum, Scouse, Arse, Chelseas, Villa and Spurs, and lost 1 drawn 5 then we would be well happy. But the facts are we have drawn to 4 of the more shitty teams in the league (Fulham are good but we were at home), so if we can come out of this drawing streak without loosing, hopefully starting against Scouse, then things will soon come together again.

If we loose to Scouse and play and look utterly shit again, then things can go ugly quickly with all the strong willed players we have in our dressing room, we need the harmony to remain

[Dazzacity]

Hughes ideas and planning and attention to detail are top class. His man management is strict and I like it. He has bags of experience as a player at the top level, and solid but young experience as a manager.

He makes mistakes, including last season. But there was a lazy bastard culture in the squad and Hughes was fucking brave by picking on Elano, risking upsetting robbie, the squad and the fans.

Elano was a lazy fucker, Bellers came in last Jan and did what Hughes wanted, which was show everyone in the squad how much effort should be put into everything you do when you play football.

Tevez, DeJong, Toure, Bellers, Given are all hard working professionals, and Hughes works best with players like that.

If we had just played Scum, Scouse, Arse, Chelseas, Villa and Spurs, and lost 1 drawn 5 then we would be well happy. But the facts are we have drawn to 4 of the more shitty teams in the league (Fulham are good but we were at home), so if we can come out of this drawing streak without loosing, hopefully starting against Scouse, then things will soon come together again.

If we loose to Scouse and play and look utterly shit again, then things can go ugly quickly with all the strong willed players we have in our dressing room, we need the harmony to remain

I thought the Scunthorpe game would be the turning point and get us back to winning ways... I was wrong

[Spurge]

BUMP (unfortunatley)

Thats me off the fence. Lets ge fooked of this loser while the season is reasonbly young. The guy isnt fit enough for the job and I can only see us finishing around where we did last season. And thats after spending hundreds of millions. Why are people still defending this guy??! how long are people prepared to wait and see with all this 'it takes time' bollox.

Welcome to the Doom and Gloomers™, we are the best side.

If you see a hughes licker hit him over the head with a baseball bat to prove your allegiance.

I was a doom and gloomer before he spent so much money. I then thought Id give him another chance with a new side. He fooked it up again and Im back with the Gloomers. I gave him the chance and he couldnt convince me. He should be taken to the centre spot and shot. Or beheaded Talibani stylee.

So if we win at Liverpool you'll probably change your mind again, until someone like edge comes along and convinces you otherwise again. I hope you're not as confused/indecisive in all walks of life.

I think if you look above you will see I was off the fence before Edge posted. I think you are the confused one if I need to point that out to you. No need to get all bitchie just because I stood back, gave him a chance, and he once again has failed to meet my expectations.

You were a doomer and gloomer until he flashed the cash, at which point you were ok with Hughes again, then just a handful of games later you are a doomer and gloomer again. It sounds to me like you change your mind every 5 mins where City are concerned I'm afraid, I didn't mean to upset you and sorry if I came across as 'bitchie' (never been labelled as bitchie before, makes me feel truly 'down with the kids')

I've got to say I love your closing line about how you stood back, gave him a chance but that he has failed to meet your expectations -are you Sheik Mansoor by any chance?

I think City will always have a tendency to press the self destruct button no matter what the level of funding or who is in charge, it's just how it is. I've learnt to accept it a bit more easily over time (35 years a blue), I don't like it and would change it tomorrow if I could but have had to learn it is the city way.

[Vantage]

I think City will always have a tendency to press the self destruct button no matter what the level of funding or who is in charge, it's just how it is. I've learnt to accept it a bit more easily over time (35 years a blue), I don't like it and would change it tomorrow if I could but have had to learn it is the city way.

What he said

Every other team in the league could be wiped out in a meteorite attack and City would still just scrape into the last Europa League spot, on the last day, due to a missed penalty, in another match.

[Dazzacity]

I was a doom and gloomer before he spent so much money. I then thought Id give him another chance with a new side. He fooked it up again and Im back with the Gloomers. I gave him the chance and he couldnt convince me. He should be taken to the centre spot and shot. Or beheaded Talibani stylee.

So if we win at Liverpool you'll probably change your mind again, until someone like edge comes along and convinces you otherwise again. I hope you're not as confused/indecisive in all walks of life.

I think if you look above you will see I was off the fence before Edge posted. I think you are the confused one if I need to point that out to you. No need to get all bitchie just because I stood back, gave him a chance, and he once again has failed to meet my expectations.

You were a doomer and gloomer until he flashed the cash, at which point you were ok with Hughes again, then just a handful of games later you are a doomer and gloomer again. It sounds to me like you change your mind every 5 mins where City are concerned I'm afraid, I didn't mean to upset you and sorry if I came across as 'bitchie' (never been labelled as bitchie before, makes me feel truly 'down with the kids')

I've got to say I love your closing line about how you stood back, gave him a chance but that he has failed to meet your expectations -are you Sheik Mansoor by any chance?

I think City will always have a tendency to press the self destruct button no matter what the level of funding or who is in charge, it's just how it is. I've learnt to accept it a bit more easily over time (35 years a blue), I don't like it and would change it tomorrow if I could but have had to learn it is the city way.

No. It was the case of me not being happy with Hughes last season. He brought in lots of new faces so I thought the best thing to do would be to give him a chance and see if he can really change things with all the players he has at hand, something he kept moanin about all last season. So yeah, I stood back and gave him the chance to impress me, he hasnt done this and now Im back with the gloomers. Sorry that is so hard for you to accept and it does make me laugh how you are tryin to paint a picture of my whole life over the matter lol.

I wish I was Sheik Manoor, I would have given Hughes the bullet long ago.

[Moonchesteri]

One more game passed by and

still not convinced.

[Dazzacity]

One more game passed by and

still not convinced.

I think it will take 10 really good games in a row to start convincing me again. Or to just get me back on that fence. Cant see it happening.

[mcfc1632]

Ive always advocated giving Hughes a chance and will continue to do so as I think he deserves some support.

But he needs to start setting the team up with the intention of dominating possession against wallys like Birmingham.

He also needs a few of his players to buck up their ideas and a fully fit Robinho back in the team.

How much more does he need?

I give him 4/5 months last season and his performances were atrocious, that's when I was seeking his head on a platter.

Miraculously he survived last season and I reluctantly supported him in the summer with a new squad, his players, hundreds of millions spent etc etc as the owners wouldn't get rid of him. If we'd been playing well but were desperately unlucky this season I wouldn't have minded, but we've been playing like shite and he is quite obviously clueless.

Do you know in a strange way that has just made my day - long day / flight to go on holiday - missus having a moan along the lines of why is getting on the net about CITY always the first thing you do!!!! - as she is unpackng alone (the 2nd will be to find a bar still open)

And there is a quote from Edge recording how he has been for a period a Hughes supporter - genuinely - that must be classed as the smallest window of opportunity in history that Hughes missed

[edge275]

Ive always advocated giving Hughes a chance and will continue to do so as I think he deserves some support.

But he needs to start setting the team up with the intention of dominating possession against wallys like Birmingham.

He also needs a few of his players to buck up their ideas and a fully fit Robinho back in the team.

How much more does he need?

I give him 4/5 months last season and his performances were atrocious, that's when I was seeking his head on a platter.

Miraculously he survived last season and I reluctantly supported him in the summer with a new squad, his players, hundreds of millions spent etc etc as the owners wouldn't get rid of him. If we'd been playing well but were desperately unlucky this season I wouldn't have minded, but we've been playing like shite and he is quite obviously clueless.

Do you know in a strange way that has just made my day - long day / flight to go on holiday - missus having a moan along the lines of why is getting on the net about CITY always the first thing you do!!!! - as she is unpackng alone (the 2nd will be to find a bar still open)

And there is a quote from Edge recording how he has been for a period a Hughes supporter - genuinely - that must be classed as the smallest window of opportunity in history that Hughes missed

How could I not? He was just given hundreds of millions to spend so it was out the question that he'd be gone. If it was up to me I'd have sacked him way before that.

His signings as a whole have been good. I had no choice but to support him and see he would buck his ideas up.

He hasn't as I expected.

It's like my daughter is going out with a right cunt but is also walking down the aisle. Reluctant support.