Some helpful advice for bob

[bhfanatic]

with love x

get rid of all the yugoslavians, and the italian manboy. replace them with better players.

and then we'd be a better team.

Buddy, Dzeko's goal against QPR was the reason for City's title.

[bhfanatic]

Balotelli was owned AGAIN by skrtel. He is a much better player and needs to get his shit sorted mentally. Dzeko was a positive move today but the rodwell sub was not

I thought the Rodwell sub allowed Milner to become more effective in forward play, personally. Shame Milner was taken off not too long afterwards- I think he's the player who gets the best out of Dzeko from midfield.

Milner has those one-twos with Dave that are lethal. Those that scored us two goals in the swamp last year, so Bobby's decision was wrong. If you put Mario, Kolarov, Nasri and Milner today, the last one was the only who looked ok and on some situations even Kolarov.

I will get rid of Mario and Savic, for the sake of the thread, but i will not sell big Ed. Yes, his first touch is shit, but he isn't the type to miss much, when has the chance. In that conditions, i won't sel Dzeko to bring Cavani, but this really does mean that Bob needs to start talking to him and show him he cares and take his nose from Mario's arse. Mario won't grow when he is constanly "kissed" by Bobby.

I for instance was very glad with the squad in June, but i am frustrated not because we didn't bought players, i would rather have a youngster than Martinez, but i am gutted because we looked fucking broke.

All those fucks who said we are not united, that the squad, the board, the staff are devided will have a mental blow job from this circus that Bobby and Marwood and Khaldoon and who the fuck knows, gives them. They are delighted seeing the champs having a conflict and our boys are to blind to see that.

Can this thread be over with this post? Very well said mate, was gonna say all this, but u saved me some time...

[bhfanatic]

How can people talk shit about Dzeko when he was there only for 30 minutes, and in these 30 minutes City scored 2 goals. The second goal was due to his pressure that Skrtel passed the ball back.
Overall he has his bad days, but today I would firstly blame RM, then players: Balotelli, NDJ,


Also I thought Kolo did well on the right side.


Cheers

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

i am willing to be disagreed with, but i personally would get rid of kolarov, savic, dzeko and balotelli.

anyone disagree, for anything other than nationalistic reasons?

Kolarov and Savic shouldn't be on this team. Period (or is that three periods).
I like Dzeko as a substitute to change the balance of the game and he has time and time again proven that he is efective in that sort of role. Unfortunately he is not satisfied with that role so to quote the great man himself "if player wants to go then he needs to go. Eeeeezz noormal".
I'm not going to say anything about Balotelli right now. One day (like yesterday) he pisses me right off, other days he seems like second coming of fucking Pele. I just don't know

P.s. Now that I saw your post I suddenly remembered the toothpaste. I'm fucking tosser for forgetting it but I can only offer the excuse that we did some renovating and moved houses so there were about trillion things on my mind. I'll be on it.
P.p.s. While I'm one of the few people who actually like Dzeko and appreciate what he brings to table, people Paulus actually make me want to fucking hate him as well.

[Slim]

i am willing to be disagreed with, but i personally would get rid of kolarov, savic, dzeko and balotelli.

anyone disagree, for anything other than nationalistic reasons?

Kolarov and Savic shouldn't be on this team. Period (or is that three periods).
I like Dzeko as a substitute to change the balance of the game and he has time and time again proven that he is efective in that sort of role. Unfortunately he is not satisfied with that role so to quote the great man himself "if player wants to go then he needs to go. Eeeeezz noormal".
I'm not going to say anything about Balotelli right now. One day (like yesterday) he pisses me right off, other days he seems like second coming of fucking Pele. I just don't know

P.s. Now that I saw your post I suddenly remembered the toothpaste. I'm fucking tosser for forgetting it but I can only offer the excuse that we did some renovating and moved houses so there were about trillion things on my mind. I'll be on it.
P.p.s. While I'm one of the few people who actually like Dzeko and appreciate what he brings to table, people Paulus actually make me want to fucking hate him as well.

I see moments of brilliance from Balotelli, but I am really trying hard to think of a game he has dominated to the extent that someone like tevez has, like Silva has and more recently, like Nasri has. I don't believe it's in him, never have, and it would take a long sequence of very good performances to change my mind. And since when was his first touch as bad as Samaras'? The way it was bouncing off him yesterday you'd think he was a fucking trampoline.

[Arjan Van Schotte]

On your original point, I would agree with Savic (clearly out of his depth) Kolarov (Too much of a headless chicken going forward, and a suspect defender) and also Mario (not because of any lack of ability, just that I don't think his temperament is going to change). As for Dzeko, I seriously don't think we could get better for the type of player he is. He's generally playing in a sysem that doesn't suit him, and getting dropped as soon as he gets a bit of confidence and continuity. I suspect the Sinclair thing is an attempt on Mancini's part to utilise Dzeko more, and the issue with AJ was that he felt AJ should be providing the service Dzeko was bought for. Mancini clearly must have envisiged a role for Dzeko when he bought him, and I'm sure he didn't see him as a no9 in a tika taka set up. So I sort of agree with you in so much as Mancini should play Dzeko in a system that suits him, or get rid and replace him with someone who suits the system Mancini wants to play.

agree with much of that - and i was a little tipsy following yesterday's game, and probably shouldn't have started a thread. however, i was, and am, so frustrated that it has seemed so clear to me that in one way or another, all 4 are not only not good enough, but also easily replaceable (without breaking the bank, indeed, without necessarily a net loss.) and this summer was very much the time to do it. i cringe whenever i see any of those in the first XI.

[s1ty m]

On your original point, I would agree with Savic (clearly out of his depth) Kolarov (Too much of a headless chicken going forward, and a suspect defender) and also Mario (not because of any lack of ability, just that I don't think his temperament is going to change). As for Dzeko, I seriously don't think we could get better for the type of player he is. He's generally playing in a sysem that doesn't suit him, and getting dropped as soon as he gets a bit of confidence and continuity. I suspect the Sinclair thing is an attempt on Mancini's part to utilise Dzeko more, and the issue with AJ was that he felt AJ should be providing the service Dzeko was bought for. Mancini clearly must have envisiged a role for Dzeko when he bought him, and I'm sure he didn't see him as a no9 in a tika taka set up. So I sort of agree with you in so much as Mancini should play Dzeko in a system that suits him, or get rid and replace him with someone who suits the system Mancini wants to play.

agree with much of that - and i was a little tipsy following yesterday's game, and probably shouldn't have started a thread. however, i was, and am, so frustrated that it has seemed so clear to me that in one way or another, all 4 are not only not good enough, but also easily replaceable (without breaking the bank, indeed, without necessarily a net loss.) and this summer was very much the time to do it. i cringe whenever i see any of those in the first XI.

Savic is just not very good at football, I doubt there is much worth arguing about this point. Kolarov is not good at many aspects of the game. OK, he has a shot and can swing in the odd great cross, but the rest is pretty crap. Dzeko, I just don't know. Mario, well I felt stupid after the game as I had wanted him starting, before the team was announced. I'd forgotten how little he offers on his off days and what a bit of a tart he can be.

All said, I thought the tactics were crap. We won the league playing 4-3-3 or 4-3-2-1 or whatever it was, so why do this big tactical switch? I can get it if it is a game-changer, but the start out wi it is not something I can really understand. 3-5-2 is a dubious tactical switch.

[Ted Hughes]

i am willing to be disagreed with, but i personally would get rid of kolarov, savic, dzeko and balotelli.

anyone disagree, for anything other than nationalistic reasons?

Kolarov and Savic shouldn't be on this team. Period (or is that three periods).
I like Dzeko as a substitute to change the balance of the game and he has time and time again proven that he is efective in that sort of role. Unfortunately he is not satisfied with that role so to quote the great man himself "if player wants to go then he needs to go. Eeeeezz noormal".
I'm not going to say anything about Balotelli right now. One day (like yesterday) he pisses me right off, other days he seems like second coming of fucking Pele. I just don't know

P.s. Now that I saw your post I suddenly remembered the toothpaste. I'm fucking tosser for forgetting it but I can only offer the excuse that we did some renovating and moved houses so there were about trillion things on my mind. I'll be on it.
P.p.s. While I'm one of the few people who actually like Dzeko and appreciate what he brings to table, people Paulus actually make me want to fucking hate him as well.

I see moments of brilliance from Balotelli, but I am really trying hard to think of a game he has dominated to the extent that someone like tevez has, like Silva has and more recently, like Nasri has. I don't believe it's in him, never have, and it would take a long sequence of very good performances to change my mind. And since when was his first touch as bad as Samaras'? The way it was bouncing off him yesterday you'd think he was a fucking trampoline.

A bit rusty maybe.

My main problem with Mario is that he doesn't link up with anybody. People feed him, end of story. Unless we are playing one up front (& that's him) he really has to start playing proper one twos etc & doing it quickly, not taking 10 seconds on the ball waiting to be fouled. As soon as Dzeko came on, Tevez had a purpose & played a totally different game.

Perhaps Nasri would also have looked a lot better if Dzeko & not Balotelli had started.

Like I said though; Mario is preobably full of cobwebs at the moment. The workrate was there.

[carl_feedthegoat]

i am willing to be disagreed with, but i personally would get rid of kolarov, savic, dzeko and balotelli.

anyone disagree, for anything other than nationalistic reasons?

Kolarov and Savic shouldn't be on this team. Period (or is that three periods).
I like Dzeko as a substitute to change the balance of the game and he has time and time again proven that he is efective in that sort of role. Unfortunately he is not satisfied with that role so to quote the great man himself "if player wants to go then he needs to go. Eeeeezz noormal".
I'm not going to say anything about Balotelli right now. One day (like yesterday) he pisses me right off, other days he seems like second coming of fucking Pele. I just don't know

P.s. Now that I saw your post I suddenly remembered the toothpaste. I'm fucking tosser for forgetting it but I can only offer the excuse that we did some renovating and moved houses so there were about trillion things on my mind. I'll be on it.
P.p.s. While I'm one of the few people who actually like Dzeko and appreciate what he brings to table, people Paulus actually make me want to fucking hate him as well.

I see moments of brilliance from Balotelli, but I am really trying hard to think of a game he has dominated to the extent that someone like tevez has, like Silva has and more recently, like Nasri has. I don't believe it's in him, never have, and it would take a long sequence of very good performances to change my mind. And since when was his first touch as bad as Samaras'? The way it was bouncing off him yesterday you'd think he was a fucking trampoline.

A bit rusty maybe.

My main problem with Mario is that he doesn't link up with anybody. People feed him, end of story. Unless we are playing one up front (& that's him) he really has to start playing proper one twos etc & doing it quickly, not taking 10 seconds on the ball waiting to be fouled. As soon as Dzeko came on, Tevez had a purpose & played a totally different game.

Perhaps Nasri would also have looked a lot better if Dzeko & not Balotelli had started.

Like I said though; Mario is preobably full of cobwebs at the moment. The workrate was there.

We should have sold him imo...how many times does he do that one touch and it either goes to an oppossing player or he hits it too hard to a city player?.....and how many times does he get dispossessed?

He is pretty fuckign average imo..like has been said above , when was the last time he owned anyone?

[Hazy2]

Both Mario and Bobby cut figures at times of pissed of not happy. Deal with it I am Italian. For me RM needs to be less stroppy. The interview on MCFC was sarci at best, bordering on fuck off, spare me.

[Swales4ever]

Both Mario and Bobby cut figures at times of pissed of not happy. Deal with it I am Italian. For me RM needs to be less stroppy. The interview on MCFC was sarci at best, bordering on fuck off, spare me.

Finally we've found out what's getting wrong at the Club. onwards and upwards from now on.
just need Marwood at helm.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Savic takes another roasting despite him being nowhere near the pitch and Kolo looking very shaky. Remarkable.

Things we learned from the game at Anfield. . . . .
Kolo not good enough. I'd feel safer with the much maligned S.S.
De Jong must be signed up somehow.
Mario should have been sold if we really did get that bid. More trouble than these average performances warrant. In fact 'average' is being very very kind. Dzeko produced more in his short time on the park than Balo the rest of the game.
Nasri is still a shit house French Duke.
Zabs continues to get even better.
Tevez is definitely our best striker by some margin.
We still have the same problems in our team as last season.
Bob is still overly cautious.
Oh and Joe keeps getting beat to his left low down.

[Hazy2]

Both Mario and Bobby cut figures at times of pissed of not happy. Deal with it I am Italian. For me RM needs to be less stroppy. The interview on MCFC was sarci at best, bordering on fuck off, spare me.

Finally we've found out what's getting wrong at the Club. onwards and upwards from now on.
just need Marwood at helm.

Marwood has to balance between the owners and RM, I want Martinez but 40k is huge for him, for me he is norsed by RVP going to the rags, he needs to snap out of it, Mario for me appears to be always starting from zero, in terms of form and his body language, he is class for Italy and for us in fits and starts,Dzeko should have started but in RM I trust, he is the man, all be it stroppy at the mo, whenever interviewed.Maybe David Platt should sent out again.

[Moses]

If he is planning on building a side to accommodate James Milner, them he should resign.

[Arjan Van Schotte]

Savic takes another roasting despite him being nowhere near the pitch and Kolo looking very shaky. Remarkable.

Things we learned from the game at Anfield. . . . .
Kolo not good enough. I'd feel safer with the much maligned S.S.
.

really?

twat.

on the other stuff? possibly. i was blinded by that sentence.

[Swales4ever]

Both Mario and Bobby cut figures at times of pissed of not happy. Deal with it I am Italian. For me RM needs to be less stroppy. The interview on MCFC was sarci at best, bordering on fuck off, spare me.

Finally we've found out what's getting wrong at the Club. onwards and upwards from now on.
just need Marwood at helm.

Marwood has to balance between the owners and RM, I want Martinez but 40k is huge for him, for me he is norsed by RVP going to the rags, he needs to snap out of it, Mario for me appears to be always starting from zero, in terms of form and his body language, he is class for Italy and for us in fits and starts,Dzeko should have started but in RM I trust, he is the man, all be it stroppy at the mo, whenever interviewed.Maybe David Platt should sent out again.

Marwood has to start learning his trade at a League1 Club, then apply to a relegation Club of the Prem a couple of years later and keep dreaming to become the next Jimmy Grimble of Sporting Directors. And even if he was a SD, actually, he didn't have to broke nothing rather than execute what HRH and the Chairman, graciously (I am never forgetting this part) agree with the manager at the usual post season summit (in case of Hazard then, it's bright as sunlight that Khaldoon had given green light on behalf of HRH well before cuz the cunt was at the home derby to agree terms)
Once said that, I am all to back Your stance, Mate: better no spending than spending for the sake of it.
Problem is that once You hit success You MUST have the organization, fullfilled of top profenionalism, to keep it (success) steadly going. market wise, the best a Club become, the hardest turns to improve, that's why, we (the Club) and Khaldoon first, need his instruction to be backed and executed by professionals who know their trade.

sorry, Everyone

[Beefymcfc]

When I have to say 'Sorry' for something I've done usually it means I shouldn't have done it in the first place.

We've still got the team that won the PL last season, minus AJ. This, from a team who hadn't got the team spirit, ethos or experience to do so. We've now moved away from looking at the 'Here and Now' players as we already have them, instead we are looking at the next generation to complement our already excellent squad.

From my thinking, there seems to be a bit of a gap between our youth academy and our 1st team, this is why we aren't seeing enough of them through; Mancini just doesn't trust them, even after them training with the squad for a season and half. That's where the likes of Rodders, Sinclair et al come into play. Players with 1st team experience who have show the quality to possibly make it at the top; but there are no guarantees

I would say that if a top quality player came available that could enhance our squad, we'd be all over it, that includes Marwood, but the truth is that we will not continue to pay the 'City' price that everyone is taking for granted, and rightly so.

Mancini knows the score but at the same time is playing the game. It worked with RVP, how much did he cost United again?

[Swales4ever]

When I have to say 'Sorry' for something I've done usually it means I shouldn't have done it in the first place.

We've still got the team that won the PL last season, minus AJ. This, from a team who hadn't got the team spirit, ethos or experience to do so. We've now moved away from looking at the 'Here and Now' players as we already have them, instead we are looking at the next generation to complement our already excellent squad.

From my thinking, there seems to be a bit of a gap between our youth academy and our 1st team, this is why we aren't seeing enough of them through; Mancini just doesn't trust them, even after them training with the squad for a season and half. That's where the likes of Rodders, Sinclair et al come into play. Players with 1st team experience who have show the quality to possibly make it at the top; but there are no guarantees

I would say that if a top quality player came available that could enhance our squad, we'd be all over it, that includes Marwood, but the truth is that we will not continue to pay the 'City' price that everyone is taking for granted, and rightly so.

Mancini knows the score but at the same time is playing the game. It worked with RVP, how much did he cost United again?

that's an excellent point, Beefy.
I am wondering why since long, cuz the Mancini I knew had always been more than keen to enhance the Youth and give them more than a chance. It seem all ended with Dedrick at the Emirates.
Pressure for success at any cost?
Still I am puzzled on why we should spend money on Sinclairs and Rodwells when we have Suarezs and Razaks/Ibrahims. I tend to blame Bob's balls there.

[phips]

When I have to say 'Sorry' for something I've done usually it means I shouldn't have done it in the first place.

We've still got the team that won the PL last season, minus AJ. This, from a team who hadn't got the team spirit, ethos or experience to do so. We've now moved away from looking at the 'Here and Now' players as we already have them, instead we are looking at the next generation to complement our already excellent squad.

From my thinking, there seems to be a bit of a gap between our youth academy and our 1st team, this is why we aren't seeing enough of them through; Mancini just doesn't trust them, even after them training with the squad for a season and half. That's where the likes of Rodders, Sinclair et al come into play. Players with 1st team experience who have show the quality to possibly make it at the top; but there are no guarantees

I would say that if a top quality player came available that could enhance our squad, we'd be all over it, that includes Marwood, but the truth is that we will not continue to pay the 'City' price that everyone is taking for granted, and rightly so.

Mancini knows the score but at the same time is playing the game. It worked with RVP, how much did he cost United again?

that's an excellent point, Beefy.
I am wondering why since long, cuz the Mancini I knew had always been more than keen to enhance the Youth and give them more than a chance. It seem all ended with Dedrick at the Emirates.
Pressure for success at any cost?
Still I am puzzled on why we should spend money on Sinclairs and Rodwells when we have Suarezs and Razaks/Ibrahims. I tend to blame Bob's balls there.

i dont think Bob will ever play a youth team member in a prem game, let alone from the start.

[Tokyo Blue]

I think he will when he finds someone he believes is good enough to be there on merit, phips.