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Re: Rodwell

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:35 pm

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@ Mods.
I am genuinely trying my very best to stay away of this Marwood argument since I promised it yesterday.
Unfortunatelly, since that promise, I continue to read posts of people who have serious issue to face the factual reality and/or try to cover their lack of arguments with snobbery.

Now I must even see the ABOVE INFLAMATORY and PROVOCATIVE POST.
I seem to remember that once there was a report button, but now I can see it.

therefore I am formally reporting the post above as deemed to create inimity and ignite the feud, without adding anything factual to the debate.
scrolling up the cronology of the thread You shall find plenty of evidece of the fact that only point that I made throught the whole thread is the quality of the man paid by the Club with the responsability of Sporting Director.
I can have possibly stated that I quite like Rodwell as player, while I certainly used the signing of him as further evidence that the inability of the sporting director to sign any player was not due to the fact that he was upon instuction to save money.

I fully expect respect for my opinion and active moderation, in order to avoid futher polemics.

thanks for attention, assistance and prompt action


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Re: Rodwell

Postby aaron bond » Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:39 pm

I see an incredible exit speech coming up...
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Re: Rodwell

Postby Alioune DVToure » Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:44 pm

M4E, you seem like a good guy but you really shouldn't take a bit of piss-taking to heart.

If I were you I'd take your (my?) own advice and take a breather for a day or two.

Unless, of course, you actually were trying to be funny. In which case, well done!
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Re: Rodwell

Postby GoatersRightShin » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:00 pm

Can people not see that if we signed de Rossi, van Persie and Martinez that we'd have about 15 world class players who all believe they should be in the first team. This would lead to squad disruption, players losing confidence and a constant need to keep changing the team even when winning

Last season we had a team that won the league with an unbelievable points total. It was only down to the rags ability to grind out results that we didn't walk the league. We, therefore, dont need to make massive signings.

Mancini is instead looking for good young players who won't expect to be in the first team but will do a job when needed and will improve my training with world class players every day.

In this respect I believe rodwell to be a great signing - yes slightly expensive but that is the inflation that is always going to be associated with city because teams know we have money and will pay unreasonable prices. That's something we will have to live with.
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Re: Rodwell

Postby Blue Blood » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:04 pm

Mancio4ever wrote:
london blue 2 wrote:
Mase wrote:What the hell is going on?

We signed a decent young player and some Italian guy has lost his marbles...


@ Mods.
I am genuinely trying my very best to stay away of this Marwood argument since I promised it yesterday.
Unfortunatelly, since that promise, I continue to read posts of people who have serious issue to face the factual reality and/or try to cover their lack of arguments with snobbery.

Now I must even see the ABOVE INFLAMATORY and PROVOCATIVE POST.
I seem to remember that once there was a report button, but now I can see it.

therefore I am formally reporting the post above as deemed to create inimity and ignite the feud, without adding anything factual to the debate.
scrolling up the cronology of the thread You shall find plenty of evidece of the fact that only point that I made throught the whole thread is the quality of the man paid by the Club with the responsability of Sporting Director.
I can have possibly stated that I quite like Rodwell as player, while I certainly used the signing of him as further evidence that the inability of the sporting director to sign any player was not due to the fact that he was upon instuction to save money.

I fully expect respect for my opinion and active moderation, in order to avoid futher polemics.

thanks for attention, assistance and prompt action


Sand is firmly lodged in the vagina it seems (or a sense of humour is coming through)

Kudos though. Very amusing.
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Re: Rodwell

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:05 pm

Can somebody show me evidence that we payed 12-17 million for Rodwell as I can't seem to find it?
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Re: Rodwell

Postby london blue 2 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:09 pm

Haha I see a post of the year award coming your way....
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Re: Rodwell

Postby Blue Blood » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:11 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:Can somebody show me evidence that we payed 12-17 million for Rodwell as I can't seem to find it?


Ian Cheeseman said it yesterday and local Liverpool sources had it at 12 rising to 15 too.
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Re: Rodwell

Postby The Italian Job » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:12 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:Can somebody show me evidence that we payed 12-17 million for Rodwell as I can't seem to find it?

The fee was undisclosed & as such there is no real 'evidence'. BBC reckon it was 12 rising to 17, others reckon 15 or what you have. Wouldn't read too much into it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19232773
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Re: Rodwell

Postby bigblue » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:13 pm

GoatersRightShin wrote:Can people not see that if we signed de Rossi, van Persie and Martinez that we'd have about 15 world class players who all believe they should be in the first team. This would lead to squad disruption, players losing confidence and a constant need to keep changing the team even when winning

Last season we had a team that won the league with an unbelievable points total. It was only down to the rags ability to grind out results that we didn't walk the league. We, therefore, dont need to make massive signings.

Mancini is instead looking for good young players who won't expect to be in the first team but will do a job when needed and will improve my training with world class players every day.

In this respect I believe rodwell to be a great signing - yes slightly expensive but that is the inflation that is always going to be associated with city because teams know we have money and will pay unreasonable prices. That's something we will have to live with.


more sense in this post than the first 9 pages of the thread
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Re: Rodwell

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:21 pm

The Italian Job wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:Can somebody show me evidence that we payed 12-17 million for Rodwell as I can't seem to find it?

The fee was undisclosed & as such there is no real 'evidence'. BBC reckon it was 12 rising to 17, others reckon 15 or what you have. Wouldn't read too much into it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19232773

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Beefymcfc wrote:Can somebody show me evidence that we payed 12-17 million for Rodwell as I can't seem to find it?


Ian Cheeseman said it yesterday and local Liverpool sources had it at 12 rising to 15 too.

Cheers fella's. No evidence whatsoever then, just speculation.

I wonder why it was undisclosed?
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Re: Rodwell

Postby Alioune DVToure » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:22 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Alioune DVToure wrote:
Mancio4ever wrote:
@ Mods.
I am genuinely trying my very best to stay away of this Marwood argument since I promised it yesterday.
Unfortunatelly, since that promise, I continue to read posts of people who have serious issue to face the factual reality and/or try to cover their lack of arguments with snobbery.

Now I must even see the ABOVE INFLAMATORY and PROVOCATIVE POST.
I seem to remember that once there was a report button, but now I can see it.

therefore I am formally reporting the post above as deemed to create inimity and ignite the feud, without adding anything factual to the debate.
scrolling up the cronology of the thread You shall find plenty of evidece of the fact that only point that I made throught the whole thread is the quality of the man paid by the Club with the responsability of Sporting Director.
I can have possibly stated that I quite like Rodwell as player, while I certainly used the signing of him as further evidence that the inability of the sporting director to sign any player was not due to the fact that he was upon instuction to save money.

I fully expect respect for my opinion and active moderation, in order to avoid futher polemics.

thanks for attention, assistance and prompt action


Haha!

That was a gag..... right?


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For some reason I'm picturing him typing that post whilst dressed up like this:

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Re: Rodwell

Postby twosips » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:25 pm

Poor Mancio. I really think a lot of the 'british' humour has been lost in translation with him.
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Re: Rodwell

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:32 pm

GoatersRightShin wrote:Can people not see that if we signed de Rossi, van Persie and Martinez that we'd have about 15 world class players who all believe they should be in the first team. This would lead to squad disruption, players losing confidence and a constant need to keep changing the team even when winning

Last season we had a team that won the league with an unbelievable points total. It was only down to the rags ability to grind out results that we didn't walk the league. We, therefore, dont need to make massive signings.

Mancini is instead looking for good young players who won't expect to be in the first team but will do a job when needed and will improve my training with world class players every day.

In this respect I believe rodwell to be a great signing - yes slightly expensive but that is the inflation that is always going to be associated with city because teams know we have money and will pay unreasonable prices. That's something we will have to live with.

That's a very reasoned and sensible post, first one as well. I like you, well done.

Just one question, are you Jack Rodwell?
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Re: Rodwell

Postby Blue Blood » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:49 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
The Italian Job wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:Can somebody show me evidence that we payed 12-17 million for Rodwell as I can't seem to find it?

The fee was undisclosed & as such there is no real 'evidence'. BBC reckon it was 12 rising to 17, others reckon 15 or what you have. Wouldn't read too much into it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19232773

Blue Blood wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:Can somebody show me evidence that we payed 12-17 million for Rodwell as I can't seem to find it?


Ian Cheeseman said it yesterday and local Liverpool sources had it at 12 rising to 15 too.

Cheers fella's. No evidence whatsoever then, just speculation.

I wonder why it was undisclosed?


Evertonians believe it's so Kenwright doesn't get lynched when Moyes gets to spend a fraction of the sum and 90% heads to the banks.
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Re: Rodwell

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:50 pm

Blue Blood wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
The Italian Job wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:Can somebody show me evidence that we payed 12-17 million for Rodwell as I can't seem to find it?

The fee was undisclosed & as such there is no real 'evidence'. BBC reckon it was 12 rising to 17, others reckon 15 or what you have. Wouldn't read too much into it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19232773

Blue Blood wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:Can somebody show me evidence that we payed 12-17 million for Rodwell as I can't seem to find it?


Ian Cheeseman said it yesterday and local Liverpool sources had it at 12 rising to 15 too.

Cheers fella's. No evidence whatsoever then, just speculation.

I wonder why it was undisclosed?


Evertonians believe it's so Kenwright doesn't get lynched when Moyes gets to spend a fraction of the sum and 90% heads to the banks.

Scouse Blue fans know deep down inside that none of it is being spent and it's all going to the bank to pay off the debt.

The reality is that they could've taken a much larger fee a season or two back and now, as a fringe player, he's expendable for the cause. 12 to 17 mil would have been a great take for the club and the fans, like mentioned, would be well happy with it.

So why not state the true figure, Moyes wouldn't blink twice about making out that they've got a great deal. In fact, he'd insist on it.

The silence from him says more than anything the media can make up, especially considering Mancini's and Moyes' touchline bust-up.

Is this deal what it seems, or reported?

Just a thought.
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Re: Rodwell

Postby Sideshow Bob » Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:56 pm

moyes will be gone soon imo, so he may not have had much say in this transfer.
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Re: Rodwell

Postby Beefymcfc » Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:15 pm

Sideshow Bob wrote:moyes will be gone soon imo, so he may not have had much say in this transfer.

That might explain it as well. However, I do think Moyes was hoping to move and getting himself a shot at CL but one thing he wouldn't allow is one of his players going behind his back. He knows what's going on and has total control of his players. If someone moves it is at his price and he'll fight to the end. He has sanctioned this move, he knows where they are and knows where they could've been.
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Re: Rodwell

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:17 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
Sideshow Bob wrote:moyes will be gone soon imo, so he may not have had much say in this transfer.

That might explain it as well. However, I do think Moyes was hoping to move and getting himself a shot at CL but one thing he wouldn't allow is one of his players going behind his back. He knows what's going on and has total control of his players. If someone moves it is at his price and he'll fight to the end. He has sanctioned this move, he knows where they are and knows where they could've been.


The reason Moyes has let this deal go through after fending off Ferguson for all this time, may well be because in addition to the fee he has perhaps been allowed to talk to some City players re loan deals. It may be that, if some other transfers come in, we will see a player or two going to Everton.
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Re: Rodwell

Postby london blue 2 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:19 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
Sideshow Bob wrote:moyes will be gone soon imo, so he may not have had much say in this transfer.

That might explain it as well. However, I do think Moyes was hoping to move and getting himself a shot at CL but one thing he wouldn't allow is one of his players going behind his back. He knows what's going on and has total control of his players. If someone moves it is at his price and he'll fight to the end. He has sanctioned this move, he knows where they are and knows where they could've been.


The reason Moyes has let this deal go through after fending off Ferguson for all this time, may well be because in addition to the fee he has perhaps been allowed to talk to some City players re loan deals. It may be that, if some other transfers come in, we will see a player or two going to Everton.

Apparently AJ is odds on to go there
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