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Re: The Decisions that cost man utd the title

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat May 12, 2012 10:31 am

The title should be changed to 'The Decisions that kept Man Utd in the title race'. That story would be more apt.
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Re: The Decisions that cost man utd the title

Postby craigmcfc » Sat May 12, 2012 10:41 am

Wow, really? Is that how low papers are now stooping? Laugh out loud pathetic
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Re: The Decisions that cost man utd the title

Postby patrickblue » Sat May 12, 2012 10:56 am

Dpn't seem to have been pulled.

Here's the text, can't cut and paste the red tinted amended table. Bitter bastard


Revealed: the decisions that cost Manchester United the title and handed the Premier League to City
An exclusive study by Tim Long has identified the matches in which Manchester United and City were the victims or beneficiaries of refereeing errors that had a material effect on the scoreline and, ultimately, the fate of the Premier League title.
Revealed: the decisions that cost United the title

More than 200 hours were spent studying 674 decisions in all 370 games in the Premier League this season, the complete impact of which can be viewed here. Adjusted for corrected decisions, the title, currently in Manchester City's hands, would already have been won by United (scroll to the foot of this article for the adjusted table and details on the study's methodology). And here's where it was won and lost....

Manchester United 3 Chelsea 1. Adjusted score 1-1

Both Chris Smalling and Nani score goals that on review should have been disallowed for offside as United see off one of their early season title challengers at Old Trafford.

United get 2 more points than they should


Stoke City 1 Manchester United 1. Adjusted score 1-2

Jonathan Woodgate sees a foul on Javier Hernandez in the Stoke penalty area go unpunished. Working on the assumption that all awarded penalties are converted, United would have won the game rather than dropping points at the Britannia Stadium.

United denied 2 points they should have had



Manchester United 1 Newcastle United 1. Adjusted score 1-0.

Rio Ferdinand is deemed to have fouled Hatem Ben Arfa, presenting Demba Ba with the simple task of scoring from the penalty spot, thus taking a point from Old Trafford. Replays show that Ferdinand took the ball, though brought down the Newcastle player with a robust tackle as well.

United denied 2 points they should have had



Manchester United 2 Blackburn 3. Adjusted score 3-3

Patrice Evra goes down under a challenge from Radosav Petrovic in the Blackburn box. Nothing given at the time but United probably should have had a penalty, and the chance to salvage a draw from a game that damaged their title bid and kept Steve Kean in a job.

United denied 1 point they should have had



Chelsea 3 Manchester United 3. Adjusted score 3-4

Ashley Young doesn't always get penalty awards. A foul by Jose Bosingwa on the United winger waved away in a match when United came back from 3-0 down thanks to two penalties converted by Wayne Rooney. This study assumes he would have completed the hat-trick.

United denied 2 points they should have had



Manchester United 1 Fulham 0. Adjusted score 1-1

With Danny Murphy in full flight heading towards the United goal, Michael Carrick tripped the Fulham midfielder. A penalty to everyone in the ground bar the referee as Old Trafford held its collective breath. It wasn't given, but should have been.

United get 2 more points than they should



Wigan 1 Manchester United 0. Adjusted score 1-2

An incredible display by Wigan from which they deserved the three points. But should they have had them? Danny Welbeck was unlucky not to be given a spot kick when felled in the box and Maynor Figueroa handled a cross but got away with it.

United denied 3 points they should have had

TOTAL Decisions cost United 6 points over the season

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Chelsea 2 Manchester City 1. Adjusted score 2-2

David Silva was given nothing when Jose Bosingwa looked to have brought him down for a penalty at Stamford Bridge, on a night when City lost their unbeaten record in the lead. Had the referee given the spot kick, as replays suggest he should have, that run would not have come to an end.

City denied 1 point they should have had



Sunderland 1 Manchester City 0. Adjusted score 0-0

Ji Dong-won completed an incredible smash and grab win for Sunderland in the third minute of stoppage time. It was a classic counter attack from Martin O'Neill's side. It was also offside.

City denied 1 point they should have had



Everton 1 Manchester City 0. Adjusted score 1-1

Another rare defeat for City at the hands of another tactically astute manager. David Moyes's best laid plans, however, may have come to less had the referee blown for a foul on Joleon Lescott by Tim Howard in front of the American's goal.

City denied 1 point they should have had



Stoke City 1 Manchester City 1. Adjusted score 2-1

A typically combative performance from Stoke, graced by Peter Crouch's wonder strike, saw them comfortably hold Roberto Mancini's side. The point could, or should, have been three, after Gareth Barry escaped with a foul on Glenn Whelan that would have given the home side a penalty.

City get 1 more point than they should have

TOTAL Decisions cost City 2 points over the season

The final effect on the race for the Premier League title is that United would, rather than being level on points with City going in to the last game, be four points clear and with the title already won, regardless of the results of their game against Sunderland and City's meeting with QPR.

How the survey worked

Each replay was watched up to six times in slow motion/super-slow motion.

For penalty incidents, separate viewings were used to look for potential contact at the feet, ankles, knees, and upper-body areas.

If a penalty was judged to be 'missed’ it was assumed the kick would have been converted.

A conscious effort to side with the referee’s decision was made where possible.

Tim Long is a sports broadcaster and writer who has passed the basic referee course. www.thesportscaster.net


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Manchester United have cause for complaint as unique survey highlights Premier League errors
Manchester United would already be celebrating retaining their Premier League title, rather than preparing to surrender it to Manchester City, if every key refereeing decision had been made correctly this season, a study has shown.
Manchester United have cause for complaint as unique survey highlights Premier League errors

By Tim Long

9:47AM BST 11 May 2012

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Manchester City will win their first title for 44 years with victory against Queens Park Rangers at the Etihad Stadium on Sunday but thorough analysis of every big decision made by officials has revealed that Manchester United should be four points clear and already crowned as champions.

More than 200 hours has been spent analysing 674 decisions from all 370 games played this season including disallowed goals, penalty incidents and sendings-off.

Each replay was watched repeatedly in slow and super-slow motion with effort made to side with the referee where possible – decisions were not changed unless there was clear evidence that they should be.

The big calls that went against United and could have influenced the course of the title race included a penalty decision given against Rio Ferdinand for his tackle on Hatem Ben Arfa at Old Trafford last November, which meant they drew 1-1 with Newcastle.

There was also a potentially game-changing Jonathan Woodgate foul on Javier Hernández which was not given in the 1-1 draw at Stoke last September and should have resulted in a penalty and a red card. Each of these decisions probably cost United two points and a foul in the penalty area on Patrice Evra not given in their 3-2 defeat by Blackburn is likely to have deprived them another point.
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The theory that the impact of refereeing decisions evens itself out over the course of the season is challenged by the research. United, for example, had 59.3 per cent of incorrect decisions go against them; City had 73.7 per cent of incorrect calls go against them. The difference between them and United is that when they lost out to refereeing decisions it didn’t alter the eventual result and only cost them two points.

The decisions analysed were those which could have, or did, lead to a goal. Match scores were adjusted as if each of the 179 incorrect decisions had been corrected by video technology in real time and an assumption made that any penalty that should have been given was successfully converted. The adjusted league table was then constructed based on the revised match results.

Among the 674 decisions analysed were 345 penalty calls made or missed, 129 key offside rulings and 135 incidents which did or should have led to a sending off.
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Re: The Decisions that cost man utd the title

Postby Lees Alter Ego » Sat May 12, 2012 12:04 pm

Haha amazing that. Just off the top of my head what about the goal Wigan scored in first half that had nothing wrong with it? Farce
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Re: The Decisions that cost man utd the title

Postby saulman » Sat May 12, 2012 12:09 pm

Hmmmm. No mention of the Bacons decision to come to our place and setting his team up for a draw....?
IMO, that cost them the title, along with the 6-1 buggering they recieved at their place. Look no further than that.
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Re: The Decisions that cost man utd the title

Postby mcfc1632 » Sat May 12, 2012 12:13 pm

Lees Alter Ego wrote:Haha amazing that. Just off the top of my head what about the goal Wigan scored in first half that had nothing wrong with it? Farce



Honestly mate - do not go there - finding the exceptions - what about the 2nd 'penalty' against chelsea - never a penalty and not commented on here and finding the many other examples is just giving this thrash article a modicum of respect - when actually it is fit for only arse-wiping
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Re: The Decisions that cost man utd the title

Postby branny » Sat May 12, 2012 1:07 pm

One eyed journalism of the highest order. It mentions penalty after penalty that have not been given in u*ds favour and assumes that they would have been converted. Does he really think we'd have dropped 2 points at Stamford bridge if we'd have been 2-0 up? He also seems of the opinion that penalties are the only game changers. No mention of Reina's handball outside the box at Anfield that would have left them with 10 men. Balotelli's ridiculous 2nd yellow in the same game, the foui on Dzeko in the lead up to Fulham's equaliser etc etc. Broken biscuits the whole thing. If you do lose it, lose it with dignity ffs.
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Re: The Decisions that cost man utd the title

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sat May 12, 2012 1:13 pm

The only bit in there that's a 'fact' is that if the Sunderland goal had been given offside we'd have got a point. As Gael Cliché says, goals change games. If we'd been give the penalty against Chelsea, for instance, we'd have been 2-0 up with about 30 mins gone. Who knows what would have happened then. AVB was under pressure, so they could have folded and we'd have won by 4 or 5. Or they could have had a brilliant fight back, won the game and he'd still be in a job.

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Re: The Decisions that cost man utd the title

Postby Swales4ever » Sat May 12, 2012 1:25 pm

Well, Sir Cheat still enjoy lovely relationships with the rags loving media: not the greatest surprise, ain't it?

why he shouldn't try the last, desperate trick to put some pressure on the officials, seeking the last attempt to influence the natural course of the events? It is his dirty style, as ever, isn't it?

Luckily enough the game at the Ethiad will be officiated by the most reliable referee of the Premier, not an "all risks" policy, but it's something.
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Re: The Decisions that cost man utd the title

Postby Rag_hater » Sat May 12, 2012 1:30 pm

Fortunatley most people can see the article for the paranoid bolloxs it is and hopefully it will bring home the nonsense some of our fans have been spouting about bias.
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Re: The Decisions that cost man utd the title

Postby bluej » Sat May 12, 2012 1:32 pm

That's an incredible piece of 'journalism'.
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Re: The Decisions that cost man utd the title

Postby Dronny » Sat May 12, 2012 6:04 pm

It truly is a piece of "if my Auntie had bollox..." crap
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Re: The Decisions that cost man utd the title

Postby Original Dub » Sat May 12, 2012 6:49 pm

Rag_hater wrote:Fortunatley most people can see the article for the paranoid bolloxs it is and hopefully it will bring home the nonsense some of our fans have been spouting about bias.


How the fuck did you manage to contradict yourself in one post??

There has been bias both in the media and on the pitch all season. This is simply the grand finale of it all.

You say that fans like me were "spouting nonsense" about bias whilst quoting the most bias article of the lot?

Stand up, wherever you are sir.... And take a bow.

Then take your head to the extreme head wobbling world championships and steal the fucking show.
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Re: The Decisions that cost man utd the title

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sat May 12, 2012 7:26 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:Fortunatley most people can see the article for the paranoid bolloxs it is and hopefully it will bring home the nonsense some of our fans have been spouting about bias.


How the fuck did you manage to contradict yourself in one post??

There has been bias both in the media and on the pitch all season. This is simply the grand finale of it all.

You say that fans like me were "spouting nonsense" about bias whilst quoting the most bias article of the lot?

Stand up, wherever you are sir.... And take a bow.

Then take your head to the extreme head wobbling world championships and steal the fucking show.


Your a funny fucker OD..me you and Ted against a million rags in a pub...no contest.
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Re: The Decisions that cost man utd the title

Postby Rag_hater » Sat May 12, 2012 7:59 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:Fortunatley most people can see the article for the paranoid bolloxs it is and hopefully it will bring home the nonsense some of our fans have been spouting about bias.


How the fuck did you manage to contradict yourself in one post??

There has been bias both in the media and on the pitch all season. This is simply the grand finale of it all.

You say that fans like me were "spouting nonsense" about bias whilst quoting the most bias article of the lot?

Stand up, wherever you are sir.... And take a bow.

Then take your head to the extreme head wobbling world championships and steal the fucking show.


So you agree with the daft sod.It seems you must do if you think he has been able to find the so called bias towards the rags.
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