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FAO Ted - re Adam Johnson

Postby ant london » Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:23 pm

Just found this via Newsnow....actually very good and pretty much sums up my feelings about Johnson to a great extent.

I've watched the review of the season a few times in full now and I did notice how many goals and assists he contributed, especially in the context of the game time/starts he had. BUT I also remember him frustrating the shit out of me every time he'd played well as a cameo, got a start and then was anonymously crap in the main.

I was moaning to Sis de Fu that he's a flat track bully who only turns up to knock in a spectacular 4th/5th/6th goal when we played Norwich at Carrow Rd near the end of the season. The season review exposes this as somewhat of a myth but I pretty much share the author of this blogged articles concluding views re AJ....he needs to produce and now....else if we get a good offer he'll be out, which will be a shame.

http://www.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/Blog/ind ... m-johnson/?

The Mystery Of Adam Johnson
Posted on July 25, 2012 by David Mooney
All good myths should follow the same pattern. They begin with a few murmurings by a couple of people and, before you know it, the whole thing has snowballed out of control, there’s mass hysteria and, more often than not, the Daily Mail is involved somewhere or other. In this case, thankfully, they’re not embroiled in it, but the myth has quickly gained momentum like the rumours of a football’s extra-marital affair with [[SENTENCE DELETED DUE TO LIBEL ERROR]].

This one concerns City’s left footed, right winger: Adam Johnson. I appreciate at this point I’m going to divide a lot of fans. Not literally, I should point out, I’m not going to be slicing anybody in two. Not today, at any rate (sorry to disappoint). But what I am going to say is probably going to go against the grain for many blues: Adam Johnson is not as bad as a lot of fans would have you believe.

And, yes, I have watched every game he played last season (with the exception of the 3-3 draw with Sunderland because I didn’t get in from work in time to get to the ground). For the record, I don’t think he had the best season, either; I actually think he was poor, but he was by no means as bad as a lot of fans seem to think.

A rather unscientific poll on my Twitter account this week produced the result of 89% of the sample of fans who replied to me expressed the opinion that he’s not good enough for City’s first team. Most said his attitude was poor, he doesn’t make a big enough contribution to the team and his workrate wasn’t as high as it should be for a top level team. Just over 2% said he looked the spitting image of Ian Curtis.

As the myth goals, he only ever scores ‘unimportant’ goals (however, when you’ve won the league on goal difference, I’d maintain every goal was a necessity). He’s the man that joins the action from the bench when the game is safe and scores a good effort to make it a five rather than a four goal winning margin. He doesn’t come looking for the ball. He’s often not involved in games for large spells, sometimes without even touching the ball.

I can’t argue with his lack of influence in most of the games he appeared in – he seems to be a shadow of the man who was beating full-backs at will and running at defenders with speed when he first arrived. In fact, in the whole of the last season, I remember him doing it twice: Once to set up Balotelli at home to Bolton and the other to ‘win’ a penalty against Fulham (and by ‘win’, I mean dive, because he made sure he connected with the defender and, no matter what commentators will have you believe “contact” doesn’t “entitle a player to go down” – it’s a contact sport). But after that: Nothing. Zip. Zilch.

This could be false data, though. Both of the times I remember his runs have resulted in goals; perhaps my memory has edited out the ones that led to nothing at all. In the same way, they say it often feels like years pass by much quicker when we’re older – do they feel like that or are we just doing more stuff our memory decides to chop out of the final edit (mundane things like work)?

Anyway, back to the football.

The goals accusation is a little harsh. Here are the games that he netted in last season and the score that his goal made the game: Blackburn (a, 1-0); Aston Villa (h, 2-0); Wolves (a, 1-1); Wolves (h, 3-1); Norwich (h, 5-1); Stoke (h, 2-0) and Norwich (a, 6-1). Seven assists (in all competitions) then need to be added to those seven goals to make up his 2011-12 stats. On the face of it, not a huge contribution from an attacking player, but a little bit more in-depth review says that conclusion could be a tad unfair.

Competitively, he started just 16 games and came on as a substitute in 21 more, featuring in a total of 37 of a possible 54 matches. He actually missed more games than he started. Four of his seven goals came in games he started, not when he came on as an impact substitute. Looking deeper, when coming on as a sub, he played less than 20 minutes in 13 of his 21 games. He was on the pitch for 1566 of a possible 4860 minutes. When averaged out, that becomes a goal or an assist every 112 minutes.

By way of a comparison, Sergio Aguero made 41 goals or assists in all competitions last season, playing 3470 minutes: Giving him a goal or an assist ever 85 minutes. Not a huge amount of difference, given that, for a fair few of Johnson’s substitute appearances, City were in the process of killing off the game, rather than looking to get in front.

All of this, however, raises the question: Why doesn’t Adam Johnson get more game time if, statistically, he’s not too far behind someone who had a brilliant first season in the league? He puts in important goals, provides important assists with little game time, yet he barely seems to get a look in.

And it’s a funny situation because most fans, myself included, would have expected he’d contributed a lot less to the season than he has. It doesn’t feel like he does that much when he’s on the pitch. He doesn’t seem to influence the game, he doesn’t seem to be a threat for City and he doesn’t seem like he touches the ball all that often. It just turns out that, when he does, he’s not as wasteful as we thought.

But therein lies the problem. By having a player who’s not involved for large spells of the game, the team are, effectively, playing with a man down. Ok, so he’s still somebody that needs marking and he still performs his defensive responsibilities – something which he has improved since Roberto Mancini publicly criticised. But his strength is having the ball at his feet, running at defenders and being dangerous in and around the opposition’s penalty area, yet he might only do that once every 30 minutes.

The very best football teams are greater than the sum of their parts. That’s to say, when every part of the machine is playing to the best of their ability, if you were somehow able to quantify that and add it up, that total would be lower than the overall performance rating of the team. In other words, David’s needlessly overcomplicating a very simple metaphor. Again.

The problem City are facing is that, when Adam Johnson’s in the team, he presents something of an optical illusion. An anomaly. He’s providing the results more regularly than expected, but he’s not putting in good performances and hasn’t put in a top class performance for a long time. With him on the pitch, it often feels like the team isn’t greater than the sum of its parts because he far too frequently represents a void that isn’t being filled.

And this may seem like I’m being critical of him, but I don’t want it to be as harsh as it may be coming across. I like him; I think he’s a good, dangerous player on his day. I think he’s not been given a decent chance to be that player in a long time, with a few fleeting appearances from month to month.

He’s got a lot of potential – and I don’t mean that in the way that word is often used. I don’t mean that he could be a brilliant player in three or four years when he has more experience; I’m not talking about long-term potential. Rather, I mean he could be a brilliant player next week. He has the potential to take on three men and beat them and he has the potential to do it right now, he just hasn’t lived up to that for 18 months.

He’s not helped that City’s style of play doesn’t necessarily lend itself to a tricky winger. The blues like to keep possession, move the ball quickly and drag their opponents all over the pitch. The attacking players tend to like to swap positions and move around to get their opposition’s defence all over the place, and that’s not particularly helpful to the man who wants to hug the touchline and make jinking runs in and out of the full-back position. But that doesn’t mean there isn’t room for him in the system; Roberto Mancini has built a flexible team to be able to change it around when necessary.

The sad thing is, Adam Johnson is probably living on borrowed time. He has the ability, he has provided better than he gets credit for, but we haven’t seen his best in far too long.

If I was the manager, would I sell him? Well, yes, providing a good offer came along. However, I wouldn’t be seeking to remove him from the books; he still has a lot to offer City and we don’t need to sell him for selling sake.

Even so, next season I’d like to see the Adam Johnson that City signed, rather than the one that’s been pulling on the blue shirt for the last 18 months. Now’s the time for him to step it up and start putting in the performances. His chances are getting fewer and far between; if he doesn’t do it soon, his opportunity will have passed.

I disagree that he’s not good enough for City’s team, I think he is.

But only when he’s playing well.
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Re: FAO Ted - re Adam Johnson

Postby bigblue » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:10 pm

I think he makes a great impact sub for our team. Not a starter, but can get a late goal when defenses are tired and he doesn't have to defend to opposition.
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Re: FAO Ted - re Adam Johnson

Postby Goataldo » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:15 pm

Nice piece. The lack of spell check in one who writes so well is pretty fucking irksome, mind.

I pretty much agree with all in that, and wasn't too surprised by Johnno's stats. I've been well frustrated by him, but got the fear about the 17th time that Scouse1 transfer seemed to be gathering pace.

Good song too. Matchwinner. Must stay.
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Re: FAO Ted - re Adam Johnson

Postby Crossie » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:20 pm

bigblue wrote:I think he makes a great impact sub for our team. Not a starter, but can get a late goal when defenses are tired and he doesn't have to defend to opposition.



The statistics show otherwise good man!

What stands out is that we don't play with wingers, we play with 4 or 5 players who can all swap positions and that really screws up opposition defenses, especially if man marking.

Johnson represents whats wrong with English footballers.
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Re: FAO Ted - re Adam Johnson

Postby Slim » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:27 am

Subjective statistics. Fanboy piece masquerading as an unbiased assessment. If it was by RH we'd be clapping our hands at his latest masterpiece.
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Re: FAO Ted - re Adam Johnson

Postby kinkylola » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:30 am

I think he suffers a lot from not getting any game time as a winger on the left. I mean, that's what he is. He's a winger. He's not an attacking midfielder like silva or nasri, who swap wings and drift inside to play make and drive into the box. But that's what we are looking for. We are trying to mold him into that, and maybe it will make him a better all-round player. But as far as specialized wingers go, i think he's very good already. He's also the only 'winger' in our team (because we don't use 'em). We also don't cross much from the byline, or from deep for that matter ... so a lot of his ability doesn't get used. He has a good shot and good acceleration, with very good dribbling ability. That's my assessment. He is an upgraded version of martin petrov (which is not an insult). Can you imagine asking petrov to play a role like silva or nasri, drifting inside? Or playing petrov on the right? (gasp!)

All that being said, he needs to learn to play in our system, and improve his workrate ... or he'll be shipped out. I'll look at that as unfortunate, but I won't be surprised if it happens. He'll be an excellent player in a different system, I don't doubt that one bit.

Some players can adapt to new roles very well, some can't ... shit, some players can't even adapt to living in the north vs. the south.
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Re: FAO Ted - re Adam Johnson

Postby Moonchesteri » Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:57 am

Good article and I agree with it.
But I wouldn't sell him unless we get offer which is too good to resist. He's English (homegrown quota and all), he's good squad player, he's different player than what we got in our team and exciting to watch. must stay for me.
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Re: FAO Ted - re Adam Johnson

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:08 am

It's fair comment re Johnson's output (apart from suggesting he doesn't try to take players on which he sometimes does, & then gets slaughtered if he loses the ball like all other wingers in the world do half the time).

And that is the problem so far imo. He's not on the pitch as a winger, he's there as a chess piece, so if he tries to beat three men & loses the ball, we're not geared up to win it back & feed him to do it again, resulting in a cross like the rags would be, we are lined up for him to play the ball inside or to wait until a fullback runs past him & then play him in. He is allowed to take a shot if the option is on, which he sometimes does, & scores.

AJ said last season that he thinks he can contribute more by moving around but Mancini wants him to stay wide & he's the boss, & I've seen Mancini go ape at him on several occasions when he's come inside.

So basically AJ's role in the team has been to pull the oppo defence wide by being there. Not to terrify them & turn their fullback inside out, just be there whilst everyone else does their stuff in the middle. If he runs at defenders & skins them, then it's ok. If however he gets tackled, he has just ruined the master plan by giving the ball away & everyone will shout at him. It's a catch 22 for AJ, but Bob doesn't care as he just uses him for tactical reasons.

For half the game, he'll only get passes at the halfway line or when he's marked. He has two choices; try to do something spectacular & get slaughtered if he fucks up, or play a simple pass to Yaya Toure etc or the fullback. Most of the time he chooses the 2nd option. Then at half time people say " Johnson has done fuck all". 2nd half he thinks " I'll just try a run " gets tackled & its " get the cunt off " whilst Bob jumps up, arms waving.

Watch Silva when Mancini gives him that job; he totally does fuck all whatsoever then thinks "fuck this" & moves inside. Then he starts to play. Imo, AJ could also do that & would be as good or better than Nasri. But he's not allowed to.

Or at least he wasn't. At the end of the season & in the one pre season game, Bob allowed AJ to play occasionally in different areas. It was nonsense pre season (playing left wing with two dwarves up front who don't even look for crosses coming in) but the fact that he's again allowed him to play a different role could suggest that he is going to start trying him as a player rather than as a chess piece. Of course we need a striker on the pitch who is playing the same game.

If that happens then it's upto AJ to make the most of it. If he can't he's gone.

If however Bob continues to use him purely as a tactical decoy, there is no future for him & he is ruining his career by staying at City.
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Re: FAO Ted - re Adam Johnson

Postby Rag_hater » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:45 am

The way it looks to me with Adam is that he tries to do what SWP did and although I think he is a better dribbler than SWP was (is) he does not have the pace.He doesn't position himself as well as SWP did IMO and, until these faults are eliminated from his game I don't think he will be a regular starter.Nontheless I think he is great to have in the last 25 mins when we are winning.
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Re: FAO Ted - re Adam Johnson

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:03 pm

Rag_hater wrote:The way it looks to me with Adam is that he tries to do what SWP did and although I think he is a better dribbler than SWP was (is) he does not have the pace.He doesn't position himself as well as SWP did IMO and, until these faults are eliminated from his game I don't think he will be a regular starter.Nontheless I think he is great to have in the last 25 mins when we are winning.


SWP was right footed playing on the right though. AJ is left footed, playing on the right, so can't do what SWP did without crossing on his wrong foot & SWP used to have a centre forward to cross to who was expecting a cross. AJ has nobody like that so it's unfair to compare, as I'm saying. He is being asked to do an entirely different job & it's fucking difficult to look good doing it.
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Re: FAO Ted - re Adam Johnson

Postby Rag_hater » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:19 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Rag_hater wrote:The way it looks to me with Adam is that he tries to do what SWP did and although I think he is a better dribbler than SWP was (is) he does not have the pace.He doesn't position himself as well as SWP did IMO and, until these faults are eliminated from his game I don't think he will be a regular starter.Nontheless I think he is great to have in the last 25 mins when we are winning.


SWP was right footed playing on the right though. AJ is left footed, playing on the right, so can't do what SWP did without crossing on his wrong foot & SWP used to have a centre forward to cross to who was expecting a cross. AJ has nobody like that so it's unfair to compare, as I'm saying. He is being asked to do an entirely different job & it's fucking difficult to look good doing it.


Don't think him being on the right, mainly, is as much of an issue as some make it out to be.Firstly I think he is as all footballers should be,two footed(his left may be stronger,but his right is more than just a bit of redundant flesh).Also he is quite often moved to the left and also there is a stat I could dig up if your interested which shows how much he shoots on his right so I think the argument made to say he plays on his unnatural side is wrong.Also he has Edin and Mario to aim at who are not midgets.He has grown on me as a player but there are faults in his game that other people point out and I think until he starts making less of those mistakes he will stay on the fringes.
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Re: FAO Ted - re Adam Johnson

Postby Spurge » Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:39 pm

I'd hate to see Johnson in anything other than a city shirt. He has a natural talent, can pick a pass, turn a defender inside out, finish with aplomb - but just not consistently enough.

As mentioned in this thread, the season DVD shows some class finishes, some defence splitting passeds from him, we just need to see him apply himself 100%. He had some issues with Mancini last season, hopefully the can be resolved, but if he's going to be a success and a regular at City it's up to him to prove himself.
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Re: FAO Ted - re Adam Johnson

Postby Alioune DVToure » Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:18 pm

If Johnson contributes the same this season as he did last, I'll be happy enough. Excellent squad player.
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Re: FAO Ted - re Adam Johnson

Postby Tokyo Blue » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:40 am

ant london wrote:I was moaning


Really? You surprise me.
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Re: FAO Ted - re Adam Johnson

Postby ant london » Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:39 pm

Tokyo Blue wrote:
ant london wrote:I was moaning


Really? You surprise me.




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