****official england v france thread****

[Swales4ever]

Michael Ballsack ripping England for parking the bus and being boring boring cunts. Martinez agrees with him. " i do love to win football with a positive attacking, a footballing philosophy" and he started, in response to ginger twat Lexi Lawlessness who claimed what England did was "beautiful" with "it can be beautiful only if you win the tournament"...which cracked me up.

We were boring...no invention..nothing......woy is as exciting as he looks..bet his mrs shags the gardener or Milk man.

Legendary rant. sadly very true also.

[Beefymcfc]

We (well I am anyway) are supporting ENGLAND. ENGLAND, not city, not united, ENGLAND. When they play I don't care if they play for City, United or Bury. I HATE how some people make international football all bout club football, it's not!

Rooney without doubt is the best striker England have and therefore from an England perspective he's good for the team.

I might be wrong but you may have said that our creativity comes from Sherk? I love our International team regardless, but Sherk hasn't done anything of note since he got the call. A media love-child, a Fergy-Fledgeling, absolute bollocks when the media darling can call him world class when he hasn't proved his status; I will never know.

What's worse is that he takes up all the media spot-light as our only true class world player. Makes him a fortune, not proved a fucking thing; CUNT!

[Bridge'srightfoot]

We (well I am anyway) are supporting ENGLAND. ENGLAND, not city, not united, ENGLAND. When they play I don't care if they play for City, United or Bury. I HATE how some people make international football all bout club football, it's not!

Rooney without doubt is the best striker England have and therefore from an England perspective he's good for the team.

I might be wrong but you may have said that our creativity comes from Sherk? I love our International team regardless, but Sherk hasn't done anything of note since he got the call. A media love-child, a Fergy-Fledgeling, absolute bollocks when the media darling can call him world class when he hasn't proved his status; I will never know.

What's worse is that he takes up all the media spot-light as our only true class world player. Makes him a fortune, not proved a fucking thing; CUNT!

Oh give over, exactly what i hate, making international football about club football rivalries. Anyone with half a brain could recognise he's England's best striker.

He's a c*nt, granny shagger and general twat but one thing you can't doubt is his ability.

[carl_feedthegoat]

We (well I am anyway) are supporting ENGLAND. ENGLAND, not city, not united, ENGLAND. When they play I don't care if they play for City, United or Bury. I HATE how some people make international football all bout club football, it's not!

Rooney without doubt is the best striker England have and therefore from an England perspective he's good for the team.

I might be wrong but you may have said that our creativity comes from Sherk? I love our International team regardless, but Sherk hasn't done anything of note since he got the call. A media love-child, a Fergy-Fledgeling, absolute bollocks when the media darling can call him world class when he hasn't proved his status; I will never know.

What's worse is that he takes up all the media spot-light as our only true class world player. Makes him a fortune, not proved a fucking thing; CUNT!

Oh give over, exactly what i hate, making international football about club football rivalries. Anyone with half a brain could recognise he's England's best striker.

He's a c*nt, granny shagger and general twat but one thing you can't doubt is his ability.

Hes scored 3 goals in the best part of 3 years for England.

Overhyped sack of shit.

[Wonderwall]

Hes scored 3 goals in the best part of 3 years for England.

Overhyped sack of shit.

This^^^^^^^

[Beefymcfc]

We (well I am anyway) are supporting ENGLAND. ENGLAND, not city, not united, ENGLAND. When they play I don't care if they play for City, United or Bury. I HATE how some people make international football all bout club football, it's not!

Rooney without doubt is the best striker England have and therefore from an England perspective he's good for the team.

I might be wrong but you may have said that our creativity comes from Sherk? I love our International team regardless, but Sherk hasn't done anything of note since he got the call. A media love-child, a Fergy-Fledgeling, absolute bollocks when the media darling can call him world class when he hasn't proved his status; I will never know.

What's worse is that he takes up all the media spot-light as our only true class world player. Makes him a fortune, not proved a fucking thing; CUNT!

Oh give over, exactly what i hate, making international football about club football rivalries. Anyone with half a brain could recognise he's England's best striker.

He's a c*nt, granny shagger and general twat but one thing you can't doubt is his ability.

Exactly what you hate, Blue Tinted glasses and all that! Fucking tell me cunt twat, what the fuck he has ever done for England? Come on, tell me where the Worlds Best has taken us, where he's proved to be an inspiration to the rest? Where is he the creativity, the leader, the difference between us failing and succeeding, where is it. Show me, and I will suck the green bollox of this hero of England. If not, shut the fuck up and stop sucking scrotes cock.

Bridge Right Foot, that's why he had two lefts!

[DoomMerchant]

All complaints about style of play aside, this was Hodgson's third game in all and first competitive game, and that was a cut above anything England mustered in South Africa.

We'll get at least four points against Sweden and Ukraine and progress. I for one am satisfied. About time we started playing un a common sense manner.

Well said!

We don't have many good players and it astounds me that people still think we have this god-given right to be the best. We are pretty shit and have been for many years. We are not, and never have been, in the same international league in terms of quality as Germany, Italy, Brazil, Argentina, Netherlands, France, and now Spain. Our level is more Russia, Croatia, Mexico, USA, Portugal etc. I'm not taking the piss there - that's a fact, but the majority of England fans can't accept that. Look at our record in tournaments for evidence.

We did well tonight and got a good result against a team who were technically better than us and could retain the ball with more superiority.

I've always liked Hodgson but believe he made some poor (Liverpool-influenced) squad choices. However, his plan is to make England hard to beat and move on from there. That is our ONLY chance of progressing - our attacking strength isn't good enough but we have the world's best goalkeeper (Hart), the best CB in the Prem last season (Lescott) and a top class LB (Cole). If the midfield get behind the ball and Johnson occasionally gets into the right fucking position then teams will struggle to break us down.

Before tonight I fully expected us to lose to France, but we got a draw and now have a great chance to qualify.

On another note, how great was it seeing City players running the show!?!? :-)

We do have a god given right..we invented the fuckign game.

you invented it, but you lazy fuclers had to let the Scots create a professional attitude about how to do it properly. Broken Britain.

cheers

[Beefymcfc]

All complaints about style of play aside, this was Hodgson's third game in all and first competitive game, and that was a cut above anything England mustered in South Africa.

We'll get at least four points against Sweden and Ukraine and progress. I for one am satisfied. About time we started playing un a common sense manner.

Well said!

We don't have many good players and it astounds me that people still think we have this god-given right to be the best. We are pretty shit and have been for many years. We are not, and never have been, in the same international league in terms of quality as Germany, Italy, Brazil, Argentina, Netherlands, France, and now Spain. Our level is more Russia, Croatia, Mexico, USA, Portugal etc. I'm not taking the piss there - that's a fact, but the majority of England fans can't accept that. Look at our record in tournaments for evidence.

We did well tonight and got a good result against a team who were technically better than us and could retain the ball with more superiority.

I've always liked Hodgson but believe he made some poor (Liverpool-influenced) squad choices. However, his plan is to make England hard to beat and move on from there. That is our ONLY chance of progressing - our attacking strength isn't good enough but we have the world's best goalkeeper (Hart), the best CB in the Prem last season (Lescott) and a top class LB (Cole). If the midfield get behind the ball and Johnson occasionally gets into the right fucking position then teams will struggle to break us down.

Before tonight I fully expected us to lose to France, but we got a draw and now have a great chance to qualify.

On another note, how great was it seeing City players running the show!?!? :-)

We do have a god given right..we invented the fuckign game.

you invented it, but you lazy fuclers had to let the Scots create a professional attitude about how to do it properly. Broken Britain.

cheers

Wiki is not the truth!

[DoomMerchant]

All complaints about style of play aside, this was Hodgson's third game in all and first competitive game, and that was a cut above anything England mustered in South Africa.

We'll get at least four points against Sweden and Ukraine and progress. I for one am satisfied. About time we started playing un a common sense manner.

Well said!

We don't have many good players and it astounds me that people still think we have this god-given right to be the best. We are pretty shit and have been for many years. We are not, and never have been, in the same international league in terms of quality as Germany, Italy, Brazil, Argentina, Netherlands, France, and now Spain. Our level is more Russia, Croatia, Mexico, USA, Portugal etc. I'm not taking the piss there - that's a fact, but the majority of England fans can't accept that. Look at our record in tournaments for evidence.

We did well tonight and got a good result against a team who were technically better than us and could retain the ball with more superiority.

I've always liked Hodgson but believe he made some poor (Liverpool-influenced) squad choices. However, his plan is to make England hard to beat and move on from there. That is our ONLY chance of progressing - our attacking strength isn't good enough but we have the world's best goalkeeper (Hart), the best CB in the Prem last season (Lescott) and a top class LB (Cole). If the midfield get behind the ball and Johnson occasionally gets into the right fucking position then teams will struggle to break us down.

Before tonight I fully expected us to lose to France, but we got a draw and now have a great chance to qualify.

On another note, how great was it seeing City players running the show!?!? :-)

We do have a god given right..we invented the fuckign game.

you invented it, but you lazy fuclers had to let the Scots create a professional attitude about how to do it properly. Broken Britain.

cheers

Wiki is not the truth!

if it's in Wikipedia, it's not where i read about it.

you should know the history of the game you invented better...

unless it was actually the Mayans or Incans who invented it, therefore making it an "American" game. Ahem.

cheers

[Dameerto]

Rooney looks half decent for England playing behind a striker (unless you're called Capello and you pick HESKEY to play him behind) - the role Young was asked to do tonight. A few of Young's passes through the defence were quality whatever your personal views on him are. (He also provided the pass to put Milner through, if I remember correctly)

[Bridge'srightfoot]

We (well I am anyway) are supporting ENGLAND. ENGLAND, not city, not united, ENGLAND. When they play I don't care if they play for City, United or Bury. I HATE how some people make international football all bout club football, it's not!

Rooney without doubt is the best striker England have and therefore from an England perspective he's good for the team.

I might be wrong but you may have said that our creativity comes from Sherk? I love our International team regardless, but Sherk hasn't done anything of note since he got the call. A media love-child, a Fergy-Fledgeling, absolute bollocks when the media darling can call him world class when he hasn't proved his status; I will never know.

What's worse is that he takes up all the media spot-light as our only true class world player. Makes him a fortune, not proved a fucking thing; CUNT!

Oh give over, exactly what i hate, making international football about club football rivalries. Anyone with half a brain could recognise he's England's best striker.

He's a c*nt, granny shagger and general twat but one thing you can't doubt is his ability.

Exactly what you hate, Blue Tinted glasses and all that! Fucking tell me cunt twat, what the fuck he has ever done for England? Come on, tell me where the Worlds Best has taken us, where he's proved to be an inspiration to the rest? Where is he the creativity, the leader, the difference between us failing and succeeding, where is it. Show me, and I will suck the green bollox of this hero of England. If not, shut the fuck up and stop sucking scrotes cock.

Bridge Right Foot, that's why he had two lefts!

Well he was by far the star player of Euro 2004, he was brilliant there. His strike rate for England is 28/73 which whilst isn't startling is decent enough. He's clearly a very talented player and his record of 129 in 251 games for United proves he's hardly shit as you make out.
What's your basis for calling him a shit player? He scored four more goals than Aguerro last season, Christ Aguerro must be shite if he can't even score more than Rooney?
But if you insist he shouldn't play, then who should? What has Welbeck, Carroll or Defoe done that's so special?
I don't see the need for blue tinted specs here, it's international football. Stop making it about club rivalries and just support England as a team. When players play for England, they aren't playing for City, United, Chelsea or anyone else, they're England players.

[Beefymcfc]

Cheers

[DoomMerchant]

Cheers

cheers

[patrickblue]

All complaints about style of play aside, this was Hodgson's third game in all and first competitive game, and that was a cut above anything England mustered in South Africa.

We'll get at least four points against Sweden and Ukraine and progress. I for one am satisfied. About time we started playing un a common sense manner.

Well said!

We don't have many good players and it astounds me that people still think we have this god-given right to be the best. We are pretty shit and have been for many years. We are not, and never have been, in the same international league in terms of quality as Germany, Italy, Brazil, Argentina, Netherlands, France, and now Spain. Our level is more Russia, Croatia, Mexico, USA, Portugal etc. I'm not taking the piss there - that's a fact, but the majority of England fans can't accept that. Look at our record in tournaments for evidence.

We did well tonight and got a good result against a team who were technically better than us and could retain the ball with more superiority.

I've always liked Hodgson but believe he made some poor (Liverpool-influenced) squad choices. However, his plan is to make England hard to beat and move on from there. That is our ONLY chance of progressing - our attacking strength isn't good enough but we have the world's best goalkeeper (Hart), the best CB in the Prem last season (Lescott) and a top class LB (Cole). If the midfield get behind the ball and Johnson occasionally gets into the right fucking position then teams will struggle to break us down.

Before tonight I fully expected us to lose to France, but we got a draw and now have a great chance to qualify.

On another note, how great was it seeing City players running the show!?!? :-)

We do have a god given right..we invented the fuckign game.

According to Blatter and his pals at FIFA, it was invented by the Chinese. Peking Wanderers and all that.

[sheikh it all about]

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Putting club rivalries aside I actually think Wellbeck looks a decent prospect if he ever gets any service.

[Dubciteh]

Just had a bet on Lescott first scorer 33/1

Ha ha ha!!!! Beers on you.

I got him at 40/1 on paddy power before the game, only had 2quid on him as had a tenner on terry at 25/1. Still nice litle profit!

[Dubciteh]

lol
This is precisely the same crap boring football he got Finland playing when he was in charge only with better players. Thought he might make England play bit more positive football but no. You might get some results with this but you will never win anything nor dominate international football.

Yes i agree.

England were like a slighlt better version of Ireland yesterday, decent defence two midfielders who sit deep in front of the back four.Keep it tight and hope to nick a goal from set piece or a long punt up field where strikers battle for a bit of luck or a drop of a ball to come off. The only difference is England have slighlty better players than Ireland. You conceded possesion too easily as we do, you hope for a bit of magic off the wingers but they spend most there time defending its hard to be effective in the final third.
The only possesion England had was when Terry and Lescott passed it between themselves which eventually resulted in a ball back to Hart and a punt upfield.

You have better players than to resort to that but it can be effective and should see yous through to Quarters at least and then once there anything can happen and you can get results against anyone(see Ireland). You wont lose many games but you wont excite in games either.

You should easily beat Ukraine and sweden(or at v.least do enough to go through) playing proper football but Hodgson like Trappa wont allow this and will continue with same tactics as yesterday.