Tevez - Should he stay or should he go now?

[beehive's dodgy pint]

If you look at the QPR game again in a situation of calmness, he was actually pretty unlucky not to score or create a goal. On another day he may have won us that one.

If you look at the QPR game again in a situation of calmness, he was actually pretty lucky not to get sent off. On another day he may have lost us that one.

Good point....he swung one at Barton in the initial coming together. Whether that in itself would have won or lost us the game, I don't know? However, for all the moments of brilliance and match winning he has done I, like others on here, have that feeling he will cause disruption again. Next time the tumor may be inoperable and our season falls apart completely.

[Dubaimancityfan]

I'm the forgiving type, so I voted yes. He did help at the end of the season and he still has a lot offer.

[Mingchester Mingy]

we won the league without him for the most part, even when he came back he made little contribution. I'd let him stay but I wouldnt rely on him, he'd be a sub for me until he proves his loyalty and ability again.

He made little contribution????? He completely changed the dynamics and creativity of our team with him on the pitch. Let us not forget the hat trick. To say he had little contribution since he came back to me my man, would be like the people who think Yaya doesnt bring much to the team because he doesnt net 30 a season.
I think he proved his ability and will be our starter with Sergio, with some combination of Dzeko or Balo.

Ok, maybe I was wrong to say little contribution, fair do's he got a hat trick in a game that we would have won with or without him then failed to score for 4 games and played absolutely wank in our final and most important game of the season.

I dont think he played Wank in the last game. In fact, prior to the last 5 minutes who had a good game? We can all bounce back numbers, stats, scorn for a player, hate for a player etc....at the end of the day, he breathes life into the creativity on the offensive attack and works his arse off. I say this, with Tevez this season, we repeat. Without him, we do not. I will say it again as the season gets closer , but I truly believe it. The run we made at the end of the campaign was due to the freshness he brought back into our attack.

[Wonderwall]

I dont think he played Wank in the last game. In fact, prior to the last 5 minutes who had a good game? We can all bounce back numbers, stats, scorn for a player, hate for a player etc....at the end of the day, he breathes life into the creativity on the offensive attack and works his arse off. I say this, with Tevez this season, we repeat. Without him, we do not. I will say it again as the season gets closer , but I truly believe it. The run we made at the end of the campaign was due to the freshness he brought back into our attack.

Or the fact that sulkotelli was banned

[Foreverinbluedreams]

we won the league without him for the most part, even when he came back he made little contribution. I'd let him stay but I wouldnt rely on him, he'd be a sub for me until he proves his loyalty and ability again.

He made little contribution????? He completely changed the dynamics and creativity of our team with him on the pitch. Let us not forget the hat trick. To say he had little contribution since he came back to me my man, would be like the people who think Yaya doesnt bring much to the team because he doesnt net 30 a season.
I think he proved his ability and will be our starter with Sergio, with some combination of Dzeko or Balo.

Ok, maybe I was wrong to say little contribution, fair do's he got a hat trick in a game that we would have won with or without him then failed to score for 4 games and played absolutely wank in our final and most important game of the season.

I dont think he played Wank in the last game. In fact, prior to the last 5 minutes who had a good game? We can all bounce back numbers, stats, scorn for a player, hate for a player etc....at the end of the day, he breathes life into the creativity on the offensive attack and works his arse off. I say this, with Tevez this season, we repeat. Without him, we do not. I will say it again as the season gets closer , but I truly believe it. The run we made at the end of the campaign was due to the freshness he brought back into our attack.

So it had nothing to do with Mancini removing all pressure from the team, thus freeing them up to play like they did earlier in the season?

He played his part, he did add a new dimension to the attack but the way some are talking here you'd swear he was the messiah.

[Beefymcfc]

we won the league without him for the most part, even when he came back he made little contribution. I'd let him stay but I wouldnt rely on him, he'd be a sub for me until he proves his loyalty and ability again.

He made little contribution????? He completely changed the dynamics and creativity of our team with him on the pitch. Let us not forget the hat trick. To say he had little contribution since he came back to me my man, would be like the people who think Yaya doesnt bring much to the team because he doesnt net 30 a season.
I think he proved his ability and will be our starter with Sergio, with some combination of Dzeko or Balo.

Ok, maybe I was wrong to say little contribution, fair do's he got a hat trick in a game that we would have won with or without him then failed to score for 4 games and played absolutely wank in our final and most important game of the season.

I dont think he played Wank in the last game. In fact, prior to the last 5 minutes who had a good game? We can all bounce back numbers, stats, scorn for a player, hate for a player etc....at the end of the day, he breathes life into the creativity on the offensive attack and works his arse off. I say this, with Tevez this season, we repeat. Without him, we do not. I will say it again as the season gets closer , but I truly believe it. The run we made at the end of the campaign was due to the freshness he brought back into our attack.

So it had nothing to do with Mancini removing all pressure from the team, thus freeing them up to play like they did earlier in the season?

He played his part, he did add a new dimension to the attack but the way some are talking here you'd swear he was the messiah.

I put it down to the sun coming out.

[Mingchester Mingy]

Im just saying, he and Aguero staying together is huge for us. If he goes, I will be upset , but I like the guy and love his effort on the pitch. Mancini cant control creativity on a pitch, I played alot of futbol in my time, and I can say that a coach can lay out a gameplan....but creating time , space, and angles.....a coach cant do that mid game.

[Original Dub]

So it had nothing to do with Mancini removing all pressure from the team, thus freeing them up to play like they did earlier in the season?

He played his part, he did add a new dimension to the attack but the way some are talking here you'd swear he was the messiah.

Who said he was messiah or anything like that?

If yoy honestly believe mancini's mind games played a bigger part in our last 6 games or so than tevez in changing the dynamics then you're off your head mate.

He is a grade a stupid cunt, but one of the best strikers in world football.

Far more powerful than a few words at a press conference.

There is no doubt he changed the dynamics of the team and greatly improved us when we needed it most. As confirmed by by players and manager.

The game we would have won anyway?

Not fucking likely mate.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

So it had nothing to do with Mancini removing all pressure from the team, thus freeing them up to play like they did earlier in the season?

He played his part, he did add a new dimension to the attack but the way some are talking here you'd swear he was the messiah.

Who said he was messiah or anything like that?

If yoy honestly believe mancini's mind games played a bigger part in our last 6 games or so than tevez in changing the dynamics then you're off your head mate.

He is a grade a stupid cunt, but one of the best strikers in world football.

Far more powerful than a few words at a press conference.

There is no doubt he changed the dynamics of the team and greatly improved us when we needed it most. As confirmed by by players and manager.

The game we would have won anyway?

Not fucking likely mate.

Who said anything about a press conference?

I'm referring to what Khaldoon referred to in his end of season interview, that Mancini removed the pressure from the players, perhaps Khaldoon is off his head too, eh?

What game we would have won? I never said anything about a game we would have won.

[Beefymcfc]

He can stay for me, along with the rest of the PL winning squad. A couple of additions in strategic places would be much appreciated, if someone can sort that for me, please?

[phips]

frankly, i don't really know.

he gives is all whenever he's on the pitch and his a GREAT player. off the pitch he's been know to be a fucking idiot with an even dumber "agent".

if we keep him it only tells him that his behavior is somewhat acceptable. but if we get rid of him, who do we get that is of equal talent?

[Original Dub]

Who said anything about a press conference?

I'm referring to what Khaldoon referred to in his end of season interview, that Mancini removed the pressure from the players, perhaps Khaldoon is off his head too, eh?

What game we would have won? I never said anything about a game we would have won.

I was answering another poster with that line...

No, the chairman isn't off his head. Mancini did all he could do when it reached crisis point and played our last chance down.

If you think his words in press conferences played a bigger part in the run in than tevez then you are absolutely off your head.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Who said anything about a press conference?

I'm referring to what Khaldoon referred to in his end of season interview, that Mancini removed the pressure from the players, perhaps Khaldoon is off his head too, eh?

What game we would have won? I never said anything about a game we would have won.

I was answering another poster with that line...

No, the chairman isn't off his head. Mancini did all he could do when it reached crisis point and played our last chance down.

If you think his words in press conferences played a bigger part in the run in than tevez then you are absolutely off your head.

Why do you keep referring to a press conference?

I'm talking about Mancini taking the pressure off the players in the dressing room, something that Khaldoon referred to, that Barry referred to, that Silva referred to.

Khaldoon:

“I remember talking to Roberto Mancini after the game, just the two of us, and we both looked at each other and had this moment, ‘Let’s take it one step at a time, we can still pull it off but let’s take the pressure off everyone, the players.’

“That was a tough loss, but we still had six games left to go and if we could win them all, with a bit of luck, we could still pull it off.

“Roberto did a magnificent job in easing the pressure off the entire team and managing through one of the most amazing turnarounds, not just in football, but in sport.”

Barry:

"He's (Mancini) taken lot of the pressure off the players, that's worked really well for us. We've really raised our game since a couple of disappointing results."

Silva:

He has certainly taken the pressure off the players, which always helps because the pressure is always there between Manchester United and City. Yes, him taking the pressure off the players has really helped."

[Ted Hughes]

If you look at the QPR game again in a situation of calmness, he was actually pretty unlucky not to score or create a goal. On another day he may have won us that one.

If you look at the QPR game again in a situation of calmness, he was actually pretty lucky not to get sent off. On another day he may have lost us that one.

So therefore he won it for us by getting Barton sent off.

[Wonderwall]

The one thing tevez does provide is a massive fuclin headache for the opposition manager. Imagine having to plan a strategy to cope with our strongest 11. It must keep most managers awake at night at the thought of coming to eastlands.

[Mingchester Mingy]

The one thing tevez does provide is a massive fuclin headache for the opposition manager. Imagine having to plan a strategy to cope with our strongest 11. It must keep most managers awake at night at the thought of coming to eastlands.

Right on....then think about defensively you got Team Argentine up top to deal with. Those two speedy little bastards....and hey, you go up on us late by a goal....we could bring in Edin to put home a cross. I really dont think we need to mess with this team all that much. Shit, maybe get Sneijder, and a defensive stud and call it an offseason. I love this team and the only player I wouldnt mind seeing leave is the one who cant put a penny on.

[Original Dub]

Why do you keep referring to a press conference?

I'm talking about Mancini taking the pressure off the players in the dressing room, something that Khaldoon referred to, that Barry referred to, that Silva referred to.

Khaldoon:

“I remember talking to Roberto Mancini after the game, just the two of us, and we both looked at each other and had this moment, ‘Let’s take it one step at a time, we can still pull it off but let’s take the pressure off everyone, the players.’

“That was a tough loss, but we still had six games left to go and if we could win them all, with a bit of luck, we could still pull it off.

“Roberto did a magnificent job in easing the pressure off the entire team and managing through one of the most amazing turnarounds, not just in football, but in sport.”

Barry:

"He's (Mancini) taken lot of the pressure off the players, that's worked really well for us. We've really raised our game since a couple of disappointing results."

Silva:

He has certainly taken the pressure off the players, which always helps because the pressure is always there between Manchester United and City. Yes, him taking the pressure off the players has really helped."

We could go on all night.

I think if you believe mancini's "easing of the pressure" contributed more than tevez returning to the pitch in those final 6 games then I think you're off your head.

Both these things helped turn it around but I feel without tevez, mancini's "easing of the pressure" would have amounted to very little.

We were in free fall and in desperate need of new options up front. I saw it that way at the time and nothing has or ever will change my mind.

[Beefymcfc]

The one thing tevez does provide is a massive fuclin headache for the opposition manager. Imagine having to plan a strategy to cope with our strongest 11. It must keep most managers awake at night at the thought of coming to eastlands.

Park the bus?

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Why do you keep referring to a press conference?

I'm talking about Mancini taking the pressure off the players in the dressing room, something that Khaldoon referred to, that Barry referred to, that Silva referred to.

Khaldoon:

“I remember talking to Roberto Mancini after the game, just the two of us, and we both looked at each other and had this moment, ‘Let’s take it one step at a time, we can still pull it off but let’s take the pressure off everyone, the players.’

“That was a tough loss, but we still had six games left to go and if we could win them all, with a bit of luck, we could still pull it off.

“Roberto did a magnificent job in easing the pressure off the entire team and managing through one of the most amazing turnarounds, not just in football, but in sport.”

Barry:

"He's (Mancini) taken lot of the pressure off the players, that's worked really well for us. We've really raised our game since a couple of disappointing results."

Silva:

He has certainly taken the pressure off the players, which always helps because the pressure is always there between Manchester United and City. Yes, him taking the pressure off the players has really helped."

We could go on all night.

I think if you believe mancini's "easing of the pressure" contributed more than tevez returning to the pitch in those final 6 games then I think you're off your head.

Both these things helped turn it around but I feel without tevez, mancini's "easing of the pressure" would have amounted to very little.

We were in free fall and in desperate need of new options up front. I saw it that way at the time and nothing has or ever will change my mind.

Fair enough mate, we'll agree to disagree.

I don't doubt that Tevez return to the team played it's part. I do believe the impact he made is being exaggerated though.

[Alioune DVToure]

Fair enough mate, we'll agree to disagree.

I don't doubt that Tevez return to the team played it's part. I do believe the impact he made is being exaggerated though.

It was THAT press conference as far as I'm concerned, and you can quote me on that.