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Re: The David Brightwell twitter rumour..

Postby Im_Spartacus » Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:43 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Ronaldo's Real Madrid stats are amazing but the only fair comparison is the performance of both, at a top club, in the same league.

Aguero's performance in his 1st Prem season of 30 goals and 12 assists in 48 games was only bettered once by Ronaldo in 6 years at OT. So basically Aguero is already better than Ronaldo was for most of his Prem League career.

He also has a much better record than Ronaldo at international level.


Come on mate, you can make stats look how you want, for example by the time ronaldo was aged 23, he had been at united for 5 years during which time he was evolving from the diving, cheating lollipopping cunt with no end product, towards the amazing player he was in his final season at united, when he was the same age as Aguero was when he joined us last year.

If you are suggesting that Aguero is going to start bagging 50 goals a season now, or even if you argue he could do that in spain with barca or real, you are in dream land. Its not a slight on Aguero to say he has an inferior all round game, it is a basic fact (for example the number of headed goals which makes ronaldo a massive threat even when he doesnt take the set piece)

Plus, tranny played on the wing for united in either a 4 across midfield or wide in a 433, he was never used as an out and out centre forward so its very unfair on both players to compare the two on goalscoring alone.
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Re: The David Brightwell twitter rumour..

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:56 am

Im_Spartacus wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Ronaldo's Real Madrid stats are amazing but the only fair comparison is the performance of both, at a top club, in the same league.

Aguero's performance in his 1st Prem season of 30 goals and 12 assists in 48 games was only bettered once by Ronaldo in 6 years at OT. So basically Aguero is already better than Ronaldo was for most of his Prem League career.

He also has a much better record than Ronaldo at international level.


Come on mate, you can make stats look how you want, for example by the time ronaldo was aged 23, he had been at united for 5 years during which time he was evolving from the diving, cheating lollipopping cunt with no end product, towards the amazing player he was in his final season at united, when he was the same age as Aguero was when he joined us last year.

If you are suggesting that Aguero is going to start bagging 50 goals a season now, or even if you argue he could do that in spain with barca or real, you are in dream land. Its not a slight on Aguero to say he has an inferior all round game, it is a basic fact (for example the number of headed goals which makes ronaldo a massive threat even when he doesnt take the set piece)

Plus, tranny played on the wing for united in either a 4 across midfield or wide in a 433, he was never used as an out and out centre forward so its very unfair on both players to compare the two on goalscoring alone.


I'm not.

I watched Ronaldo play in the flesh on many occasions & he was rarely anything to write home about vs us. (Ronaldo doesn't play centre forward now either btw.) We have all seen him do spectacular stuff but he didn't produce that every week & he played in a team which had very few competitors.

Aguero has just had a season which was better than most of Ronaldo's. That is a fact. Balotelli has just had a tournament which is better than Ronaldo's. Aguero is better at International level than Ronaldo by a good margin.

I don't expect Aguero to knock 50 goals in for City & that's my point. I wouldn't expect Ronaldo to do it either.

People are assuming he would find it as easy as he does for Real. No he wouldn't. He never did & he never will if he comes back.
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Re: The David Brightwell twitter rumour..

Postby Im_Spartacus » Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:11 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
I'm not.

I watched Ronaldo play in the flesh on many occasions & he was rarely anything to write home about vs us. (Ronaldo doesn't play centre forward now either btw.) We have all seen him do spectacular stuff but he didn't produce that every week & he played in a team which had very few competitors.

Aguero has just had a season which was better than most of Ronaldo's. That is a fact. Balotelli has just had a tournament which is better than Ronaldo's. Aguero is better at International level than Ronaldo by a good margin.

I don't expect Aguero to knock 50 goals in for City & that's my point. I wouldn't expect Ronaldo to do it either.

People are assuming he would find it as easy as he does for Real. No he wouldn't. He never did & he never will if he comes back.


I agree with most of what you say, I thought ronaldo always had a stinker against us, and he was sent off twice too from what i remember. Was funny that for all his talents, stephen jordan had his number every time he played. I also believe he is poor in the big games, he never seems to turn up in finals and when it matters. But i know if i was facing a team spearheaded by robaldo, or a team spearheaded by Aguero, or one with balotelli in, which one i would fear the most.

I am more talking about things such as the physical attributes that tranny has which aguero will never have, and which for me gives tranny a more rounded ability to put the ball in the net from different situations, and with more regularity.

Internationally, I sort of sympathise with tranny in that he is the last real star Portugal have left and as a result it seems to all fall to him to do something amazing. For Aguero, i would say going for a kick about with his best mate is a fucking breeze in comparison and makes international football something to be enjoyed, rather than feared, which is where i think ronaldo AND rooney have problems.
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Re: The David Brightwell twitter rumour..

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:47 am

Im_Spartacus wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
I'm not.

I watched Ronaldo play in the flesh on many occasions & he was rarely anything to write home about vs us. (Ronaldo doesn't play centre forward now either btw.) We have all seen him do spectacular stuff but he didn't produce that every week & he played in a team which had very few competitors.

Aguero has just had a season which was better than most of Ronaldo's. That is a fact. Balotelli has just had a tournament which is better than Ronaldo's. Aguero is better at International level than Ronaldo by a good margin.

I don't expect Aguero to knock 50 goals in for City & that's my point. I wouldn't expect Ronaldo to do it either.

People are assuming he would find it as easy as he does for Real. No he wouldn't. He never did & he never will if he comes back.


I agree with most of what you say, I thought ronaldo always had a stinker against us, and he was sent off twice too from what i remember. Was funny that for all his talents, stephen jordan had his number every time he played. I also believe he is poor in the big games, he never seems to turn up in finals and when it matters. But i know if i was facing a team spearheaded by robaldo, or a team spearheaded by Aguero, or one with balotelli in, which one i would fear the most.

I am more talking about things such as the physical attributes that tranny has which aguero will never have, and which for me gives tranny a more rounded ability to put the ball in the net from different situations, and with more regularity.

Internationally, I sort of sympathise with tranny in that he is the last real star Portugal have left and as a result it seems to all fall to him to do something amazing. For Aguero, i would say going for a kick about with his best mate is a fucking breeze in comparison and makes international football something to be enjoyed, rather than feared, which is where i think ronaldo AND rooney have problems.


Ronaldo has some abilities Aguero will never have such as his free kicks & heading ability but Aguero has more to come imo & is potentially better than what we have seen so far. I also think his workrate & desire to be part of a team rather than a solo act shouldn't be taken lightly when comparing the two. I think that is a big weakness with the tranny & it sets Messi well & truly above him.

When you consider that Aguero's already performed to the level of the Rooney's & Ronaldo's in the Premier League, without even having a season to bed in, he must be fucking good; really really good. I think we should wait before deciding where his standing will be in world football & let's see what happens from here.
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Re: The David Brightwell twitter rumour..

Postby twosips » Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:58 am

Im_Spartacus wrote:
chips wrote:
Messi is, tranny is not. Compare the age of Aguero and tranny, Aguero will be better than tranny very soon, just you wait.


Dont be silly. Aguero will never have the ability of tranny, he doesnt run with the ball much, he rarely skins a player, and he hardly (if ever) scores with his head. Aguero has certain talents, but they amount to being a decent centre forward, not someone who can single handedly carry a team by pulling goals out of nothing.

I dont mind people having their opinion, but yours is utter blue blinkered shite mate.

Tranny is a fucking phenomenon. Not sure i would like to go as far as seeing him in a city shirt, but at least be fucking honest when you are appraising players, even if they are ex munes.


Ronaldo rarely skins players. He honestly rarely does. He can beat one at most, but you don't see him going on amazing solo runs. No more than Aguero does anyway. And Aguero often skins his player and will do so more next season. The head thing is irrelevant. Messi hardly ever scores with his head. Shrug.

Ronaldo is better than Aguero at the moment, but not for those reasons in my opinion. Aguero could easily become as feared definitely. Very close anyway.
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Re: The David Brightwell twitter rumour..

Postby sheikh it all about » Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:00 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Ronaldo has some abilities Aguero will never have such as his free kicks & heading ability but Aguero has more to come imo & is potentially better than what we have seen so far. I also think his workrate & desire to be part of a team rather than a solo act shouldn't be taken lightly when comparing the two.


This is the feeling of lots of us, I am sure. Tranny is arguably a bit ahead of Sergio on ability at this moment in time. However he's a vain, egotistical fucker who would spread bad feeling and prostitute the club. Aguero, on the other hand, is a decent guy who works hard to fit in. A brilliant first season and maybe 30+ goals next year. Taking everything into account he 's a far better fit for City.
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Re: The David Brightwell twitter rumour..

Postby chips » Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:13 am

I'm not going to argue with you spartacus, I'm just saying wait and see. Nothing to do with being a blue, I know tranny is an amazing player, but give it a few years and I will dig up this thread. After all, trannys kryptonite is argentinian blood ;)
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Re: The David Brightwell twitter rumour..

Postby Im_Spartacus » Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:22 am

chips wrote:I'm not going to argue with you spartacus, I'm just saying wait and see. Nothing to do with being a blue, I know tranny is an amazing player, but give it a few years and I will dig up this thread. After all, trannys kryptonite is argentinian blood ;)


Fair play, hopefully we can read this thread in a couple of years time and i would love to say i was wrong cos i love the little feller
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Re: The David Brightwell twitter rumour..

Postby Rag_hater » Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:53 am

chips wrote:Aguero is greater than the tranny. He will overtake him soon enough.



Hope your'e right.However Tranny won FIFA world player of year when he was 23.Our Sergio is now 24.
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Re: The David Brightwell twitter rumour..

Postby Plain Speaking » Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:03 am

Forget United's debt, supposing Tranny had decided he wouldnt mind returning to Manchester to live, and Madrid want/need to cash in.
Would we prefer to see him go to the rags or ourselves?
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Re: The David Brightwell twitter rumour..

Postby dazby » Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:46 am

I'm much happier hating him than supporting him.
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Re: The David Brightwell twitter rumour..

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:44 am

Plain Speaking wrote:Forget United's debt, supposing Tranny had decided he wouldnt mind returning to Manchester to live, and Madrid want/need to cash in.
Would we prefer to see him go to the rags or ourselves?


Rags.
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Re: The David Brightwell twitter rumour..

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:46 am

NO MORE RAGS.



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Re: The David Brightwell twitter rumour..

Postby Superbia » Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:40 pm

I'll sort this once and for all Cristiano Ronaldo=Bastard Sergio Leonel Kun Aguero=City legend and hero
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Re: The David Brightwell twitter rumour..

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:31 pm

Superbia wrote:I'll sort this once and for all Cristiano Ronaldo=Bastard Sergio Leonel Kun Aguero=City legend and hero

I'm glad I read that 15 times to see what you mean't. Quoting it is much easier though.
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Re: The David Brightwell twitter rumour..

Postby The Italian Job » Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:50 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
Superbia wrote:I'll sort this once and for all Cristiano Ronaldo=Bastard Sergio Leonel Kun Aguero=City legend and hero

I'm glad I read that 15 times to see what you mean't. Quoting it is much easier though.

That's where punctuation comes in handy.
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Re: The David Brightwell twitter rumour..

Postby john68 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:27 pm

PUNCTUATION?????

That'd take half the fun of this site away. It'd be like banning the Septics for their English.
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