chance conversion

[The Italian Job]

Why would we do that?

[stevefromdonny]

i think that we should start shooting, by this i mean that we should stop trying to walk the ball into the goal, how many times did we have a goal chance and for some reason the player with the ball passes then have a go at scoring, i will never have a go at a player having the balls to have a shot, but when player decides to pass because he hasnt got the balls to have a shot, thats when i scream at said player

[Slim]

Why would we do that?

Well you wouldn't, but let's see this from another point of view. If Balotelli took all six of the penalties they scored between them and only 7 goals outside of that, would you still say it doesn't count? How about if ALL 13 of his goals were penalties, would you still say it wouldn't count? Would he still be the best finisher because a stat site said so?

Or another point of view. How about if he took 1 shot all year, got 1 goal...he'd have 100% record, does that make him the best finisher?

Answer the questions honestly and I think you will see the point I am driving at.

[The Italian Job]

I know what you're getting at, but what the stats show is that he can't be that bad a finisher. He may not be better than Aguero & Tevez, but he's not far off. That much I can see with my own eyes without looking at the numbers.

Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool... all would kill for a player with his finishing ability. And he's only 3rd/4th choice here.

[Swales4ever]

Why would we do that?

Well you wouldn't, but let's see this from another point of view. If Balotelli took all six of the penalties they scored between them and only 7 goals outside of that, would you still say it doesn't count? How about if ALL 13 of his goals were penalties, would you still say it wouldn't count? Would he still be the best finisher because a stat site said so?

Or another point of view. How about if he took 1 shot all year, got 1 goal...he'd have 100% record, does that make him the best finisher?

Answer the questions honestly and I think you will see the point I am driving at.

In fact, if we deduct penalty from Mario convesion ratio, it would endorse the original point even further.
the conversion ratio IS still THE ISSUE for us to step further.

[Slim]

I know what you're getting at, but what the stats show is that he can't be that bad a finisher. He may not be better than Aguero & Tevez, but he's not far off. That much I can see with my own eyes without looking at the numbers.

Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool... all would kill for a player with his finishing ability. And he's only 3rd/4th choice here.

I never said he was bad, I said Tevez and Aguero were better than....well played sir, well played.

[bhfanatic]

fucking awful.

ours is probably 10/15%

opponents is 50%

need to be more fucking ruthless in front of goal

THIS. If we had Falcao we would score about 10 a game :)

If you had Falcao, and 20 other players... right? Your mentality will lead city players to have 0% of team chemistry. You can't just BUY BUY new players as soon as they score 3 goals against Chelsea or do well for couple of seasons. Dzeko did the same in Bundesliga and I'm sure many have said similar things to your post. Remember that football is a team game.

[Slim]

fucking awful.

ours is probably 10/15%

opponents is 50%

need to be more fucking ruthless in front of goal

THIS. If we had Falcao we would score about 10 a game :)

If you had Falcao, and 20 other players... right? Your mentality will lead city players to have 0% of chemistry. You can't just BUY BUY new players as soon as they score 3 goals to Chelsea or do well for couple of seasons. Dzeko did the same for Bundesliga and I'm sure many have said similar things to your post. Remember that football is a team game.

Yes, and thank you for pointing it out. We all thought it was a canoe race.

[brite blu sky]

It is worthwhile adding to this, that it is early days in the season, although we had a terrific start to last season the conversion rate was still low.. we created so many chances it was unbelievable, but still only 3 or 4 were going in the net.

By the second half of the season we were creating far fewer chances, even struggling in quite a few games, yet the conversion rate then went right up.

I think that fits with early season players being that bit less accurate, 7 games or so in they get more lethal.

I dont think it matters at all. You have to look at the type of game with the stats. Loads of chances v Bus Parkers.. but few getting through the packed defences. Less chances v stand up and fight teams but the chances more likely to go in as they are counters or more balanced play.

It is quite a good example of the limit of stats without any observation, an age old argument.. eh Ted!

[frozen_pea]

Last season we had more chances than any other club (526 shots in total) and a shot conversion rate of 17.7%, second only to the rags (18.9%).
So a high (in context of the rest of premier league teams) conversion rate and the highest shot count = winning league on goal difference.

I don't think it's too much to worry about. We need to be solid at the back.
The good thing is we are still overwhelming our opponents and creating chances. Almost the mentality of Keegan that we will outscore any opponent.

The article I got the figures from is about Van Persie, but looks at last seasons stats
http://www1.skysports.com/news/11096/8031033/

[ruralblue]

i think that we should start shooting, by this i mean that we should stop trying to walk the ball into the goal, how many times did we have a goal chance and for some reason the player with the ball passes then have a go at scoring, i will never have a go at a player having the balls to have a shot, but when player decides to pass because he hasnt got the balls to have a shot, thats when i scream at said player

^this^

again on Saturday there was a pass from silva where if he had just pulled the trigger he would easily have scored. HOwever in fairness he took a good clue of shots which were blocked. Many times last season we seemed to want to walk the ball in when a shot might have just gone in the net.

It WILL come good¡¡¡

[ant london]

and if not....Marwood OUT...(sorry, that one was just for old time's sake)