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Re: Blackburn: When foreign owners go wrong

Postby Im_Spartacus » Wed May 09, 2012 1:52 pm

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Im_Spartacus wrote:Does anyone have a link to the story about how Steve Keen came to be in the job, lots of murky allegations about Venkys being the legitimate front for a criminal underworld investment by gangsters up in Glasgow.

It was all very conspiratorial, but it made a lot of sense, and week by week as the story unfolds it is looking closer to reality.

Some of the Bryan Robson scandal from last year also fitted into this story about how people who should have no connection to football are managing to inflitrate the game through perfectly legitimate fronts like venkys


What on earth would Glasgow gangsters want with Blackburn Rovers? The mind boggles... That said, it is odd that Venky's are disintrested as a £43m investment is pretty big for them, especially using a debt facility! The entire group of companies has capitalisation of only £34m and has annual revenue streams around the £90m mark.


Did you see the Panorama with Robson in. Cant remember the detail of it, but basically there are huge profits to be made once in the premier league from asset stripping, and even in the event of relegation because of the parachute payments.

Like I said, its a bit fanciful but it makes a lot of sense when you look at what has transpired, especially as it would appear that the investors already have their money back via a refinancing deal.

Steve KEAN (Minor 2nd team coach) is connected to a number of pretty serious Glasgow criminals who had a vast amount of money which required laundering. (20-30million)

As an employee of the club KEAN was aware that ROVERS had been for sale for quite some time with very little serious interest from anyone, he knew the price and the money which would be required to purchase it. He approached his Management Company KETARO (owned by ANDERSON) and put to him a business plan for the purchase of the club, this plan would give ANDERSON unofficial control of the club and enable him to 'legally' perform the sort of transaction with existing and future players on his books that got West Ham into trouble with the TEVEZ / MASSCARNO saga. (the buying and selling of players being the only way to make money from a Premier League club)

The consortium that KEAN suggested involved himself (representing the the gangster money) being a shareholder and part owner in the little scheme, KENTRO unable to purchase a Premier League club to to league conflict rules, scouted around emerging markets (India / China / Brazil) for a company to come in as the official new 'owners' capable of satisfying the fit and proper test laid down by the league. VENKYS loved the idea as they were keen to attack the European market and expand beyond India. The cost to VENKYS for taking part in the venture was half the purchase price of 43million.

(This 20 million was set aside anyway for marketing costs in breaking into the European market so net coast to VENKYS being NIL) The remainder of the cost was met by ANDERSON and a number of others in his syndicate (including KEAN) The scheme was sold to all involve as being 'win win' as the purchase price was assured of being returned to all members of the syndicate by TV money and in worst case relegation parachute payment which totaled coincidentally approx 43 million)

KEAN had one condition for his involvement, the removal of BIG SAM and his promotion to Club Manager. The removal of the established management infrastructure was essential in helping the group keep the deal secret, hence JOHN W and the rest were thanked for their services and shown the door. The recent mortgage in Aug 2011 for 43million is assured against the TV money for this year and any subsequent parachute payment from relegation whether that come this year or in the future. This money has been returned to all members of the syndicate to cover their initial stake (hence the secrecy), thus any money made from here on in by way of transfers, TV money, sale of the club being total profit to the group.

The Indians are basically passengers on this train and as now they have their money back they are totally uninterested in the future of the club, for them it remains what it always has been, a marketing tool. ANDERSON is keen to continue to use the club as a feeder for his younger less established players, he makes money by legitamatly charging massively inflated agent fees for all players coming in and out, and in the event of a player making a big breakthrough gains millions for the syndicate in the sell on fee. KEAN..well he's just living the dream, he would never have made a Premier League manager as long as he lived, the best he could aspire to was being someones No 2 and that dream was 5-10years away.

The new deal recently signed by KEAN is in recognition and reward from all concerned as the others have all done very well out of the deal to date (he obviously had to be rewarded as well) He is the Manager and he's going nowhere, not because he's un-sackable but because he's delivered what he said and not withstanding HE OWNS PART OF THE CLUB. (albeit via his gangster friends in Glasgow) All of his little trips to INDIA are not about him answering to the INDIANS is about him telling them what to do, when to speak and what to say, all stuff that needs to be said in person at risk of emails or phone calls being recorded. The whole thing would take a financial investigator years to uncover and is more or less impossible to trace as the paper trail all runs though VENKYS in INDIA.

They have the club pretty much sawn up. The recent interest from the Middle East is of no interest to the syndicate as they only stand to gain a little over what they paid, the rewards from keeping the club are much more to them than that..If this deal ever came out..people will be going to jail..so don't expect it to anytime soon..Oh what fun to be a Rovers fan.
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Re: Blackburn: When foreign owners go wrong

Postby Patrick » Wed May 09, 2012 2:04 pm

what a load of bollox

you may request a meeting - you might even give an agenda, the rest is a negotiation.

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Re: Blackburn: When foreign owners go wrong

Postby ant london » Wed May 09, 2012 2:09 pm

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Re: Blackburn: When foreign owners go wrong

Postby Im_Spartacus » Wed May 09, 2012 2:20 pm

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Re: Blackburn: When foreign owners go wrong

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed May 09, 2012 3:12 pm

Hmm.

So go back a few years. Frank takes over City;

Anderson subsequently came to further attention for his influence at first Manchester City F.C. and then Blackburn Rovers. At Manchester City, between £5 million and £7 million was reported to have been paid in commission to Anderson as part of the recruitment of eight new players in the weeks following the takeover of the club by Thaksin Shinawatra in May 2007. Anderson advised Shinawatra on the takeover, introducing him to Keith Harris (whose firm, Seymour Pierce, handled the deal) and recommending as manager Sven-Göran Eriksson, before his influence waned as the new owners balked at such payments and other figures –notable Kia Joorabchian and Pini Zahavi– became involved. Anderson said: "There is no one else in the world who could have delivered what I did in three weeks. It was my idea to open it up to other agents, and whatever I was paid –and it wasn't as much as City say– they've had it back in spades."

So they left Sven in limbo then Kia gets involved Sven gets fired, he appoints his man Hughes who finds, when he arrives, that we have agreed to pay £18 mil to some Russians for Jo & people are going round offering our players, such as Stephen Ireland, for sale (which he refuses to sanction) & that his fullback (Corluka) has been sold to one Harry Redknapp, the same Harry Redknapp who sold us Benjani amongst stinky circumstances in Jan.

Then when the Sheikh comes in, Kia & Pinissy Harvey take over from Anderson. Tbf to the fucking snake, he may have done us a favour by ousting Anderson from that position.

The whole business though, especially the Jo bit, stinks of the same thing. And who benefits from the 1st young Blackburn player to leave ? The (Scottish) father of another dodgy agent who happens to manage a club nearby.

If it smells like a fish..
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Re: Blackburn: When foreign owners go wrong

Postby Dameerto » Wed May 09, 2012 4:16 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:Hmm.

So go back a few years. Frank takes over City;

Anderson subsequently came to further attention for his influence at first Manchester City F.C. and then Blackburn Rovers. At Manchester City, between £5 million and £7 million was reported to have been paid in commission to Anderson as part of the recruitment of eight new players in the weeks following the takeover of the club by Thaksin Shinawatra in May 2007. Anderson advised Shinawatra on the takeover, introducing him to Keith Harris (whose firm, Seymour Pierce, handled the deal) and recommending as manager Sven-Göran Eriksson, before his influence waned as the new owners balked at such payments and other figures –notable Kia Joorabchian and Pini Zahavi– became involved. Anderson said: "There is no one else in the world who could have delivered what I did in three weeks. It was my idea to open it up to other agents, and whatever I was paid –and it wasn't as much as City say– they've had it back in spades."

So they left Sven in limbo then Kia gets involved Sven gets fired, he appoints his man Hughes who finds, when he arrives, that we have agreed to pay £18 mil to some Russians for Jo & people are going round offering our players, such as Stephen Ireland, for sale (which he refuses to sanction) & that his fullback (Corluka) has been sold to one Harry Redknapp, the same Harry Redknapp who sold us Benjani amongst stinky circumstances in Jan.

Then when the Sheikh comes in, Kia & Pinissy Harvey take over from Anderson. Tbf to the fucking snake, he may have done us a favour by ousting Anderson from that position.

The whole business though, especially the Jo bit, stinks of the same thing. And who benefits from the 1st young Blackburn player to leave ? The (Scottish) father of another dodgy agent who happens to manage a club nearby.

If it smells like a fish..


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Re: Blackburn: When foreign owners go wrong

Postby Ted Hughes » Wed May 09, 2012 4:21 pm

Dameerto wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:Hmm.

So go back a few years. Frank takes over City;

Anderson subsequently came to further attention for his influence at first Manchester City F.C. and then Blackburn Rovers. At Manchester City, between £5 million and £7 million was reported to have been paid in commission to Anderson as part of the recruitment of eight new players in the weeks following the takeover of the club by Thaksin Shinawatra in May 2007. Anderson advised Shinawatra on the takeover, introducing him to Keith Harris (whose firm, Seymour Pierce, handled the deal) and recommending as manager Sven-Göran Eriksson, before his influence waned as the new owners balked at such payments and other figures –notable Kia Joorabchian and Pini Zahavi– became involved. Anderson said: "There is no one else in the world who could have delivered what I did in three weeks. It was my idea to open it up to other agents, and whatever I was paid –and it wasn't as much as City say– they've had it back in spades."

So they left Sven in limbo then Kia gets involved Sven gets fired, he appoints his man Hughes who finds, when he arrives, that we have agreed to pay £18 mil to some Russians for Jo & people are going round offering our players, such as Stephen Ireland, for sale (which he refuses to sanction) & that his fullback (Corluka) has been sold to one Harry Redknapp, the same Harry Redknapp who sold us Benjani amongst stinky circumstances in Jan.

Then when the Sheikh comes in, Kia & Pinissy Harvey take over from Anderson. Tbf to the fucking snake, he may have done us a favour by ousting Anderson from that position.

The whole business though, especially the Jo bit, stinks of the same thing. And who benefits from the 1st young Blackburn player to leave ? The (Scottish) father of another dodgy agent who happens to manage a club nearby.

If it smells like a fish..


Don't forget how much we paid Blackburn for Santa - I got laughed at when I said he might have been doing his old club a favour.



I still don't understand how that got through the medical department. I can understand if it was a short term thing but he seems to have had a long term injury. There's insurance & everything else to consider. I wonder who signed it off ?
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Re: Blackburn: When foreign owners go wrong

Postby Im_Spartacus » Wed May 09, 2012 4:50 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:I still don't understand how that got through the medical department. I can understand if it was a short term thing but he seems to have had a long term injury. There's insurance & everything else to consider. I wonder who signed it off ?


Its all a bit murky isn't it.

However Blackburn were under the original ownership back then in 2009, and we were well rid of frank, so it seems odd that we would have been involved in any way, shape or form in anything which wasn't above board.

What bemuses me is why City never disclosed the fee paid, because I just cannot comprehend that it could have been anywhere close to the reported figure, even with add ons.
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Re: Blackburn: When foreign owners go wrong

Postby Blue_Manc » Wed May 09, 2012 7:02 pm

Still trying to figure out how that chicken was allowed into Ewood Park
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Re: Blackburn: When foreign owners go wrong

Postby patrickblue » Wed May 09, 2012 10:00 pm

Been confirmed the letter is genuine. Paul Hunt has been sacked.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18005433
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Re: Blackburn: When foreign owners go wrong

Postby Im_Spartacus » Wed May 09, 2012 10:35 pm

patrickblue wrote:Been confirmed the letter is genuine. Paul Hunt has been sacked.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18005433


I don't get this - the letter has been in the public domain for a while, I saw it months ago.

Its very fucking fishy all this....you have to wonder what the FA are doing about the allegations, surely they can't just ignore it - or is it the football league's problem now?
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Re: Blackburn: When foreign owners go wrong

Postby john68 » Thu May 10, 2012 3:27 am

Heard a statement by Scudamore earlier and the FA seem to be typically ignoring the issue. Not ad verbatum but along the lines of ;

The FA have no responsibility for the way in which owners of clubs run them. It is their business. We should remember that even if all the clubs were run well, 3 teams would still have to be relegated. The FA knew more than he could publicly mention about Blackburn's situation and could say that they were in no danger of going bump.

I suppose that Scudamore and the FA can't be seen to be interfering with what the Venkys do with their own business as long as they do nothing wrong. Apart from screwing Rovers up, they aren't accused of any wrongdoing.
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Re: Blackburn: When foreign owners go wrong

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu May 10, 2012 4:24 am

LOL @ sacking someone who has made genuine effort to keep up and afloat and sticking with Kean. Just LOL.
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Re: Blackburn: When foreign owners go wrong

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Thu May 10, 2012 5:37 am

Steve Kean is the most clueless cunt I've seen in management.

That's some stiff competition he's beating.
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Re: Blackburn: When foreign owners go wrong

Postby john68 » Thu May 10, 2012 5:40 am

Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Steve Kean is the most clueless cunt I've seen in management.

That's some stiff competition he's beating.


Which reminds me, How's your ladies team doing?
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Re: Blackburn: When foreign owners go wrong

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu May 10, 2012 5:43 am

john68 wrote:
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Steve Kean is the most clueless cunt I've seen in management.

That's some stiff competition he's beating.


Which reminds me, How's your ladies team doing?


Snigger!
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Re: Blackburn: When foreign owners go wrong

Postby dazby » Thu May 10, 2012 6:45 am

He's got a bun in the oven so I'd say he's going very well.
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Re: Blackburn: When foreign owners go wrong

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Thu May 10, 2012 7:00 am

john68 wrote:
Which reminds me, How's your ladies team doing?


6th with a game in hand and the bottom half all still to play. I'm aiming for top 4, but we have moved up a division.

My lads (u13) are top and undefeated. I genuinely think the league is on for them.
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Re: Blackburn: When foreign owners go wrong

Postby bigblue » Tue May 15, 2012 6:22 am

what a fucking scumbag:

http://brfcactiongroup.co.uk/steve-kean ... o-footage/

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Re: Blackburn: When foreign owners go wrong

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Tue May 15, 2012 6:35 am

dazby wrote:He's got a bun in the oven so I'd say he's going very well.


LULZ!

I think fair few of these women team coaches can't behave themselves.

Congrats Lee.
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