Ted Hughes wrote:Mancio4ever wrote:Tokyo Blue wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:Imo, it is ten times more important than signing some 29 year old cunt face from Arsenal.
This.
I don't know if that was a subtle way by Ted to indirectly reply to my neverending disfavor at the average performances of the tv pundit that the Club rate a worth sporting director, while he insists to snub my attempts to debate with him on this important issue for the Club enhancement.
but in case I feel compelled to remind that I have been amongst firsts to voice clear and loud my disagreement at the idea of signing a 29 injury prone, never mind for big money.
No it wasn't but I haven't read your post on Marwood & can't be arsed debating it anyway as I'm on holiday surrounded by mountains, fjords, alcohol, fish & blondes.
My opinion on people who slag Marwood is that they are slagging Khaldoon who has had years to sack him & Shekh Mansour who has had years to sack Khaldoon for his incompetence in not sacking Marwood. If Marwood is incompetent then so are they, there is no excuse.
I think our transfer dealings are absolutely spectacular, so I won't be slagging Marwood off but if Khaldoon chooses to sack him, then imo he has failed too as he should have done it ages ago, not left him in charge all this time.
Imo, none of you have a clue what Marwood has or hasn't done, anymore than I do & just respond to hearsay. I don't consider myself well enough informed on Marwood's abilities to make a judgement & I don't consider anyone on here to know any better than I do.
But once again; Khaldoon DOES know exactly what Marwood does, so if Marwood is rubbish at his job, so is Khaldoon.
Chuffed at learning You're having great time, Tony.
You and everyone on the board know that Your opinion has - well deservedly - earned my unconditioned respect along the time.
but then again Your point on this issue is weak and - if I humbly may - weird. Ted Hughes can truly do better than singing "I'm German, I love they way Deutschland stands, thus I fully endorse Hitler".
Every single City fan will forever love HH Sheikh Mansour for all the wonders he has done, does and will do for this noble Club.
I had ALWAYS, even when some juror was still out, said that the Sheikh greatest gift to MCFC has been to appoint such a top man, professional and manager like dr. Khaldoon Khalifa al Mubarak to chairman.
but plea to sentiments does not change reality which stands as follow:
a) Owners invest in projects and care of that they are gonna fullfilled;
b) Chairmen, sometimes involve themselves in the drafting of a master plan for the projects, and mainly look after their running down:
c) CEOs mainly draft the master plan and run it down, taking overall responsability of the results of designed operations;
d) directors take responsability of operational area they are charged!
now, once some fog has been taken away, we can look at FACTS, which have nothing to spare with armchair ITK-ing. And FACTS are that the sporting director of MCFC, a football Club who aim themselves to global domination, miserably failed to offload each and every redundant personnel from 1st team, bar Boateng, disputably redundant rather than whetted by the German rags. the list of those facts includes the epic fail of not being able to offload a striker of Adebayor caratage, not even for the peanuts of 5mil as unanimously reported by the media: and I don't give a s**t if Adebayor hold a lucrative contract, signed by BM btw, because that is why an employer pays a 6 figures salary for! otherwise I'll definitely apply for a position of senior director at Goldman Sachs.
the picture does not truly looks brighter if You look at the purchasing operations, either before and after Roberto Mancini has driven the Club amongst the elite where every top player aim to go. unless You were so naif to consider the signing of Yaya Toure and David Silva due to his negotiating skills.
as far as the establishment of a global network of accademies - which seems to be his only strenght to hold on the Chairman's esteem - I'd say it would safe to keep the jury out for a couple of years more because, as it stands, it would be hard to evaluate where the power of the project and relevant huge investments end and where the director of football ability starts.
as a wise man recently wrote
Someone said he wants Jim Cassell back here, why ? He's working setting up progammes abroad & seems to be doing well at it. He's a good organiser, not a top football coach. It's time we had the best people involved in the football side of things.
and Ted Mate, considering that You are currently well deservedly sidetracked by fjords & blondes, I copy herebelow my two last post on the matter, for Your easy reference. as usual, it will take some of Your kind lenience, to get through my poor and faulty spelling of Your own language, but I trust on You. as usual.
Mancio4ever wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:We had to pay over the odds wages in order to persuade these players to sign for City because we weren't a fashionable club to sign for at the time. They, quite rightly, don't see why they should take a cut in wages, when they have been ready & willing to play for the club & have been discarded.
The clubs who are interested in them do not pay wages of that level & the players involved are not good enough to merit those clubs breaking their pay structure, so either City, or the player, has to sacrifice money in order for them to move on.
That's why we can't shift them.
My beloved, extremely respected Ted,
the third reason why I love You so much (besides Your very remarkable understanding of football and Your genuine vision for a romantic way to preserve its original beauty and charme) is the amazing way You, sometimes, make and stand by Your points.
while the first sentence preamble is a no brainer, I am amazed by the way You
pretend not to see that one of the differences which distinguishes a global top club from a just nationwide midtable one is the ability to deal with and sort out those kind of issues.
the likes of AC Milan, fucking Juventus, fucking Rags, fucking Bayern, RM and Barca have been quite profitably offloaded their highly paid scraps (become redundant either by age or changing of playing style/management) for ages to the so called lesser clubs, sometimes satellite clubs. In a way, that is what defines the power and influence of a club and - most of all - what defines the job itself of a sporting director and his/her ability to earn a top salary.
I can concede that in the very last years the influence of finance on football has peaked to levels that even those football aristocrats struggle to cope with, but yet again You don't need to pay a senior director salary to have a bloke only capable to buy players (when he succeed to) at twice the market value and sell them at one fifth of the market value,contributing to pay the remainder of their inflated wages when they become redundant.
every Mancio4ever or Beefy of this world can do that for a normal employee wage and, more seriously, I am convinced that a Ted Hughes will certainly do better than what MCFC is getting from is amateur tv pundit, even providing that said Ted Hughes don't features the necessarily influence on the market that an employer would presume when hiring a sporting director.
and to make the point even stronger, [highlight]I'd like to draw Your attention to the fact that the Italian managers, even the most senior and established ones, are well used to share decisions on market strategies with the Club's Owners and even with sporting directors: it lasts in the tradidion of Italian football at club level: so that, if Mancini has felt the need to speak out his discontent for 2 consecutive seasons, You can rest assured that it is an issue: otherwise - different from the use of British and north European managers, he will be more than happy to have an effective sporting director who acheive the targets given[/highlight], and previously agreed with Owner and Chairman: targets which can be reasonably presumed to consist in a couple of options for each role to be covered.
I will never get tired of calling after that issue and I am pretty sure that, as happened for other previous matters, in a year or two, there will be plenty of voices pointing out that issue.
Mancio4ever wrote:very unfortunately since I left the Greek Philosopher at the airport I've been so bloody engaged in mess that I couldnt even update that thread with some very nice shots.
so very roughly and YOU would pardon me several spelling mistakes:
a) FFPR ain't a threat insofar progression of the project/certainty of partecipation to UCL/actual chances of getting major penalties are concerned. althought, that does not diminish the point that Owners may deem to run the Club impeccably, having designed it as Flagship of AD enhancement. And rightly so.
b) I am not a rag_like of fan by any means, which in turn means, that I am perfectly fine even with a couple seasons of serious challanges ending with no pots. But that won't lessen of an ouze what posted by Doomie/Ant in respect inability of living up to his role of Brian Marwood, senior Officer and member of a restricted executive board at one of the top football Clubs of the world.
To stay top, particularly nowadays in a very very competitive world, need to have all key personnel fit the responsabilities they are in charge of. MCFC is no longer in the need to sign a CB whatsoever, rather than a midfielder or a forwarder whatsoever: instead to step up every season a step more, need to be able to get, the very few targets selected by the manager, f****g signed! and possibly f****g before the beginning of the sole period of a season when a top Club can work properly to set refining of game plans: the preseason.
Furthermore, what always had difined the status of a top managed Club, amongst top established Clubs (sportive results wise), had been the capability to sell out/offload deadwoods quickly,efficiently, profitably. Under the Marwood responsability, MCFC seem to still be in the need to contribute in paying wages of players loaned out, to pay one and the half the market value for new acquisitions while taking a full market window to have, eventually, them signed at the very end. To make the story short MCFC, market capibility wise, appear to be still standing at the beginning of the Mark Hughes era, and possibly some of the slags Hughes got for his action on the the market would deserve a more reasoned rethinking and reassessment.
MCFC is Club of top noblety, running a project of fair play, backed by a magnificent Owner and the most faithful and loving Fans in the world: all the personel, starting from senior officiers, must be up for the challanged of the GOOD vs. the EVIL, as I see it in a very romantic, epic and possibly a tad peculiar way.
and that is why I ve been ranted against the amateurship of that bloke in the last 2 years.
Last but not least CEOs and Chairmans do not share responsabilities with the directors that they put in charge of designed responsabilities: they take the FULL responsability of the ultimate results and compliance to the bussness plans they have drawn: but that do not means that their directors can be/act not up to the required qualities/abilities just because there will be an ultimate and superior instance above them.
Once said that, I confirm that I very much prefer not to sign anyone and save money for the next chance, even at risk of missing some acheivement, rather than throwing money at contingency players who hardly will apport any improvent to the team.
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