England's FIFA Ranking

[DoomMerchant]

Where are the US in the rankings?

3rd i think...i can't recall...something like that.

Oh, wait...36th.

and you couldn't even beat us last time out. Doh!

36th isn't bad in a sport that other countries actually play!

yep. we seem to be really struggling in the Olympics as well, don't we.

Oddly, several American sports leagues such as Baseball and Basketball contain a lot of players from outside of the US and A.

Anytime you want to bring some facts to a conversation, i'm glad to discuss them chief.

cheers

Michael Johnson thinks you're stuggling in sport in general as a result of the college season system and lack of world competition. That's a fact. Jamie Staff (former UK gold medalist cycler/BMXer) who is now a coach of the US cycling team has said one of the hardest changes he is still in the process of making is in the mentality of the riders who just want to be the best in the US rather than the best in the world. There's a strong isolationist mentality amongst a lot of your compatriots and it can be counter productive when the rest of the world moves on in some sports. (You're on the rise in footballing (soccer) terms though, no one can deny that).

alright. those are interesting points for sure. I think American athletes, whether it is team or individual sports, are put through a system that favors rugged individualism, where local rivalries are often more important than a "world view" and maybe that creates a myopic view for some sports. I couldn't say for sure. It's odd in that we have a really "good" college soccer league in the ACC, which is the Atlantic Coast Conference, who attract some really solid players and their league matches are absolutely fun to watch, but those kids path is then through MLS, which is improving as well, but if they were so scary good or had the potential, and i'm sure many have potential, they should be sent into a different program than a collegiate one imho.

At any rate, Thank You for writing something intelligent in response.

Just for the record...Michael Johnson's "opinion" is not "fact." It is, in fact, no pun intended, the *opposite* of fact, in that, is it, without a shred of doubt, an *opinion*, as you clearly stated.

And a mighty mighty wink to you my friend.

[Chinners]

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[Dameerto]

It was a fact that he has an opinion on it - not saying what he said was gospel. He's an intelligent articulate and thoughtful pundit that the Beeb have used since he retired from running, so I tend to have a lot of time for what he says.

[Evenmydoghatesunited]

Utter baldricks. Tell me honestly anyone even if you're visitor from outer space if England were to play in a world league who would put us ahead of Italians ahead of Netherlands ahead Greeks ahead of brazil?

[Pretty Boy Lee]

yep. we seem to be really struggling in the Olympics as well, don't we.

Oddly, several American sports leagues such as Baseball and Basketball contain a lot of players from outside of the US and A.

Anytime you want to bring some facts to a conversation, i'm glad to discuss them chief.

cheers

I don't think it's a lack of foreign players that irks foreign fans. I think it's more the sheer arrogance of calling teams world champions when only American teams (maybe the odd Canadian one too) compete in the competition.

For example do Japan not have a decent baseball league? It would be a lot less arrogant if say the American winners played against winners from other countries and they called that the world series.

[LookMumImOnMCF.net]

Think it's about time they do away with FIFA rankings.

What purpose do they serve other than to promote controversy? I heard that if by some ridiculous fluke all teams in the group stages of the Euros end on the same points, head-to-head, goal difference, goals scored etc then rankings come in to play - but this just makes them more absurd.

Combine this with the fact that the FIFA rankings serve no commercial purpose (I mean, do they even have an official sponsor?!) which, let's face it, is all football is for now, they become completely redundant.

[Alioune DVToure]

Think it's about time they do away with FIFA rankings.

What purpose do they serve other than to promote controversy? I heard that if by some ridiculous fluke all teams in the group stages of the Euros end on the same points, head-to-head, goal difference, goals scored etc then rankings come in to play - but this just makes them more absurd.

Combine this with the fact that the FIFA rankings serve no commercial purpose (I mean, do they even have an official sponsor?!) which, let's face it, is all football is for now, they become completely redundant.

Seeding?

[Socrates]

Think it's about time they do away with FIFA rankings.

What purpose do they serve other than to promote controversy? I heard that if by some ridiculous fluke all teams in the group stages of the Euros end on the same points, head-to-head, goal difference, goals scored etc then rankings come in to play - but this just makes them more absurd.

Combine this with the fact that the FIFA rankings serve no commercial purpose (I mean, do they even have an official sponsor?!) which, let's face it, is all football is for now, they become completely redundant.

Seeding?

work permits!

[Slim]

Read it & weep foreigners.

Even with Danny Wellbeck & Ashley Young, we're still 4th.

Imagine if we actually had a team ? Then you'd all be fucked.

Hahaha, I like it.

However in Europe alone, Spain, Portugal, Italy, France, Germany and Holland all above us in terms of teams and probably results. I can't understand how Brazil are out of the top 10. And US do not deserve to be back in 36th either Doomie if it's based off some weird results calculator, if every 4 years you are part of the best 32 in the world then how is 36 acceptable?

Oh yeah, and if the 32 who qualify are not the best 32, then blame Blatter for that one too.

[DoomMerchant]

Read it & weep foreigners.

Even with Danny Wellbeck & Ashley Young, we're still 4th.

Imagine if we actually had a team ? Then you'd all be fucked.

Hahaha, I like it.

However in Europe alone, Spain, Portugal, Italy, France, Germany and Holland all above us in terms of teams and probably results. I can't understand how Brazil are out of the top 10. And US do not deserve to be back in 36th either Doomie if it's based off some weird results calculator, if every 4 years you are part of the best 32 in the world then how is 36 acceptable?

Oh yeah, and if the 32 who qualify are not the best 32, then blame Blatter for that one too.

i couldn't agree more. I do not have a broner for the US men's team, tho i fucking love the women.

the problem i have with the US team is that we end up being like Fat Sam's Bolton or something...grafters who get lucky and do some shit sometimes, but there's little verve or skill or fun. Even when we get our "best' attacking players together we do fuckall. Yawn.

[razor400]

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