Honestly... what a window!

[dazby]

Well done Brian.

[Slim]

really pissed off with it TBH, its now 01/09/2012, we made 5 signings yesterday and were rushing to get pen to paper at the last minute, we have had since 13/05/2012..... Its fucking piss poor that we are 3 game sin today and we have 5 new players that will time to bed in, this is what pre-season is for.

^ This - the fact that we were buggering about with Garcia at nearly midnight is pretty shoddy - at least three wont train with us until after the international break and will take a while to bed in - Garcia being of particular concern as he is likely to be key of the five players we signed yesterday. It needs sorting so that our signings get a full pre-season, very poor form, can't help but think these lads weren't on List A.

Went for Martinez, signed Rodwell.
Went for De Rossi, signed Garcia.
Went for Hazard, signed Sinclair.

Also, went for RVP, kept Dzeko.
Went for Thiago Silva, kept Kolo.

Ya think?

[Swales4ever]

btw, great "Inside City Transfert Deadline Special", now online on OS.

[Ted Hughes]

I thought we needed attacking midfield help and cover for centerbacks. We got the latter but couldn't get the former. We were also gathering pieces for 5-3-2 wingback, the system that has been proven poor in world football time and time again.

Overall I thought it was ok in the end.

The backup/alternative to Silva was always likely to be a problem when we missed Hazard imo, that's why I was so absolutely gutted when we didn't sign him; I couldn't see anyone else in world football who we could realistically bring in.

There literally is 'only one David Silva' & of course getting someone of that quality is going to be very very difficult.

But what we have done now is trimmed & balanced the squad where, (depending on the new players settling & being as good as we hope) we have set it all up for Soriano to go all out over the next year to find us the absolute worldbeating player or two that turns us into a Barca level club.

We may not be the finished article from this window but we have put down the foundations so that all our concentration can now go into finding the one or two players who lift us to the very top the tree, without having to worry about all the other bits & pieces.

[Blue2]

really pissed off with it TBH, its now 01/09/2012, we made 5 signings yesterday and were rushing to get pen to paper at the last minute, we have had since 13/05/2012..... Its fucking piss poor that we are 3 game sin today and we have 5 new players that will time to bed in, this is what pre-season is for.

Absolutely spot on, not professional enough. Set you targets, get them im early and work with them in the build up t the new season.

[Moses]

Absolutely spot on, not professional enough. Set you targets, get them im early and work with them in the build up t the new season.

Being idiots now. We could have done exactly what you said, but we are trying to meet FFP. This method possibly saved us £15m, which we can afford, but that's not the issue, meeting FFP is the issue.

[Beefymcfc]

Not bad at all. It was clear from the off that if we were going for a marquee signing then there were only a couple in contention. Hazard ditched at the last minute due to Chelsea's willingness to pay the extended rate and De Rossi was always a long-shot considering his allegiances to Roma (plus personal circumstances).

In eventuallity, what we've done is brought in players to compliment the squad in various positions, allowing players to rest or for cover when certain players are away on international duty. Garcia and Rodwell for midfield, able to take up the position of our ageing central players. Nastasic to cover our CBs, with Kolo, and could be a real player in the future, possibly pushing the likes of Lescott for a full-time berth.

Then there's Sinclair, I player that I really like/liked. A forward thinking midfielder who can get balls into the box, score the occasional goal or just use his trickery to bamboozle opposition teams. He's not quite the finished article but I honestly believe he will do very well learning from the likes of Silva and Nasri.

We finish off with Wright and Maicon, one who will become an ever-present on the sidelines and one who could have a real impact on the team, especially in Europe. Maicon was always seen as one of the best in his position until Bale showed the world how easy it was to get around him. That seemed to spell a change in how players looked at him. At 31 though, I can't see him being a direct replacement for any of our current RBs but maybe deployed in Mancini's new style 3 at the back in a more attacking role, possibly with Sinclair on the other side.

To top it all off, we've shed the fruit that was turning sour in Ade, Nige, Bridge and Cruz (for a season anyway), players who were on big wages and used as loss leaders to get us where we are. These players stopped many others from coming in but now that they have gone it will have a big impact, especially in light of FFPR.

So, for me, not bad at all. We already have an excellent 1st team, with some excellent back-up. Now we've got players who can ensure that if we need them, they can step straight in or, at least, change the game plan, a plan that was sorely missing last season. Some may complain we haven't got the marquee signings that we wanted, I'd debate that we actually don't need them and it was more of the exception rather than the rule.

Come On City!!!

[PeterParker]

Don't know what to say. Gutted we sold Nige, not pleased about Aj and happy because we lost Savic.

About the one's that came in. Garcia and Nastasic we don't know, we have no real idea how they are, Rodwell had two mediocre games so far, with mediocre teams like Southamptoon and Scouse 1. Then we have Maicon, the player with "history" from what we got this summer, but who looks like he was brought to play in a horrible system that Bobby wants to use.

All in all, i think it was a mediocre summer for us, we missed players that Bobby wanted so it will be interesting how this will end up, how this season will be for us.

But two things i can say about this transfer window:

1) We can't buy every summer the best players out there, no one ever did. Not Madrid, not Barcelona or Chelsea. There will be summers like this, when things will go not as we were expecting.

2) Looked at the video on the site, the Incide City last episod and i saw Garcia. The lad looks like a genuine nice bloke, very very happy to be here and modest.

[Ted Hughes]

really pissed off with it TBH, its now 01/09/2012, we made 5 signings yesterday and were rushing to get pen to paper at the last minute, we have had since 13/05/2012..... Its fucking piss poor that we are 3 game sin today and we have 5 new players that will time to bed in, this is what pre-season is for.

Absolutely spot on, not professional enough. Set you targets, get them im early and work with them in the build up t the new season.

It has been made abundantly clear why this is the case. Mancini said it again yesterday.

You may be willing to chuck any amount of money at the problem but the club are not. If we were, we would have signed Hazard & RVP & been ripped off. We weren't so we didn't get them. It's not your money & it IS money which is the main factor here.

We are trying to change the fact that clubs & agents think they can tax us for players. We don't mind paying a bit over the odds but we are setting limits to it. This is the situation & there is no point in going on about it.

It's not professional to pay 50% more than you think a player is worth, it's amateurish or desperate.

[Bianchi on Ice]

...and it is to be hoped any future sales do not leave the clubs fingers burned...ie if next summer mancini finally gives up on balotelli its difficult to see City recouping anywhere near the outlay...and for younger players this cannot go on indefinately...because the market is shrinking no doubt...very few clubs out there willing to compensate the club for errors made signing players.

[Blue2]

really pissed off with it TBH, its now 01/09/2012, we made 5 signings yesterday and were rushing to get pen to paper at the last minute, we have had since 13/05/2012..... Its fucking piss poor that we are 3 game sin today and we have 5 new players that will time to bed in, this is what pre-season is for.

Absolutely spot on, not professional enough. Set you targets, get them im early and work with them in the build up t the new season.

It has been made abundantly clear why this is the case. Mancini said it again yesterday.

You may be willing to chuck any amount of money at the problem but the club are not. If we were, we would have signed Hazard & RVP & been ripped off. We weren't so we didn't get them. It's not your money & it IS money which is the main factor here.

We are trying to change the fact that clubs & agents think they can tax us for players. We don't mind paying a bit over the odds but we are setting limits to it. This is the situation & there is no point in going on about it.

It's not professional to pay 50% more than you think a player is worth, it's amateurish or desperate.

and a mad scramble on deadline day to sign 5 players isnt amateurish & desperate?

I understand what you say, but dont think Chelsea got ripped off with Hazard looking at his performances so far.

[Ted Hughes]

really pissed off with it TBH, its now 01/09/2012, we made 5 signings yesterday and were rushing to get pen to paper at the last minute, we have had since 13/05/2012..... Its fucking piss poor that we are 3 game sin today and we have 5 new players that will time to bed in, this is what pre-season is for.

Absolutely spot on, not professional enough. Set you targets, get them im early and work with them in the build up t the new season.

It has been made abundantly clear why this is the case. Mancini said it again yesterday.

You may be willing to chuck any amount of money at the problem but the club are not. If we were, we would have signed Hazard & RVP & been ripped off. We weren't so we didn't get them. It's not your money & it IS money which is the main factor here.

We are trying to change the fact that clubs & agents think they can tax us for players. We don't mind paying a bit over the odds but we are setting limits to it. This is the situation & there is no point in going on about it.

It's not professional to pay 50% more than you think a player is worth, it's amateurish or desperate.

and a mad scramble on deadline day to sign 5 players isnt amateurish & desperate?

I understand what you say, but dont think Chelsea got ripped off with Hazard looking at his performances so far.

No, it's a case of trying to do the big deals such as DeRossi for as long as possible then, when it became apparent it wasn't going to happen, moving to plan B & using the budget elsewhere. Absolutely brilliantly done.

[Dronny]

It was alluded to in the Saturday b*ll*x but what was cute, apart from Rodders, is that our petro $ didn't go to strengthen any of our Prem rivals. Granted we are now a European player but again the money these teams received was too late for them to utilise and lets face it Fiorentina and Benfica shouldn't (fingers crossed) cause too many headaches for our team.

As frustrating as it was perceived for Mancini, Marwood and the fans this window represents good value and from Twatini's perspective the FFP light will be shining more brightly on Chavski and PSG.

[Swales4ever]

really pissed off with it TBH, its now 01/09/2012, we made 5 signings yesterday and were rushing to get pen to paper at the last minute, we have had since 13/05/2012..... Its fucking piss poor that we are 3 game sin today and we have 5 new players that will time to bed in, this is what pre-season is for.

Absolutely spot on, not professional enough. Set you targets, get them im early and work with them in the build up t the new season.

It has been made abundantly clear why this is the case. Mancini said it again yesterday.

You may be willing to chuck any amount of money at the problem but the club are not. If we were, we would have signed Hazard & RVP & been ripped off. We weren't so we didn't get them. It's not your money & it IS money which is the main factor here.

We are trying to change the fact that clubs & agents think they can tax us for players. We don't mind paying a bit over the odds but we are setting limits to it. This is the situation & there is no point in going on about it.

[highlight]It's not professional to pay 50% more than you think a player is worth, it's amateurish or desperate.[/highlight]

and a mad scramble on deadline day to sign 5 players isnt amateurish & desperate?

I understand what you say, but dont think Chelsea got ripped off with Hazard looking at his performances so far.

No, it's a case of trying to do the big deals such as DeRossi for as long as possible then, when it became apparent it wasn't going to happen, moving to plan B & using the budget elsewhere. Absolutely brilliantly done.

Ted, my friend. Utterly respected.
I ve just made an oath and I fully intend to comply with.[highlight]please do not invite me to sin![/highlight]
perhaps You may help to recall who's the wise man who first acknowledged the U-turn in effectiveness drawn by Soriano....

also I tried with my limits to make a mediation call to common good sense for the sake of stability and friendship among Mates who aim the same direction. it may sound a little patronizing, but it's not wanted.
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[mcfc1632]

really pissed off with it TBH, its now 01/09/2012, we made 5 signings yesterday and were rushing to get pen to paper at the last minute, we have had since 13/05/2012..... Its fucking piss poor that we are 3 game sin today and we have 5 new players that will time to bed in, this is what pre-season is for.

Absolutely spot on, not professional enough. Set you targets, get them im early and work with them in the build up t the new season.

Do not want to sound critical but I do think that these views are reflecting some rather simplistic and ideal world which unfortunately we do not live in - certainly the PL is not part of any such world.

Yes - everyone would want to set targets and get them in early etc - frankly a statement of the fucking obvious

Equally nobody connected with City would wish for these FFP rules to have been brought in and also

Everybody connected with City would (should) applaud the club taking robust action to signal to the transfer market and in particular some cuntish individuals that we are not any longer going to be some desperate organisation to be fucked about and milked - difficult message to get across after years of giving an opposite message and also

Everybody connected with City would want rid of the deadwood - pretty good outcome I would suggest and also

Everybody connected with City would (should) wish the fans to be careful of becoming poor imitations of those scum fuckers and the Cehlski set - arrogantly thinking that all players should come to us just because we want them and bithcing like little girls when someting falls through just because we have decided upon our buying principles/parameters and refuse to do more bending over

I for one was pleased to hear the view that we got Garcia for £9m less than his recognised value - that is worth some inconvenience - similar with others. Also of course the Garcia / De Jong deals had to have some level of mutual commitment / timing.

I am delighted at the way our club have (in a single window) made a big statement about no longer being a bunch of desperate and spoilt pussies - we fans should man up as well perhaps

These comments are general and not aimed at any poster - just think that we need to think a bit more strategically than just acting like this is just some fantasy football activity

As someone that thinks the FFP will have real teeth (obviously Khaldoon does as well IMO) I am pleased to see the club act in such a fashion

[ant london]

Don't disagree with the sentiments or the logic but I will be interested to see if our friend retains his player acquisition role under the new boss and whether...if someone else is brought into that role....we are doing over 80% of our incoming business on deadline day in January.

[Swales4ever]

I tell You what: until stirring shite and twisting reality won't stop, this polemic will never end.

It's pathetic behion ludicrous, twice the more of the "Sparky's sacked ruthlessly" and very much close to "Steve Ireland will come back wearing a Top Club' kit to bite our arse "

I'm trying hard, but night is dark and day is bright...

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[Blue Since 76]

There is clearly an issue with deadline day being after the season starts but there's nothing we can do about that. Most of the deals, not just ours, involve one in and one out - would we have bought Sinclair if we couldn't get rid of AJ and would Swansea have sold him without Hernandez lined up?

As for the time taken, well I could have signed Sinclair two weeks earlier than the club managed. I'd have just offered Swansea £8m cash up front. Not sure that would be a sensible approach though and certainly not sustainable. Next summer, teams will realise we're no different than anyone else and will stop asking for daft fees.

[Blue Since 76]

and a mad scramble on deadline day to sign 5 players isnt amateurish & desperate?

I understand what you say, but dont think Chelsea got ripped off with Hazard looking at his performances so far.

Did Hazard look worth the money last night? Shouldn't judge him on one game or on three in the premier league against easier opposition. If he does it all season, fair enough, but let's not start saying the club made a mistake by refusing to pay a ridiculous fee for such a young player after three games.

[Ted Hughes]

Don't disagree with the sentiments or the logic but I will be interested to see if our friend retains his player acquisition role under the new boss and whether...if someone else is brought into that role....we are doing over 80% of our incoming business on deadline day in January.

They set up these deals for weeks, even months & in some cases years though. Jovetic for instance has appeared on the radar; we were scouting him when John wardle was here. The deciding factor is at what point do you stop chasing the likes of DeRossi ? It's a cae of whether you think the clubs will bottle it & give in when the window arrives. We were talking to Garcia last weekend but Mancini openly said we still had hope for DeRossi. at the time, Benfica said there was no way he would go for anything less than his release clause of 20 odd mil. He did.

Marwood's mob will also have had 2 or 3 more backup targets they were talking to as well as Garcia. M'Villa probably being one.

As I said the other day, an article in The National (owned by our people) says Soriano will have complete control over all transfers & related business, wages, everything. Imo, he will have been involved in these deals we have just done.