Man City: Ex-chief executive Garry Cook felt he 'embarrassed

[mcfc1632]

With the recent rumblings (PR), my money is on him coming back.

I would 'love it' - tremendous commercial acumen and is passionate about the club

We seem to have lost a bit of momentum since he departed and with FFP looming we must address this.

If we can accept Tevez back surely we can invite Cook back

I would prefer this to any number of high-profile player signings

I find this delusion funniest of all.I think the Vincent going to Vietnam video seems to suggest our marketing is going fine.He says in the piece we are where we are without him.He did what he was paid for if that makes you money men think he was something special then it seems your in disagreement with the people who sacked him.

You do seem to have some extreme views on a range things - but you are blue and on a forum so that is absolutely your right.

I equally have a right for my views and it would seem that they are shared by a majority - so I do think that you are OTT to suggest that my views are 'delusional'

A video - Vietnam ? I wonder when the interactions began to establish contacts over there? I wonder who was the initial catalyst - in Cook's era ? neither you not I know. I would though not suggest that in 2012 a video / trip of the captain of the PL winning team should be seen as a major marketing accomplishment - pretty low hanging fruit I would think.

But what we do know is the massive growth year on year in our turnover under Cook's stewardship and the establishment of significant relations with the MCC and the capture of significant major sponsorships. Without this the cartel that drive UeFA may well have been successful in stopping our growth - either way his commenrcial success is (to us money men) highly impressive

We also know that he had a role (medium or major) in bringing the Sheik to our beloved club.

Star players come and go but I would put no signing ahead of Cook in regards to the importance of our club when we look back in years to come.

After 46 years of supporting CITY and being a season ticket holder for longer than most on here have been around – I recognise Cook as one of the most pivotal people to have been involved with CITY – and, as a fan, I admire his passion for our club.

For me he is one of a very limited group of people that have bought to the club that I am obsessed by a level of enjoyment and success that I had written off ever occurring in my lifetime – so yes I see him as greatly enriching my own life.

Holding him in such high-esteem is a right that I have – you of course have a right to your opinions

[Beefymcfc]

With the recent rumblings (PR), my money is on him coming back.

I would 'love it' - tremendous commercial acumen and is passionate about the club

We seem to have lost a bit of momentum since he departed and with FFP looming we must address this.

If we can accept Tevez back surely we can invite Cook back

I would prefer this to any number of high-profile player signings

I find this delusion funniest of all.I think the Vincent going to Vietnam video seems to suggest our marketing is going fine.He says in the piece we are where we are without him.He did what he was paid for if that makes you money men think he was something special then it seems your in disagreement with the people who sacked him.

You do seem to have some extreme views on a range things - but you are blue and on a forum so that is absolutely your right.

I equally have a right for my views and it would seem that they are shared by a majority - so I do think that you are OTT to suggest that my views are 'delusional'

A video - Vietnam ? I wonder when the interactions began to establish contacts over there? I wonder who was the initial catalyst - in Cook's era ? neither you not I know. I would though not suggest that in 2012 a video / trip of the captain of the PL winning team should be seen as a major marketing accomplishment - pretty low hanging fruit I would think.

But what we do know is the massive growth year on year in our turnover under Cook's stewardship and the establishment of significant relations with the MCC and the capture of significant major sponsorships. Without this the cartel that drive UeFA may well have been successful in stopping our growth - either way his commenrcial success is (to us money men) highly impressive

We also know that he had a role (medium or major) in bringing the Sheik to our beloved club.

Star players come and go but I would put no signing ahead of Cook in regards to the importance of our club when we look back in years to come.

After 46 years of supporting CITY and being a season ticket holder for longer than most on here have been around – I recognise Cook as one of the most pivotal people to have been involved with CITY – and, as a fan, I admire his passion for our club.

For me he is one of a very limited group of people that have bought to the club that I am obsessed by a level of enjoyment and success that I had written off ever occurring in my lifetime – so yes I see him as greatly enriching my own life.

Holding him in such high-esteem is a right that I have – you of course have a right to your opinions

Don't bang your head mate, that 'der wall is just to thick.

[Rag_hater]

With the recent rumblings (PR), my money is on him coming back.

I would 'love it' - tremendous commercial acumen and is passionate about the club

We seem to have lost a bit of momentum since he departed and with FFP looming we must address this.

If we can accept Tevez back surely we can invite Cook back

I would prefer this to any number of high-profile player signings

I find this delusion funniest of all.I think the Vincent going to Vietnam video seems to suggest our marketing is going fine.He says in the piece we are where we are without him.He did what he was paid for if that makes you money men think he was something special then it seems your in disagreement with the people who sacked him.

2 things to think about:

1. Who set all the marketing infrastructure in place?

2. Was Cook sacked?

In answer to your first question that was his job and IMO he did not do something that only he was capable of.Many people could have done what he did.
The second part I do not really care if he was sacked or forced to resign.

[Beefymcfc]

2 things to think about:

1. Who set all the marketing infrastructure in place?

2. Was Cook sacked?

In answer to your first question that was his job and IMO he did not do something that only he was capable of.Many people could have done what he did.
The second part I do not really care if he was sacked or forced to resign.

1. So, just because it was Garry Cook then he doesn't deserve the credit; actually, nobody would ever deserve credit for anything in your book. Mansour, Khaldoon, Mancini, Vince et al take note, it was nothing to do with you that we won the PL.

2. If you don't care then why make it out to be the former, in fact, why care atall? Just to keep it facual though, the official route that Garry Cook took was that he stepped down, resigned, fell on his sword, not sacked or any other combination of mis-information that you'd care to spout.

But you don't care.

[Rag_hater]

[quote="Sister of fu"]





"I'm not responsible for what happened at Manchester City. I only played my part and I was very fortunate to be given that opportunity."


Sorry to piss on peoples chips but thats the truth from the horse's mouth

[Beefymcfc]

"I'm not responsible for what happened at Manchester City. I only played my part and I was very fortunate to be given that opportunity."

Sorry to piss on peoples chips but thats the truth from the horse's mouth

What's that word again?

[Bluedj]

With the recent rumblings (PR), my money is on him coming back.

I would 'love it' - tremendous commercial acumen and is passionate about the club

We seem to have lost a bit of momentum since he departed and with FFP looming we must address this.

If we can accept Tevez back surely we can invite Cook back

I would prefer this to any number of high-profile player signings

I find this delusion funniest of all.I think the Vincent going to Vietnam video seems to suggest our marketing is going fine.He says in the piece we are where we are without him.He did what he was paid for if that makes you money men think he was something special then it seems your in disagreement with the people who sacked him.

Absloutely agree with you on your comments, well said

You do seem to have some extreme views on a range things - but you are blue and on a forum so that is absolutely your right.

I equally have a right for my views and it would seem that they are shared by a majority - so I do think that you are OTT to suggest that my views are 'delusional'

A video - Vietnam ? I wonder when the interactions began to establish contacts over there? I wonder who was the initial catalyst - in Cook's era ? neither you not I know. I would though not suggest that in 2012 a video / trip of the captain of the PL winning team should be seen as a major marketing accomplishment - pretty low hanging fruit I would think.

But what we do know is the massive growth year on year in our turnover under Cook's stewardship and the establishment of significant relations with the MCC and the capture of significant major sponsorships. Without this the cartel that drive UeFA may well have been successful in stopping our growth - either way his commenrcial success is (to us money men) highly impressive

We also know that he had a role (medium or major) in bringing the Sheik to our beloved club.

Star players come and go but I would put no signing ahead of Cook in regards to the importance of our club when we look back in years to come.

After 46 years of supporting CITY and being a season ticket holder for longer than most on here have been around – I recognise Cook as one of the most pivotal people to have been involved with CITY – and, as a fan, I admire his passion for our club.

For me he is one of a very limited group of people that have bought to the club that I am obsessed by a level of enjoyment and success that I had written off ever occurring in my lifetime – so yes I see him as greatly enriching my own life.

Holding him in such high-esteem is a right that I have – you of course have a right to your opinions

[Tokyo Blue]

1. He is right - he was an embarrassment.

2. He has no passsion for the club - he couldn't even get the name of the club right in front of a hall full of customers. He has a passion for the seven-figure sum that got dropped in his bank account.

3. Stay away, please, mister cook. (see 1.)

[mcfc1632]

I think that an individual’s view of Cook depends on what you see as important and what should be used to judge the success of his role.

I understand that for some it can all be about polish and image and gaffes such as the Uwe one are major issues - although apart from that one I do not think that there are really others that can be really seen as unforgivable.

For others blues, whilst regrettable, that issue is no more than fluff in the scheme of things and about as important and relevant as Ya Ya allowing himself to be mis-quoted, Balotelli shagging a slapper, or Sergio being stupid with his injury.

But for the players we judge them on the important things – i.e. performances against their key responsibility.

For Cook the key responsibilities were commercial growth, player acquisition and the campus project.

Well we know how good the players are and we understand how the campus is going to be the best in the world and as for commercial growth?

Turnover in 2008/09 was 101.2 and in 2010/11 - 169.6

That for me is just a fantastic performance and I would forgive him the occasional gaffe if he has put us in a position to survive the circling of the G14/ECA wagons to keep us out.

And of course he had an important role in bringing the Sheik to CITY!! Sorry, whilst I understand why they are important for some blues, for me the gaffes are just a bit of fluffy nonsense

[Rag_hater]

What suprises me is how such a talented individual is still on job seekers allowance and no mega company has made him a mega offer seeing how good he is.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

What suprises me is how such a talented individual is still on job seekers allowance and no mega company has made him a mega offer seeing how good he is.

Mancini spent a while doing much the same.

Doesn't mean squat.

[littlebig]

What was the Uwe gaffe?

[Wonderwall]

What was the Uwe gaffe?

Really?

[Ted Hughes]

What suprises me is how such a talented individual is still on job seekers allowance and no mega company has made him a mega offer seeing how good he is.

Mancini spent a while doing much the same.

Doesn't mean squat.

He could be on the payroll of the Sheikh in another capacity. Just because it's not being publicised doesn't mean he isn't working.

[Rag_hater]

What suprises me is how such a talented individual is still on job seekers allowance and no mega company has made him a mega offer seeing how good he is.

Mancini spent a while doing much the same.

Doesn't mean squat.

He could be on the payroll of the Sheikh in another capacity. Just because it's not being publicised doesn't mean he isn't working.

Mr 1632 seems to suggest we have stood still or gone backwards since the disposal of Mr Cook, yet you suggest he might still be there.If we are slowing down and he is still there is that not surely a bit of a bad mark against him.

[mcfc1632]

What suprises me is how such a talented individual is still on job seekers allowance and no mega company has made him a mega offer seeing how good he is.

Mancini spent a while doing much the same.

Doesn't mean squat.

He could be on the payroll of the Sheikh in another capacity. Just because it's not being publicised doesn't mean he isn't working.

Mr 1632 seems to suggest we have stood still or gone backwards since the disposal of Mr Cook, yet you suggest he might still be there.If we are slowing down and he is still there is that not surely a bit of a bad mark against him.

I am suggesting that there is little evidence that our momentum has been sustained (although perhaps there are about to be major announcements?) and I am stating that I see him as a substantial loss

I believe Ted was suggesting that it is possible that the Sheik has him on a retainer - he has much wider business interests than CITY.

Or he could even just be taking a break. Chief Exec level people are defined by their current / last role so he will not jump into any old job - and I would guess that he can afford to take a break and would not qualify for JSA

[Ted Hughes]

What suprises me is how such a talented individual is still on job seekers allowance and no mega company has made him a mega offer seeing how good he is.

Mancini spent a while doing much the same.

Doesn't mean squat.

He could be on the payroll of the Sheikh in another capacity. Just because it's not being publicised doesn't mean he isn't working.

Mr 1632 seems to suggest we have stood still or gone backwards since the disposal of Mr Cook, yet you suggest he might still be there.If we are slowing down and he is still there is that not surely a bit of a bad mark against him.

I am suggesting that there is little evidence that our momentum has been sustained (although perhaps there are about to be major announcements?) and I am stating that I see him as a substantial loss

I believe Ted was suggesting that it is possible that the Sheik has him on a retainer - he has much wider business interests than CITY.

Or he could even just be taking a break. Chief Exec level people are defined by their current / last role so he will not jump into any old job - and I would guess that he can afford to take a break and would not qualify for JSA

That is indeed what I was suggesting. He could also just be using him to help smooth the way for future City deals in the U.S.

[mcfc1632]

Anyway (IMO) – it is not really a subject that needs much debate.
Those that place huge importance on the gaffes will likely not rate him – those that place huge importance on the commercial success that has been achieved likely will rate him highly

I am just glad that this is not a thread about the continuing massive losses being incurred by the club without an increased revenue growth to compensate. I am just glad that we are not bemoaning a decline and challenge to grow such as Liverpool face or the anxieties that would have been facing all Chelsea fans about how to rebuild their aging squad – a challenge that even a CL win cannot fully mask.

I will just take comfort (but not complacency) in the fact that under Cook’s stewardship our revenues increased by in excess of 60% per annum whilst in the same period Chelsea have seen no growth (even a slight reduction) and Liverpool who have also been pretty stagnant.

We are not in the clear yet but our trajectory is very strong – although (and this is why I worry about the loss of Cook) there is not yet evidence that the progress under Cook is being sustained – and we need that to be the case.

Thanks to Mancini, Cook, Khaldoon and of course the Sheik, people can bemoan the importance of verbal gaffes and not fret about whether we will have a rosy future at the top tables.

[john68]

MCFC1632,
I am a big Cook fan and would be happy to have him back at his desk but we should also look at the background that Cook has had to operate in since being at City, though he must be applauded for his role in the change of ownership.

When he arrived, City were almost commercially dormant and though our revenue has grown dramatically under his stewardship, much of that increase has been directly due to the team's "on pitch" progress and largely beyond Cook's control.

Matchday revenue (increased by £2.2m) is largely controlled by the capacity of the ground, attendances, the number of games and the quality of the competition of those games.The latest figure show we played 29 games, 4 games more at the Etihad than the previous season with League attendances at 96% capacity.

Broadcasting revenues (increased by £14.8m) are largely controlled by similar factors. Our 3rd place finish, the FACup Final and the £5.5m City received from UeFA due to our Europa League campaign.

Commercial revenue (increased by £11.1m) may be where Cook's strength lies, though partnerships with Etihad Airways, Etisalat, Aabar and the Abu Dhabi Tourism Authority would have been made easier by their links with our owners.

I expect a huge revenue increase in the next set of figures (with or without Cook) due to our runs in the CL/Euro League, increased broadacasting revenues and the fact that we are reigning Champions.

[Rag_hater]

MCFC1632,
I am a big Cook fan and would be happy to have him back at his desk but we should also look at the background that Cook has had to operate in since being at City, though he must be applauded for his role in the change of ownership.

When he arrived, City were almost commercially dormant and though our revenue has grown dramatically under his stewardship, much of that increase has been directly due to the team's "on pitch" progress and largely beyond Cook's control.

Matchday revenue (increased by £2.2m) is largely controlled by the capacity of the ground, attendances, the number of games and the quality of the competition of those games.The latest figure show we played 29 games, 4 games more at the Etihad than the previous season with League attendances at 96% capacity.

Broadcasting revenues (increased by £14.8m) are largely controlled by similar factors. Our 3rd place finish, the FACup Final and the £5.5m City received from UeFA due to our Europa League campaign.

Commercial revenue (increased by £11.1m) may be where Cook's strength lies, though partnerships with Etihad Airways, Etisalat, Aabar and the Abu Dhabi Tourism Authority would have been made easier by their links with our owners.

I expect a huge revenue increase in the next set of figures (with or without Cook) due to our runs in the CL/Euro League, increased broadacasting revenues and the fact that we are reigning Champions.

That could all probably doubled if Cook was still here